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Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 05 2014 20:21 GMT
#1161
I'm here, incoming nerd essay
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 05 2014 20:22 GMT
#1162
On March 06 2014 05:20 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win

##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing

Hijole

I believe ¡Hijole! is the proper term.


Forgive me for I am new to the way of CHUPAZI.

Mind giving a short reasoning for killing over templar?

I'm basically just sheeping between the two.

Austin and Robik pointed out some strange contradictions from killing's reads and I put some faith in Boone's reads of the DM players.

Sounds reasonable. I am ok with either of them dead.
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:25 GMT
#1163
On March 06 2014 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:20 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win

##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing

Hijole

I believe ¡Hijole! is the proper term.


Forgive me for I am new to the way of CHUPAZI.

Mind giving a short reasoning for killing over templar?

I'm basically just sheeping between the two.

Austin and Robik pointed out some strange contradictions from killing's reads and I put some faith in Boone's reads of the DM players.

Sounds reasonable. I am ok with either of them dead.


that's alright, I'm ok with you dead too.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 05 2014 20:25 GMT
#1164
On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

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For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.


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On March 05 2014 14:52 Oatsmaster wrote:
Boone, why do you think that Video meta and forum meta is the same?
Also you gave this Palmar read earlier.
On March 05 2014 02:11 boonetown wrote:
Palmar - created the whole random lynch, then drew actual reads from the conversation it started. The only world in which he would be scum is where him and robik are scum together (calling him town and pushing on an easy lynch target, myself) which seems unlikely.

Where did Palmar draw reads from the whole random lynch debacle?


Palmer sat back and let the trolling happen, then when it did he commented on a lot of people based on what they responded with. He Talked about how he felt Roberts point was valid, that there was too much trolling, than Oats (and others) needed to step it up. He questioned the voting stuff templar did.

I'm currently going through his filter because I wanted to make sure what I wrote still stands. Now that I am focusing just on him and not his posts in whole with the entire thread, he seems to be telling people what to do, explaining how to read people as town, asking for reads, explaining why he does or doesn't agree with someone and their reasoning. I think he wouldnt be my top town anymore, but I still think he's town nonetheless.

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which felt like something I'd never hear her say as town in video mafia. It felt like a really scummy way to respond to early pressure, almost like she had a guilty conscience. A town would probably just be like "IDGAF", not get all emotional about it and blame the game/environment with


I am playing differently because I am not entirely sure how to convey town through text, and my opinion stands and is proving more true by the second, they don't know how to read me, and currently neither do you.

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If nothing else, I clarified with thrawn that the wording on the OP is actually 100% correct. So amongst other reasons I want to policy lynch her for roleclaiming on day 1.


This can be fixed if the people in my QT wanted it fixed, they have let me know they don't. If you are going to lynch me for letting town know about a QT that's happening, you're an idiot.

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Note how diplomatic this is. She's supposedly suspicious of Templar too, and look at the bolded statement! Who asks a scumread if they disagree with them ABOUT themselves? Does that even make sense? To anyone? What's he supposed to say there? "Oh well you know, I wasn't convinced before but now I guess you're right I could be scum" No. He's not supposed to say anything but "no" in that situation regardless of his alignment, so why ask it? This whole post reads to me like she knows Temp is town but wants him to townread her even though she has to call him scum based on her previous posting. She's concerned about appearing consistent. It's scummy, and frankly I could lynch boone today.


OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.
-------------------

This quoting this is getting ridiculous, i'm switching it up.

@Rayn - I think there is scum in our QT becuase I don't think I would be so lucky as to be put in a group with all town, that being said, if it is all town I will feel really stupid when this is all said and done. Why would I feel stupid? Because I outted it, and it could have been used much more effectively. I base my reads on you and austin while reading the QT and the thread itself, not just one or the other. Not just solely because I think there is a mafia in there, but by the way people have played and reacted. That is why I think Austin might be scum.

I just got to the part where you outted the entire QT, I think that's interesting... not sure how to take that.

