[M][T] Foundation Mafia

On February 28 2014 06:28 Mattchew wrote:
killing will be fine in this game

On March 04 2014 09:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
I expect exactly what's happening from all the players who have posted regardless of their alignment, barring players I may not have played with before. Robik are you always so eager to get right into the game immediately?

On March 04 2014 11:28 boonetown wrote:
Hey guys! sorry I got here late, I see we've decided to let RNGsus pick our lynch. I want/ed to play with VE, so I'm going to just wait before jumping on the bandwagon if that's alright with you guys.

On March 04 2014 12:31 Killing wrote:


That's funny cause I'm reading you quite scummy atm tbh.

On March 04 2014 12:45 austinmcc wrote:
Can you be specific with 1-2 of your reads?

On March 04 2014 13:33 austinmcc wrote:
kk, that's more clear. Do you weigh boone not wanting to vote VE, in and of itself, as pointing towards her alignment? (her, yes?). Even if it's outweighed by the contradiction with liking RNG, does the no vote itself do anything for you?

Also. Are you robik?

On March 04 2014 13:40 Killing wrote:


Fuck that. We find the scum while they're sleeping lol

On March 04 2014 18:06 Oatsmaster wrote:
I got shot in my newbie game
Hey i was gonna point out the GGtemp shit.
Wtf palmar.

On March 05 2014 03:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
No thats not a good reason, try again.

On March 04 2014 22:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Let's talk about it after robik answers me okay?
I think Dandel is town what do you think?

On March 04 2014 22:11 Palmar wrote:

I don't think this is alignment indicative at all for Dandel, he's providing an opinion on methodology which is one of the easiest things to do as scum. I'm not saying it makes him scum because town players also have opinions, I just don't think you can read much into it one way or the other.

On March 05 2014 03:16 austinmcc wrote:
Please show me, on this doll, where Robik explained his reads and touched you

On March 05 2014 03:18 Dandel Ion wrote:

Well then good thing your opinion doesn't mean jack shit, eh?

On March 05 2014 02:37 Dandel Ion wrote:
maybe boone mistook the scum QT for the foundation QT

it's possible lol

If not that, then she most likely did not out both her teammates.

On March 05 2014 03:43 Oatsmaster wrote:

I did it too.

On March 05 2014 03:46 IAmRobik wrote:

I'm not so certain booner is maf anymore. The push on her is way too strong unless EVERYONE decided to bus all at once. My case on her wasn't all that strong to be honest, as someone pointed out, and EVERYONE jumped on it like flies on shit, white on rice, fat kids on cake, etc.

The funny thing is, I think the first person to jump on it is dandelion and now he's pushing for her lynch the hardest based off of the QT claim. I think it's super silly and a super easy thing to push and right now, as he's atop my scum list, I think Boone would be a mislynch.

On March 05 2014 03:53 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm town too Robik you little shit.

On March 05 2014 04:02 VisceraEyes wrote:
It's an RNG thing. Palmar and I are of a like mind with regard to RNG and I wanted Palmar to know that I'm town this game. It didn't quite work out the way I'd hoped, but at the very least the extra vote on me made the RNG lynch a topic people couldn't ignore.

On March 05 2014 04:03 Dandel Ion wrote:

well far be it from me to discourage people from playing in unneccesarily-hard-mode

On March 05 2014 04:19 VisceraEyes wrote:
You guys need to seriously stop going at each other. If you're both town then this is getting us literally nowhere. If one of you is scum then whichever of you is town is doing yourself a disservice by continuing to shit up the thread going at each other...it makes you look just as bad as the scum you think you've found.

On March 05 2014 05:20 boonetown wrote:
I retract my previous statement about Austin leaning town. Based on what just happened in QT, he'll probably flip mafia.

On March 04 2014 19:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Yeah that's mainly why i asked. I can now see better what you were most likely thinking because i didn't find many incoherent people, especially because i like Oats and Slam this game. Oats had a really good point on Austin imo.

We lynch Grackaroni if he decides to troll, no fucking trolling because when he tries to play he is actually good or readable if he is mafia.

I am looking forward to robik/boone/killing interactions, i WOULD think they can read each other to some extent, and rob seems to be doing a good job there (also might add GGtemplar here). Rob however knows how he played in the last game so i would not draw any definite conclusions about it yet. I wanna see how that all unfolds.

justanothertownie is decent. Also posts a decent amount as either alignment and i think he is quite readable. I'd put him into same category as non-troll!Grack.

Dandel we just figure out if he is scum or town and kill him if he is scum.

On March 05 2014 14:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I think you mean this:

right?

On March 05 2014 19:04 Palmar wrote:
Meh.

I still think we should lynch boone. The QT makes her look a tiny bit better, but tbh I also have this nagging feeling that she outed the QT as a desperation move.

And then there's the point I made earlier on how much she's doing statements instead of conversations.

On March 06 2014 02:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:

I dunno, what makes you think he is defending you rather than templar?

On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone

I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify

On March 06 2014 02:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Okay why do you think he does not bring up Dandel who has actually shat on you?

On March 06 2014 04:27 VisceraEyes wrote:
GGTemp retract your scumread of me or I shoot you tonight.

On March 06 2014 04:29 Dandel Ion wrote:
Retract your scumread on me or I'll actually shoot you instead of robik like I planned to.

On March 06 2014 05:30 Grackaroni wrote:
Mafia (especially newer players) aren't so blatant like that and they are scared as shit of saying something like "I was just making up bullshit"

On March 06 2014 07:07 austinmcc wrote:
Robik, if you believe Killing is ... curious/mafia, and my case or posts on him is/are good, then why vote DI, who is not getting lynched today?

On March 06 2014 07:19 justanothertownie wrote:

Well, do you care about winning?

On March 06 2014 07:23 justanothertownie wrote:

Carry on. I misread your post. Giving reasoning instead of just snipe voting would still be dope though. This game revolves around teamplay/convincing people and not around being right.

On March 06 2014 07:29 austinmcc wrote:
JAT, previously you seemed scummy on Killing but you didn't want to vote him because scary meanies were voting him.

Do you still hold to that? Are his voters scary meanies?



Also since that time, he has returned to the thread. Does his return to the thread make you feel warm and happy like it does for Boone? If yes, what parts. If no, do they make you feel he is scummier?

On March 06 2014 07:37 VisceraEyes wrote:
Jerks.

On March 06 2014 07:43 IAmRobik wrote:
Joey was _NOT_ making up his reads. Stop it.

On March 06 2014 07:54 Dandel Ion wrote:

I'll believe it when I see it.

For the record, since nights are silence, if you're not lynched I'm so shooting you dead.
Or maybe Robik.
idc you're both scum it shouldn't matter too much.

On March 06 2014 07:58 justanothertownie wrote:
##unvote
##vote Killing
Fuck it.

On March 07 2014 08:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
IAmRobik can you explain this:

That's not what it looked like at the end of D1 based on your posts.

On March 07 2014 11:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So basically you said "Killing is mafia because it's possible that boone is mafia aswell" and that somehow made VE super bad lynch? wtf? And you don't say any of this on D1, only AFTER the lynch?

On March 07 2014 11:37 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Rob, did JAT's thoughts in the QT change your read at all of Dandelion?

On March 07 2014 11:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And why the fuck you keep calling me out for "going after easy lynches" because you are super good player and obviously you can read me so well in your opinion, so you can't possibly be an easy lynch.

Can you make some real arguments if you think i am mafia?

justanothertowniePerson was signed in when posted
03-06-2014
03:42 PM ET (US)


Oh god this austin case... Much WIFOM.

GGTeMpLaR
03-06-2014
03:05 PM ET (US)
yea you make a good point actually..

if Dandel is mafia he can leave his vote on me and not get suspicion for hammering VE.

On March 07 2014 23:36 Dandel Ion wrote:
So you're only not tunneling me because people would call you out on it

That speaks volumes about your priorities.

On March 07 2014 23:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
He's straight up admitted that he doesn't even try to find out whether people are town or mafia.

At this point even unconvinced people should policy-lynch him just based on that.

On March 07 2014 23:38 Dandel Ion wrote:
He's straight up admitted that he doesn't even try to find out whether people are town or mafia.

At this point even unconvinced people should policy-lynch him just based on that.