Here's what I think will happen, you guys are going to lynch me, see that I'm town and start lynching through my QT group which could be good if there is a Mafia in there, but I don't think that there are two, and thus I think you will waste lynches on 2 towns for one mafia. Worst case scenario you lynch all three of us and we all flip town.


@Dandel - I unvoted on GGtemp after his post, I thought that was pretty clear but if it wasn't then I'm sorry. I feel like that is the templar i know and can read better. I'm not saying he's town by any means, but his post made me rethink his play, and therefor my vote was removed.

I AM GOING TO USE CAPS RIGHT NOW, BECUASE IT MEANS IM SERIOUS. GET YOUR VOTES OFF ME, PLEASE. I AM NOT THE BEST VOTE AND IF YOU ARE VOTING ME FOR THE SOLE PURPOSE OF POLICY LYNCH, THAT'S FUCKING MORONIC. YOU DO NOT POLICY LYNCH ME, I DID NOTHING WRONG, I HAVENT CLAIMED ANYTHING OTHER THAN OUTTING A MASON GROUP I THOUGHT WOULD HELP TOWN, IF THEY KNEW ABOUT IT.

I am being pushed on very hard, and people are jumping all over it. Reads are flip flopping because Palmar is trying to bury me, the question is, is he doing it as town or as mafia?

@ robert & joey (killing) - I'm sorry I'm not playing in a way that makes it easy for you to read me as town. You both seem to have the same excuse for reading me as mafia, and while it's slightly valid you have to ask yourself why i might be playing that way.

-----------------------

Here comes the shitty part. It took me an hour to go through all the fucking pages, catch up on everything and now i have about 5 hours left. The votes probably won't be removed, so I'm just going to claim and give my reads. I am medic. I was super fucking nervous coming into this game as it was, and getting this role made it worse. I am getting policy lynched anyway because people are asshats, so I might as well go out with a bang.

I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I am town and therefor everything I say has been from a towns perspective. I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.

Now, here are my lists;

TOWN:
Killing
Robik
Rayn

Leaning town after my reread:
VE


SCUM:
Austin
Alakaslam

Leaning scum after my reread:
Palmar
Oats
Templar

GLHF **as a side note, I wanted to get this information out as quickly as I could, so I'm not rereading it or fixing anything. ignore my keytardedness if there is any**

Welcome to forum mafia. I was often just like this. I used to play live mafia at UCLA Bruin Woods family camp, and I was stron town and hated rolling mafia. I always would start to snort when a plan was going through or when someone accused a fellow townie of something. Whereas I confirmed myself pretty fast but like forum Maia couldn't read worth HIJOLE.

Can't do a lot here, and must learn by practice. I think. Likely you don't have the same disorder I do so there it is.
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
justanothertownie
Profile Joined July 2013
16317 Posts
March 05 2014 20:26 GMT
#1165
On March 06 2014 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:20 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win

##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing

Hijole

I believe ¡Hijole! is the proper term.


Forgive me for I am new to the way of CHUPAZI.

Mind giving a short reasoning for killing over templar?

I'm basically just sheeping between the two.

Austin and Robik pointed out some strange contradictions from killing's reads and I put some faith in Boone's reads of the DM players.

Sounds reasonable. I am ok with either of them dead.


that's alright, I'm ok with you dead too.

Oh god I am feeling the pressure!
Killing
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada530 Posts
March 05 2014 20:26 GMT
#1166
Ok, so I don't really know where to start with this. I read a bit that people hated what I had to say earlier so I went to re-read it and couldn't stop laughing at how terrible it was. I think I've been going about playing thsi shit completely wrong. I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. I'm so used to knowing exactly what's going on and to having strong reads that I think I was compensating but trying to give too much except that it was all obvious garbage. It's really uncomfortable being in this position where I really don't know what's going on even though I wish I did.

Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset.

raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#1167
On March 06 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is retarded-

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If killing / Robik flips mafia kill the other one. 100% guaranteed.


So is this-

Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, not necessarily, might be GGTeMpLaR too.