On March 07 2014 21:39 Dandel Ion wrote:
Robik is scum and by far the best lynch today.

• Only goes after easy targets
  
  This is not a case against me and it's bullshit. I brought up a case against Dandelion and Joey yesterday. I don't think I brought up much of a case against anyone else. Obviously Dandelion is an "easy target" because he can't really defend himself cause he hasn't done shit all game besides troll and call me out. Joey isn't an easy target at all and I pointed out many things that were incongruent in what he said
  
  
• Tries to shift blame for the day1 mislynch like a boss just because the mislynch he was on didn't get through (just look at what he said about the VE lynch yesterday in comparison to what he's saying today)
  
  The only thing I know right now is that you and Palmar caused a mislynch. I don't know Joey's role for sure, but I know that my rationale for voting Joey and my reasoning behind it was infinitely better than either of the reasons that Dandelion (no reason) and Palmar (well, i think he would have defended himself better as town) gave.
  
  
• His reads are clearly fake because they don't change naturally like they would if he was town
  
  my reads are 100% genuine and have changed multiple times especially with regards to Boone and Templar, the two people that I know best.
  
  
• They also are only made to fit the 'conclusions' he's trying to push, he decided what his conclusio is first and then posts things that support it ignoring everything that doesn't.

this is bullshit nonsense that doesn't mean or say anything. If he's saying that I'm fitting my conclusion about yesterday's lynch being bad...WELL NO FUCKING SHIT, VE FLIPPED TOWN. You know what I didn't do. I DIDN'T FUCKING VOTE VE. You know what I know this game. THAT VE WAS FUCKING TOWN. I don't know Joey's alignment, but I do know that VE is town and I voted the opposite of that.

Because bitches love this shit I'm even gonna give you a prime example:

I'm extraordinarily scummy for changing my vote last minute.
However, I would also have been extraordinarily scummy for not changing my vote.

ANOTHER PRIME EXAMPLE OF HOW DANDELION'S CASE AGAINST ME IS BULLSHIT. HE SAYS I DON'T CHANGE MY OPINION ON THINGS...BUT I FUCKING DO. I don't have perfect information, so I'm analyzing things from both perspectives and trying to draw a fucking conclusion based off of the information that I have

What does that mean? That Robik doesn't think about the game. He's decided to act like he's decided I'm mafia, so now everything ever in the whole world has to mean I'm mafia. Ignoring the fact that I'm confirmed town times 20.

He does the same thing to Killing. Just yells mafia, not even trying to figure out whether that's true or not.

vote et al

On March 07 2014 23:59 Palmar wrote:

I want to hear this too. this emotional outburst is not helping you.

On March 08 2014 00:45 Palmar wrote:
Yeah you need to calm down dude. I almost want to lynch you on policy for raging like that, as it's very easy to fake as mafia (ie, it's not alignment indicative).

But whatever, we're behind, stop responding to dandel and make some smart cases then.

On March 08 2014 00:48 Palmar wrote:
And you probably should take a step off from your high horse. If you're losing arguments against people you label "trolls", maybe you're terrible at arguing, and tailoring your arguments to your audience.

If town is a bit dumb, you make the arguments that fit that town, you wouldn't explain shit in the same way to a class of playschool kids as you would to a group of university students. It's YOUR job to get your point through.

On March 05 2014 03:08 austinmcc wrote:
I dislike Palmar. I think the way he deals with GGTemplar's unexplained reads, Robik's unexplained semi-reads into explanation, and my questioning of Robik is...inconsistent.

GGTemplar needs to explain himself, sayeth the Palmar.
Robik gives reads but doesn't explain himself.

austinmcc asks Robik to explain a read or two, and give them specifically.

Robik gives an explanation.

Robik's explanation is townie, sayeth the Palmar (agree). But the Palmar forgetteth that Robik initially posts nothing specific, and that I'm the one to question him about it. While he may not like my followup, i would PRESUME that asking people to explain their reads, is, at the very least, a somewhat green thing to do (see Palmar, who would like to look green as either alignment, asking GGTemplar to explain himself).

I do not understand how Palmar reaches his reads on the three of us given Robik's initial post and my question.

On March 08 2014 01:04 justanothertownie wrote:

This is exactly the point dandel and rayn made. You are basing everything on the VE lynch being scummy/shitty while yesterday you were saying you would like the lynch to be between VE/Killing.

On March 08 2014 01:06 justanothertownie wrote:

Well, do you think Palmar is an idiot? Because if he is not then he knew that his policy would not go through.

On March 08 2014 01:00 justanothertownie wrote:

Well then you know where the problem lies. No need to rage if you don't want to do what's necessary.

On March 05 2014 07:42 austinmcc wrote:
Gurrently, I gind of gike

Grackaroni
Goonetown

I gant to gee gore from Gaynpelikoneet. I gislike the gidea of goth my QT buddies being scum, based on nothing but me making up suppositions.


For those who have played with Boonetown, any thoughts on how she responds to pressure/frustration? Is she a tooth and nail fighter or more apt to just fold? (As either/both alignment)

On March 08 2014 01:11 justanothertownie wrote:

You are either really really biased or intentionally one dimensional. We don't know if Killing is scum so we don't know if your choice was in fact the better one.

On March 08 2014 01:19 Dandel Ion wrote:
My logic is great and you didn't even respond to it.

Hint: Yelling as loudly as possible is not logic, it's just noise.

On March 08 2014 01:26 Dandel Ion wrote:
Same goes for you, but in contrast to you I'm town and I know I still have to read them anyway.

The only thing you said in response was NO NO NO NO NO BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT BULLSHIT and that's literally the extent of it.
I don't know which hole you climbed out of where that counts as super-great logic. But then again, you're just scum that doesn't know how else to "defend" himself.

On March 08 2014 01:36 justanothertownie wrote:

You don't get to decide that friend.

On February 28 2014 05:17 Killing wrote:


I've played 400+ games of epic mafia and 100+ games of video mafia but this will be my first forum game.

On March 08 2014 02:24 Killing wrote:
Whenever someone says, "Oh well I'll do X" in text mafia. I insta hammer that shit. It's such flipty floppy garbage where scum is completely fine with either route because they either don't want to look bad or both outcomes are good for town.

On March 08 2014 02:42 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But i gotta tell you if you are town it's extremely unhelpful and distracting and i WILL policy lynch for it.

On March 08 2014 02:45 Killing wrote:


If you think that EM is anything like forum mafia, then you're dummer than I thought.

On March 08 2014 02:45 Killing wrote:
If you think that EM is anything like forum mafia, then you're dummer than I thought.

On March 08 2014 03:02 Oatsmaster wrote:

game continues without the distraction of your fight with dandel.

On March 08 2014 03:11 raynpelikoneet wrote:
yes

On March 08 2014 03:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are wasting everyone's time with your personal vendetta with Dandel. Clearly what you have put up so far is not conclusive enough to convince everyone so either make a new case with new info or go push someone else.

On March 08 2014 03:16 Oatsmaster wrote:
You are wasting everyone's time with your personal vendetta with Dandel. Clearly what you have put up so far is not conclusive enough to convince everyone so either make a new case with new info or go push someone else.

On March 08 2014 03:22 Oatsmaster wrote:

no, the reason today became about you and Dandel is because _you_ decided that you had to fight head on with him.
Why does it matter that he sucks at reading you?

On March 08 2014 04:13 Oatsmaster wrote:

well yeah that kinda makes him scummier cause he wants to win more as scum than as town.

On March 08 2014 04:18 boonetown wrote:
so, if vigi shot austin, or someone that is alive, they should out it so that people can get off my ass. also, we would have another confirmed town in the vigi.

now that i think about it, what would mafia shoot austin, purely to dodge a medic save?

On March 08 2014 05:12 justanothertownie wrote:

This guy is either the most stubborn and confrontational scumplayer I have seen to date or town. Dude, you know that you will get in an even worse fight with rayn for this read on him?

On March 08 2014 05:20 justanothertownie wrote:

Didn't want to criticize you this time. Read carefully.

On March 04 2014 08:09 IAmRobik wrote:
Soooo, we're lynching Alakaslam and Grack. Rayn knows why.