If there is scum it's Killing, not Robik, because this is the 2nd time Robik has called out Killing on something small in his post that was a good point.

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On March 06 2014 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.


Town fucking asked for my thought process on the votes on like 6 separate occasions so I gave it. If you don't want bad/useless shit don't fucking ask for it over and over throughout the thread.

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On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.



Because you cracked like it was the first game of mafia as mafia you ever played when you got pinged early on in those first few posts of yours getting hyper-defensive and backlashing against everyone.

If you think I WANT you to be mafia, that's absurd. It objectively read as what a mafia would say to me, not town.

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On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:

OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.


Actually I did answer and I sympathized with where you/killing/robik were all coming from in your meta scum read on me - However, I explained how that style really doesn't carry over into forum mafia because the voting mechanics are COMPLETELY different and said if you were town you should re-evaluate the meta read because it didn't make sense in this medium.

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On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.


That's bullshit. I sympathized with it being your first game, but your first few posts were scummy and the way you backlashed at everyone for calling it scummy came across as hyper-defensive and just read more scummy.

When you started giving actual reads instead of arguing with people "not knowing how to read you", you did a good job, especially in this latest post, I was reading you less and less scummy from your conviction if nothing else. Now that you've claimed it's all moot but now that you're basically confirmed town it's important you townread me so that's my thoughts on the matter.

Also, I agree with this 100%:
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On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot


and that he's been so stupid that he has to be town because a mafia couldn't be that bad

Right now I actually still like the VE lynch. I don't like how he reacted to my obvious joke in the QT and I still don't like his reason for voting me.

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On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.


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On March 05 2014 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies.


I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day.

At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.


After I linked the actual QT thread info, do you guys honestly think what is in there is a viable reason to scumread/lynch someone?

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to killing austin today, but I wouldn't really endorse it either. If that's too tentative for you, deal with it, but I haven't really focused on him at all so he's pretty much dead-middle-null for me.

Another lynch that is actually growing on me is the Killing one, specifically for two things Robik pointed out in his posts on two separate occasions which were really dumb
1.
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On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.

Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best.


2.
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On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone


I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify



There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.


Also, I still like my behavioral read of Dandelion this game trying to troll town (JAT/Robik) and cause chaos/confusion/misdirection.

Those are really the 4 people I'm okay with voting today. If I had to prioritize them, it would be like this

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin


Rayn/Oats need to work on reading comprehension but I can't really scumread them for constantly misreading my posts. Especially you Rayn, you read me right the past 2 games I played with you. If you're actually town you need to get off me.

Still like Robik as my top town but I also like Grack a lot for being the only other person besides myself to call out VE on that QT shit.

Kill for this post. Kill fo this post!!!!!!
Killing was green earlier! Now when he is a lynch target he is scum.
Kill kill kill!!!
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#1168
No reasoning given. Fuck this dude is so scum!!
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#1169
On March 06 2014 05:26 justanothertownie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:25 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:22 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:20 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:18 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:17 Grackaroni wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 justanothertownie wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:14 Grackaroni wrote:
The grackaroni hath fail sheep to get. But once fail perhaps win

##Unvote: VE
##Vote: Killing

Hijole

I believe ¡Hijole! is the proper term.


Forgive me for I am new to the way of CHUPAZI.

Mind giving a short reasoning for killing over templar?

I'm basically just sheeping between the two.

Austin and Robik pointed out some strange contradictions from killing's reads and I put some faith in Boone's reads of the DM players.

Sounds reasonable. I am ok with either of them dead.


that's alright, I'm ok with you dead too.

Oh god I am feeling the pressure!


you would, scum

I don't feel any pressure
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 05 2014 20:27 GMT
#1170
On March 06 2014 02:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
I have no idea why Boone thinks she will be good at this game.

Show nested quote +
Palmer sat back and let the trolling happen, then when it did he commented on a lot of people based on what they responded with. He Talked about how he felt Roberts point was valid, that there was too much trolling, than Oats (and others) needed to step it up. He questioned the voting stuff templar did.
This is stuff after the trolling phase though. Palmar analysed 0 content from that part of the game, only after that.