Palmar top town

On March 08 2014 02:24 Killing wrote:
Alright after going over the game again. I'm probably the person with the most information in the entire game since I know that I'm town. Due to this, I'm the only one that knows that the flip at the end of the day was from a town to a town ( me to VE ). I think the only advantages that scum has to switching a vote at the last second from a town to another town is to possibly get a role but I don't think VE was softing anything anyways.



1) Rob



I think Rob probably looks the scummiest to me for right now. He said that at the end of the day he was just going to snipe someone and kill them and that it was "ok because i'm town". First off, I hate it whenever someone prefaces an action with IDGAF because I'm town. That's bad for town to begin with because no one knows that and it can bring suspicion onto you. BUT he never actually tries to snipe me.

@Page 67

I am snipable. He can literally change his vote to me and make me the new lynch target. He is confirmed reading the game and posting but still has his vote on DI. So although he stated before that he was just gonna snipe someone and the oppurtunity to switch the lynch onto me HE DOESN'T. He fucking just waits there till his vote becomes irrelevant. He ends up voting after JAT creating a tie, I believe but before that he could have swapped it onto me and made me the target.





Instantly after the day begins, he says that killing VE was SO BAD even though he never states anything about it after the post quoted above. I honestly believe that he was never gonna snipe me (since I'd flip town and it'd look bad) and that he just case an irrelevant vote on me so that when VE would die, he would look good for having voted me and not voted VE. If VE was such a bad lynch and he held the hammer at the point on Page 67 where Palmar votes VE, WHY DIDN'T HE FUCKING SNIPE ME LIKE HE SAID HE WOULD.





This post is so fucked up. It's worse than my other one. He must have been drunk or something. How does voting against me hedge your bets? Coming from a "town" who said earlier, IDGAF I'M GONNA SNIPE SOMEONE. That's not a person that plays it safe and hedges bets. Also I've read the paragraph like 3 or 4 times and I'm still fucking confused. What were you doing? Cancelling out her vote? Like what in the literal fuck is that?

Just a quick note on Rob. In video mafia, you can call him a donkey, an idiot or even mafia but that will NEVER influence his read. In the previous pages, he's starting to OMGUS just about everyone or trying to seem super paranoid (not sure if the best word to use here). I've never ever seen start getting into shit with other people just cause they FOS him. Usually he'll just tell them to stfu and to not lynch but he won't all of sudden start reading them scummy.

2) Grackaroni

As I said before, I'm in an interesting position since I'm the only one that knows the vote was switched from a town to a town. Grackaroni's interactions with me were super fucking weird and I honestly felt like he was trying to implement some sort of terrible pocketing strategy.







Bang! Just like that, I'm not mafia. I'm strongly suspicious that Grackaroni thought I was a super weak player that he could easily sweep in and pocket for the coming days. Considering he was one of the first ( along with boone ) to come to my rescue, I think he thought I'd be in his pocket for the rest of the game. I mean, Why save a drowning low hanging fruit? I think that coupled with his lack of content, makes him a prime suspect for me.







Whenever someone says, "Oh well I'll do X" in text mafia. I insta hammer that shit. It's such flipty floppy garbage where scum is completely fine with either route because they either don't want to look bad or both outcomes are good for town. If you filter grackaroni, there's literally no OC, just a bunch of BWing or fluff. I think this case is weaker than the one against Rob but I think his lack of content and just general BWing makes him an equally viable lynch.

I'm still forming ideas on the other 2 but I want to put this post out there for now so it allows people to read me better and to read my cases as well. I'm gonna watch a tv show real quick to refresh my brain ok brb.

On March 04 2014 08:37 Alakaslam wrote:

Well

This Alakaslam likes to roll scum.

Does he go "pfft" as scum?

On March 04 2014 14:45 Alakaslam wrote:

Fwiw that boonetown quote is textbook scum

Textbook scum

On March 04 2014 14:49 Alakaslam wrote:

That's not why she is scummy

"Sorry for X, I see town is doing something and I made the observation, look I contribute. I'm not going to act on it, caveat caveat IF THAT IS OK WITH TOWN DO NOT LYNCH ME DO NOT LYNCH ME"

That is why she is scummy.

On March 05 2014 05:40 Alakaslam wrote:

Mason claim fits with what I voiced earlier.

##will Unvote in that thread

See this VE! The DBZ hath skill so I respect the skill of the VE. And GGTeMpLaR's cologne smells of bus because he wans me lynch town bro

On March 06 2014 05:58 Alakaslam wrote:

No, actually, it couldn't have been.

And sorry for essentially outing you Boone. I tend to rea blues as scum anyway.

On March 08 2014 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Here's something for you to consider.
I am town this game, i am playing totally different than in GSL game so you should be able to tell i am town because i am. You can't, so you are mafia. See what i did there? That's basically what your arguments are.

On March 09 2014 00:32 raynpelikoneet wrote:

There is a reasonable case on him. His defence does not answer the accusation. His reads are based on nothing. He gets unreasonably mad. Those all are things i don't see a townie do.

On March 09 2014 01:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really wonder why DM players like to noob claim.

On March 09 2014 01:08 Dandel Ion wrote:
Robik's d2:

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OMGUS
OMGUS
OMGUS
QWEROIUFH§O%$ITHER)HGWQLK$FLKJF!"OI§JRP"OP§$IHRGI


He's not doing any scumhunting.
His vote is on a person he doesn't even call scum anymore because he can't come up with reasons for it.

On March 09 2014 01:13 justanothertownie wrote:

Enough dandel. Robik if you rage at this again I will lynch you. Just ignore the mocking and answer actual points if they are brought up.

On March 09 2014 01:15 Oatsmaster wrote:
Nightkills speculation is really only speculation and generally there are multiple reasons why someone dies and we never know what it actually is.
Who else is scum Robik?

On March 09 2014 01:18 Palmar wrote:

why?

On March 09 2014 01:31 justanothertownie wrote:
Ok, since nobody seems to bother I will summarize the points dandel brought up against you robik (if I am forgetting something someone should point that out). You might feel like you answered them somewhere already - doesn't matter please do so again if you can.

- you shat on the VE lynch although it isn't clear that Killing wouldn't have also been a mislynch although you yourself said on day1 that you would want the lynch to be between VE/Killing

- you seem to decide someone is scum before making the actual arguments for this to be the case - you called it scummy for dandel to switch to VE and you would also have called it scummy if he stayed on templar.

- you call for a lynch on Killing yet your reasoning is basically that it gives us information and nothing else

- you don't seem to be interested in finding out more about the alignment of your targets

- you are still voting for someone you admitted could be town

- you are raging instead of discussing actual points

- you shat on the VE lynch although it isn't clear that Killing wouldn't have also been a mislynch although you yourself said on day1 that you would want the lynch to be between VE/Killing

- you seem to decide someone is scum before making the actual arguments for this to be the case - you called it scummy for dandel to switch to VE and you would also have called it scummy if he stayed on templar.

- you call for a lynch on Killing yet your reasoning is basically that it gives us information and nothing else

- you don't seem to be interested in finding out more about the alignment of your targets

- you are still voting for someone you admitted could be town

- you are raging instead of discussing actual points

On March 09 2014 05:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The problem is you didn't do anything to push the lynch despite bringing up a good point on him.

On March 09 2014 05:59 justanothertownie wrote:

It has even been posted here... templar/slam/boone.

On March 10 2014 09:00 Palmar wrote:

ready your tinfoil hat JAT.

What if Austin got shot so we wouldn't start randomly lynching into the QT claimed on day 1 as if it was the scumQT and have it sorta work as 2/3 members are scum anyway.

On March 09 2014 07:18 Palmar wrote:


Hi.

Stop making terrible associative reads, especially pre-flip ones.

On March 10 2014 14:53 Alakaslam wrote:

STAHP

NO TO WASTE TIME

NO

On March 10 2014 14:53 boonetown wrote:


Hari is cop, not sure if it's someone in game OR someone that is only observing it, i don't see someone in game being cop and not outting at this point so i'm very confused. I have no idea, this game was more than I should have taken on methinks. In any event, I am the medic. I should be dead in almost every sense of the word. Mafia are either killing people they think wouldn't be medic saves so that I look bad, or they are stupid for keeping me alive. Either way, I am going to be a question mark for everyone until I am either lynched or killed at night. I want to make it perfectly clear that in saying that, I am not saying to lynch me, I want to be alive, I want to stay in the game and I would love to potentially get a medic save.