You see not with the eyes of CHUPAZI.
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GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:28 GMT
#1171
On March 06 2014 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is retarded-

On March 06 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If killing / Robik flips mafia kill the other one. 100% guaranteed.


So is this-

On March 06 2014 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, not necessarily, might be GGTeMpLaR too.


If there is scum it's Killing, not Robik, because this is the 2nd time Robik has called out Killing on something small in his post that was a good point.

On March 06 2014 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.


Town fucking asked for my thought process on the votes on like 6 separate occasions so I gave it. If you don't want bad/useless shit don't fucking ask for it over and over throughout the thread.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.



Because you cracked like it was the first game of mafia as mafia you ever played when you got pinged early on in those first few posts of yours getting hyper-defensive and backlashing against everyone.

If you think I WANT you to be mafia, that's absurd. It objectively read as what a mafia would say to me, not town.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:

OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.


Actually I did answer and I sympathized with where you/killing/robik were all coming from in your meta scum read on me - However, I explained how that style really doesn't carry over into forum mafia because the voting mechanics are COMPLETELY different and said if you were town you should re-evaluate the meta read because it didn't make sense in this medium.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.


That's bullshit. I sympathized with it being your first game, but your first few posts were scummy and the way you backlashed at everyone for calling it scummy came across as hyper-defensive and just read more scummy.

When you started giving actual reads instead of arguing with people "not knowing how to read you", you did a good job, especially in this latest post, I was reading you less and less scummy from your conviction if nothing else. Now that you've claimed it's all moot but now that you're basically confirmed town it's important you townread me so that's my thoughts on the matter.

Also, I agree with this 100%:
On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot


and that he's been so stupid that he has to be town because a mafia couldn't be that bad

Right now I actually still like the VE lynch. I don't like how he reacted to my obvious joke in the QT and I still don't like his reason for voting me.

On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.


On March 05 2014 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies.


I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day.

At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.


After I linked the actual QT thread info, do you guys honestly think what is in there is a viable reason to scumread/lynch someone?

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to killing austin today, but I wouldn't really endorse it either. If that's too tentative for you, deal with it, but I haven't really focused on him at all so he's pretty much dead-middle-null for me.

Another lynch that is actually growing on me is the Killing one, specifically for two things Robik pointed out in his posts on two separate occasions which were really dumb
1.
On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.

Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best.


2.
On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone


I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify



There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.


Also, I still like my behavioral read of Dandelion this game trying to troll town (JAT/Robik) and cause chaos/confusion/misdirection.

Those are really the 4 people I'm okay with voting today. If I had to prioritize them, it would be like this

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin


Rayn/Oats need to work on reading comprehension but I can't really scumread them for constantly misreading my posts. Especially you Rayn, you read me right the past 2 games I played with you. If you're actually town you need to get off me.

Still like Robik as my top town but I also like Grack a lot for being the only other person besides myself to call out VE on that QT shit.

Kill for this post. Kill fo this post!!!!!!
Killing was green earlier! Now when he is a lynch target he is scum.
Kill kill kill!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger sums up your life on the forums
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 20:29 GMT
#1172
Again the "scumread" is buried somewhere in the middle. For fucks sake kill this scum already.
I am off, rofl.
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Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 05 2014 20:29 GMT
#1173
On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot

Hijole
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 05 2014 20:29 GMT
#1174
On March 06 2014 05:26 Killing wrote:
Ok, so I don't really know where to start with this. I read a bit that people hated what I had to say earlier so I went to re-read it and couldn't stop laughing at how terrible it was. I think I've been going about playing thsi shit completely wrong. I was just straight up making shit up and pretending to know what I was talking about. I'm so used to knowing exactly what's going on and to having strong reads that I think I was compensating but trying to give too much except that it was all obvious garbage. It's really uncomfortable being in this position where I really don't know what's going on even though I wish I did.