I have no way of proving my role to you, but I am medic.

On March 10 2014 14:59 Alakaslam wrote:

I would ask why you weren't reading palmar but then go ahead and post it, I'm curious

I checked Slam N1 and he is town. I -o-- ------- -a--- (grack's mafia?), and i still think he is mafia. His play did not improve D2, he actually was very lurky and useless. His vote on Killing is suspicious. He is absolutely your lynch for today. I only had the one vote, and I had to use it yesterday, so I can't help you more today.

Watch Palmar. I think he is the third mafia. His vote was bad and he has basically peaced out of this game mentally. Other than him and Grack, I think that everyone else is town.

I'll have more for you D4.

On March 10 2014 15:17 boonetown wrote:
and i'm an idiot, i put alaka in my leaning town but he's moved up to town based on Hari.

On March 10 2014 15:21 boonetown wrote:
EBWOP: i bolded the part of the puzzle you didn't have finished, and finished it.

On March 10 2014 15:24 boonetown wrote:



i'm aware, pretty sure i was the person that added the /scum to the puzzle when someone else put down that it was town. then you have to think, if hari is actually cop with a check on slam, then he would be town or mafia, wouldn't it? so, i'm going to assume for now that he is in fact town.

On March 10 2014 18:39 raynpelikoneet wrote:While Robik had some good observations on Killing on D1 he did nothing to push a lynch on him, he just sat back with his vote.

On March 05 2014 01:57 Grackaroni wrote:
I don't like what Rayn has been saying so far. His whole Austin post was nonsense - Austin asked a question, he somehow flipped it into Austin being scum for defending boone. Austin didn't defend Boone and I wouldn't find it scummy even if he did defend Boone.

On March 05 2014 02:42 Grackaroni wrote:
Boone/Austin/Rayn actually wouldn't shock me. Rayn's Austin attacked seemed forced so that would make sense.

On March 11 2014 03:08 raynpelikoneet wrote:
But that's what you did. Regardless of how you say you play as town, and i don't think that's very townie. In GSL game you tried to lead lynches, in this game you are not. Maybe you are just more passive. I have no intention to read anyone's filter right now because i have a case but i do not think you are mafia with templar and your observations regarding Killing, regardless of what you did, were good.

On March 11 2014 03:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I don't remember a single post from Grackaroni from the GSL game.
Again Robik, read my posts.
I have given a clear reasoning why i don't think he is mafia, many many times.

On March 11 2014 03:37 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Look Robik, i don't like this post. For a couple of reasons.

I read people more from why they do things they do. I consider pushing a lynch that you actually try to convince people into why your case is better than the case on any other candidate. If there are two cases and someone does not give clear reasons why they vote one dude over another i consider that as not caring about the lynch. Noone of the Killing voters on D1 did try to really convince other people and pushed the case. That's my honest opinion. People voted for him and sat on their votes. That's what i saw when i read the thread and i hate myself for not being able to be here because if i was we would have lynched templar.

I don't like you telling me i am fabricating stuff. If you make that kinda accusation please go to your filter and show me where are the posts where you convince people into voting Killing over VE when the votes started flying. Because you can't. I understand it's possible that's your playstyle but don't you dare to tell me i am fabricating stuff. I tell you and everyone what i see and what i think about it, and that's what i see. saying you tried to hammer is useless because you didn't. So if i am not making sense tell me where i am wrong. Because i am not. That does not mean you are mafia though. But don't tell me i am fabricating shit if you can't prove it because that IS scummy as fuck.

Yes, if you make a case on Grackaroni that i think is better than my case i will vote for him instead of templar. I am perfectly capable of re-evaluating who is the best lynch based on cases there are. I miss stuff, i can't possibly notice everything, otherwise i would be lynching mafia 100% of the time. So please make a case and then we can discuss which case is better.

This also leads me to this. If you defend someone then please, point out why my case is bad. Bad cases are bad for the town and everyone who is town should point out why a case is bad if they think it's bad. That's fucking simple, cut off bad cases asap so mafia has no room to hide and there are only good cases. Basic logic. I don't like the fact you repeatedly tell me Grack is a better lynch than templar but you can't point out why my case is bad nor are you even trying to make a case on Grack.

On March 11 2014 03:49 boonetown wrote:



it's all the 3 DM boys i will die, lol

On March 11 2014 03:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:

What does it matter?
Are you trying to defend him based on what i think what happens after the lynch? wtf?

Why are you trying to make this something that it isn't? This is very clear. If you want to lynch someone other than templar make a better case and/or tell me why my case is bad and not just repeatedly dance around the issue.

On March 11 2014 03:49 boonetown wrote:



why the hell am I in two of your possible mafia scenarios of 3, but not in your scum list?

On March 11 2014 04:22 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


apparently thinking out loud in this game and trying to share thought processes isn't allowed

you're just supposed to post "x is scum because y" or you're paranoid and flip flopping and calling everyone scum

wtf is wrong with people

On March 11 2014 04:31 IAmRobik wrote:
FWIW, Dandelion looking more town today because he isn't going after me and seems to have reevaluated based off of the Killing flip. Which is both pro town and a really towny mindset.

On March 11 2014 04:33 GGTeMpLaR wrote:


what's the reverse of an OMGUS called?

On March 11 2014 04:56 IAmRobik wrote:
Templar...I am starting to think your anger is reminiscent of your mafia play. I never see you get mad as town. You usually just sit back and don't give a fuck.

On March 09 2014 07:48 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
looks like the Killing

has become the Killed.

On March 11 2014 05:27 Palmar wrote:


Based on what?

On March 11 2014 06:05 Alakaslam wrote:
Robik the seal is wifom

On March 11 2014 07:16 Alakaslam wrote:
Wwifomm

On March 11 2014 05:16 IAmRobik wrote:

I totally forgot about this post.

Rayn, I'm never lynching Templar

On March 04 2014 15:02 Killing wrote:


The fuck did I just read

On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Robik is now my top town. He's playing his exact same town game where he makes read on what seemingly is insignificant. He likes to believe that he found some proof even though it usually means and amounts to nothing. Other than that, his reasoning on Dandel is kinda bad. He's probably just tunneling on him as I'm not sure if anything Dandel has done has been that scummy. Voting GGtemplar for obvious reasons. Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.

##vote GGtemplar

On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone

I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify

On March 06 2014 01:36 Killing wrote:
@rayn

I don't play much forum mafia but all you do is talk shit about other players when you're pretty terrible yourself.

On March 06 2014 01:48 Killing wrote:
As I said before, in video mafia, GGtemplar only goes into his crazy plans/theories when he's town. It's possible that he has done that in forum mafia but I've never seen it from him in forum mafia. Even after that post, everything I've read from him I could read in his town voice. I guess I can kind of read him differently that how I can everyone else in this game.

Rayn

You've honestly been just a shit poster for me this entire game. All you do is mostly call people terrible, tell them their reads are terrible or just plain disagree with others without giving much of your own thoughts. Although I'm usually the one to call people terrible, it's quite tiring to read through and I think it's overall bad for town. People that do not have town's best interests in mind are usually my top scum.

Alakazam

He also has posted very little content and hasn't tried to push town foward that much (I guess something I'm guilty of as well). I don't know what it is but everytime, my mind is just screaming scum. I guess it's just one of those gut things more than anything else. It seems most of town is reading town so if someone can give me a good detailed explanation why his nothingness constitues town that would be cool. I assume it's something to do with previous games and how he plays alignments differently.

Boonetown

I really really hated the QT play, more so than anything else. I think it was overall ok for town since we now know there's some seconday QT mechanic in play but the revealing part seemed very awkward to me. I read it as someone that was in a deephole and wanted to either

A) Reveal something to town to try and show transparency(?) and by extent seem more town
B) Create some diversion as in that post she begins to offload her blames onto at least 1 in her QT group (not really sure how she came to that conclusion but I think she has rescinded that).

The one thing that scares me is that she does get ultra-defensive when she is town and usually takes lynches more likely as mafia (since we all hate to be mislynched). If we were playing video, I probably wouldn't kill her today but everything she has done has been pretty weird and my other scum reads are pretty light at the moment.

On March 07 2014 09:00 Killing wrote:
Alright man, you're my top town from now on. Welcome aboard!