Everything I've done up to now has deserved a lynch. I've played pretty fucking terribly and none of my reads are actually that good. I def gonna start playing differently starting now since I've recognized what's been going on. The most I can do for town right now is prove to you somehow that I'm town. I'm basically starting over from now. I've scrapped basically all my reads and I'm probably going to go and re-read most of the game again with a different mindset.


lol ok this guy is not mafia.
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
March 05 2014 20:30 GMT
#1175
On March 06 2014 02:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
staph! both of you Grack and Oats. Grack why VE, are you being srs?

That's a nasty infection bro

Page 48 FTW
If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 20:30 GMT
#1176
On March 06 2014 05:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is retarded-

On March 06 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If killing / Robik flips mafia kill the other one. 100% guaranteed.


So is this-

On March 06 2014 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, not necessarily, might be GGTeMpLaR too.


If there is scum it's Killing, not Robik, because this is the 2nd time Robik has called out Killing on something small in his post that was a good point.

On March 06 2014 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.


Town fucking asked for my thought process on the votes on like 6 separate occasions so I gave it. If you don't want bad/useless shit don't fucking ask for it over and over throughout the thread.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.



Because you cracked like it was the first game of mafia as mafia you ever played when you got pinged early on in those first few posts of yours getting hyper-defensive and backlashing against everyone.

If you think I WANT you to be mafia, that's absurd. It objectively read as what a mafia would say to me, not town.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:

OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.


Actually I did answer and I sympathized with where you/killing/robik were all coming from in your meta scum read on me - However, I explained how that style really doesn't carry over into forum mafia because the voting mechanics are COMPLETELY different and said if you were town you should re-evaluate the meta read because it didn't make sense in this medium.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.


That's bullshit. I sympathized with it being your first game, but your first few posts were scummy and the way you backlashed at everyone for calling it scummy came across as hyper-defensive and just read more scummy.

When you started giving actual reads instead of arguing with people "not knowing how to read you", you did a good job, especially in this latest post, I was reading you less and less scummy from your conviction if nothing else. Now that you've claimed it's all moot but now that you're basically confirmed town it's important you townread me so that's my thoughts on the matter.

Also, I agree with this 100%:
On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot


and that he's been so stupid that he has to be town because a mafia couldn't be that bad

Right now I actually still like the VE lynch. I don't like how he reacted to my obvious joke in the QT and I still don't like his reason for voting me.

On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.


On March 05 2014 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies.


I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day.

At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.


After I linked the actual QT thread info, do you guys honestly think what is in there is a viable reason to scumread/lynch someone?

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to killing austin today, but I wouldn't really endorse it either. If that's too tentative for you, deal with it, but I haven't really focused on him at all so he's pretty much dead-middle-null for me.

Another lynch that is actually growing on me is the Killing one, specifically for two things Robik pointed out in his posts on two separate occasions which were really dumb
1.
On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.

Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best.


2.
On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone


I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify



There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.


Also, I still like my behavioral read of Dandelion this game trying to troll town (JAT/Robik) and cause chaos/confusion/misdirection.

Those are really the 4 people I'm okay with voting today. If I had to prioritize them, it would be like this

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin


Rayn/Oats need to work on reading comprehension but I can't really scumread them for constantly misreading my posts. Especially you Rayn, you read me right the past 2 games I played with you. If you're actually town you need to get off me.

Still like Robik as my top town but I also like Grack a lot for being the only other person besides myself to call out VE on that QT shit.

Kill for this post. Kill fo this post!!!!!!
Killing was green earlier! Now when he is a lynch target he is scum.
Kill kill kill!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger sums up your life on the forums

"Incapable of answering arguments" would describe you you fucking asshat! I adon't even feel bad saying this because you do that as mafia.
table for two on a tv tray
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
March 05 2014 20:30 GMT
#1177
Mafia (especially newer players) aren't so blatant like that and they are scared as shit of saying something like "I was just making up bullshit"
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:31 GMT
#1178
##Unvote
##Vote: Rayn


not even kidding

this kid is supposed to be good as town and he sucks this game so he's mafia

call it OMGUS all you want, IDGAF. He's inconsistent in his criticism of me and has tunnel'd me over the dumbest shit and he doesn't even read my posts properly and asks like a million stupid questions that he wouldn't have to if he just read proper english
GGTeMpLaR
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States7226 Posts
March 05 2014 20:32 GMT
#1179
On March 06 2014 05:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 06 2014 05:28 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
On March 06 2014 05:27 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On March 06 2014 04:03 GGTeMpLaR wrote:
This is retarded-

On March 06 2014 01:40 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If killing / Robik flips mafia kill the other one. 100% guaranteed.


So is this-

On March 06 2014 01:41 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Oh shit, not necessarily, might be GGTeMpLaR too.


If there is scum it's Killing, not Robik, because this is the 2nd time Robik has called out Killing on something small in his post that was a good point.

On March 06 2014 02:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Like i called your smiley read dumb because it is dumb. I also called templar's posts bad because tehy were bad. Hell people even fucking agree with me on that, how the fuck is that "shitting on someone"? Posts that say nothing or posts which are based on bad logic are bad, there is no reason to call them flowers.


Town fucking asked for my thought process on the votes on like 6 separate occasions so I gave it. If you don't want bad/useless shit don't fucking ask for it over and over throughout the thread.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am going to do this all in the order as I read it.. there are 10 pages to go through, so if this is too long I don't really care at this point. I'm just going to start responding to everything. I have noticed there are now 6 votes on me, and 6 hours to get them off of me. That doesn't leave me much time, so I'm pretty sure I'll end up being the lynch. That being said, I'm going to do everything I can right now to try and make that no happen.

For reasons stated before by myself and others. It's likely she slipped up early on, but I'll need to see more of her reads before I make her my final vote.


Templar, how in the hell do you see a slip? You guys are reaching and grasping at things that aren't there because you WANT me to be mafia, not because I am. There is no world right now, where I am mafia.



Because you cracked like it was the first game of mafia as mafia you ever played when you got pinged early on in those first few posts of yours getting hyper-defensive and backlashing against everyone.

If you think I WANT you to be mafia, that's absurd. It objectively read as what a mafia would say to me, not town.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:

OMFG... I asked him (and he didnt answer by the way) because Templar as town would be the first to admit that what he did was scummy. He would confirm that the way I was reading him was correct, which would in turn allow (as a whole) understand that I'm not just making shit up, I'm reading, paying attention and trying to figure this game out.


Actually I did answer and I sympathized with where you/killing/robik were all coming from in your meta scum read on me - However, I explained how that style really doesn't carry over into forum mafia because the voting mechanics are COMPLETELY different and said if you were town you should re-evaluate the meta read because it didn't make sense in this medium.

On March 06 2014 02:19 boonetown wrote:
I am not, nor have I ever acted scummy in this thread, I might be nervous and I might have no idea what I'm doing (because, HI.. this is my first forum game) but I think I did an okay job.


That's bullshit. I sympathized with it being your first game, but your first few posts were scummy and the way you backlashed at everyone for calling it scummy came across as hyper-defensive and just read more scummy.

When you started giving actual reads instead of arguing with people "not knowing how to read you", you did a good job, especially in this latest post, I was reading you less and less scummy from your conviction if nothing else. Now that you've claimed it's all moot but now that you're basically confirmed town it's important you townread me so that's my thoughts on the matter.

Also, I agree with this 100%:
On March 06 2014 02:31 boonetown wrote:
oats you're an idiot


and that he's been so stupid that he has to be town because a mafia couldn't be that bad

Right now I actually still like the VE lynch. I don't like how he reacted to my obvious joke in the QT and I still don't like his reason for voting me.

On March 05 2014 02:26 VisceraEyes wrote:
He also did something really scummy in the foundation chat (of which I am a part) in coming in and saying "I know both of you are scum, don't even talk to me" as his very first act. My first reaction to being chosen as one of the foundation thingys was "Hmm I guess I better go check the OP to see if it's possible scum are in here....looks like it's possible, better be careful" and I'm town. My first reaction was NOT that I was certain scum were allowed to be in the Foundation chat. The only people who should feel that way as their first reaction should be scum - because they know scum are allowed in the chat.


On March 05 2014 07:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:48 Palmar wrote:
On March 05 2014 06:46 VisceraEyes wrote:
Another Palmar thing I'm missing is stressing the importance of being read as town on D1 for all townies.


I thought I covered that with my rant on how I needed you to look town as I couldn't count on other people looking town earlier in the day.

At any rate, now that I look townie to you what do you think of GGTemp as a lynch? I'm pushing it not as an inactivity policy lynch, but based on the things he's said in the QT. I understand that's not super helpful to you, but considering what he HAS done in the thread, I can't imagine you opposing it.


After I linked the actual QT thread info, do you guys honestly think what is in there is a viable reason to scumread/lynch someone?

I wouldn't necessarily be opposed to killing austin today, but I wouldn't really endorse it either. If that's too tentative for you, deal with it, but I haven't really focused on him at all so he's pretty much dead-middle-null for me.

Another lynch that is actually growing on me is the Killing one, specifically for two things Robik pointed out in his posts on two separate occasions which were really dumb
1.
On March 05 2014 04:55 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 05 2014 04:52 Killing wrote:
Also VE is really high in my town list, I liked what he had to say earlier and try to fix the fight between Robik and Dandel is probably townie.

Really? This is like the easiest thing in the world to do as mafia to get town credit if Dandelion and I are both town. This should be role neutral at best.


2.
On March 06 2014 02:13 IAmRobik wrote:
On March 06 2014 01:29 Killing wrote:
Hey guys, Sorry I lurked all of last night. The reason I unvoted GGtemplar was simply because of his gigantic post. When he's town in video mafia, he'll go into these long winded theories about who he thinks the mafia and why but when he's mafia he'll just do a quick explanation. I'm not saying that he couldn't do his gigantic post as scum but I think it's extremely unlikely.

I don't know what's going on with boone this game as it isn't her town or mafia play. Typically, she can project town extremely well as either alignment but in this game she's done a pretty bad job. I don't really know what was the deal with the QT stuff in regards to the game but outting it probably pushed her to more scummy in my eyes.

Also, I had austin as one of my strongest towns earlier in the game but I don't know where he's been for hours. Where u at?

Here are my updated reads:

Strong Town

Rob

Leaning Town:

Palmar
GGTemplar
JAT
Dandelion

Neutral

Grack
Oats
VE

Leaning Maf

Alakazam
Rayn

Strong Maf

Boone


I think that's all except austin. I didn't put him because I was reading him town before but now that he hasn't really said much which makes me more unsure of him. no idea where to put him. if anyone has any questions about any of my reads, just ask and i'll clarify



There's a contradiction in the bolded parts. You say that her play is off and you can't get a good feel on whether she is maf or town, but that you lean scum on her (by the end of that bolded paragraph), but then you list her under "STRONG MAF" reads. I am so wishy-washy on Boone right now, I think having her as "strong maf" is quite the stretch.


Also, I still like my behavioral read of Dandelion this game trying to troll town (JAT/Robik) and cause chaos/confusion/misdirection.

Those are really the 4 people I'm okay with voting today. If I had to prioritize them, it would be like this

VE
Dandelion
Killing
Austin


Rayn/Oats need to work on reading comprehension but I can't really scumread them for constantly misreading my posts. Especially you Rayn, you read me right the past 2 games I played with you. If you're actually town you need to get off me.

Still like Robik as my top town but I also like Grack a lot for being the only other person besides myself to call out VE on that QT shit.

Kill for this post. Kill fo this post!!!!!!
Killing was green earlier! Now when he is a lynch target he is scum.
Kill kill kill!!!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning-Kruger sums up your life on the forums

"Incapable of answering arguments" would describe you you fucking asshat! I adon't even feel bad saying this because you do that as mafia.


Guy calls me scum with no reason. I retort, you call me out on having no argument.

#logic

get out scum
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43268 Posts
March 05 2014 20:32 GMT
#1180
l2play idiot
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