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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
February 12 2014 22:47 GMT
#381
@rayn: how do you read kush/vivax right now?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
QuantumPope
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada76 Posts
February 12 2014 22:49 GMT
#382
On February 13 2014 07:44 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:37 QuantumPope wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:18 roundabound wrote:
Okay so IAmRobik given you were so hard on going after lurkers early on in the game how come you don't question Mattchew & QuantumPope now? One of them has unanswered questions and instead of answering them he jsut posted some crap and QP made a shitty couple of posts (yes, i totally disagree with them being "townie because no fucks given") and peaced out. There is also Grackaroni who hasn't said much anything of value.

Why single out thrawn of those people and now that your (apparently?) pressure on him has been answered satisfactory why are you not following with your eagerness to read people and your own scumhunting methods you started the game with? Like you called out people lurking or scared to post 1h into the game, what about those people now?

~rayn

I dislike the use of calling my posts shitty. I merely reacted when I was pinged. I am not defending Robik here in the slightest though and found it suspicious of how someone found me town based on my posts as they were pretty unsubstantial.

If there are two people who I trust to read me correctly in this thread it's Mattchew and IAmRobik as they have had the most interaction with me outside of this forum but being able to read correctly can also lean mafia. I have null reads on both of them at the moment. As for scum we really have not found a bunch of information in my opinion as it's early on.

See here is why these posts are shitty.
You could just say "i agree with you", but instead you write ~100 words...

~rayn

Less words = more scummy

k
www.twitch.tv/onemoregametv || sc2l.gg || d2l.gg || www.twitter.com/QuantumPope ||
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#383
On February 13 2014 07:47 ShiaoPi wrote:
@rayn: how do you read kush/vivax right now?

There is something i need to ask them a bit later. Meta case on thrawn was shitty as hell.
On February 13 2014 07:49 QuantumPope wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:44 roundabound wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:37 QuantumPope wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:18 roundabound wrote:
Okay so IAmRobik given you were so hard on going after lurkers early on in the game how come you don't question Mattchew & QuantumPope now? One of them has unanswered questions and instead of answering them he jsut posted some crap and QP made a shitty couple of posts (yes, i totally disagree with them being "townie because no fucks given") and peaced out. There is also Grackaroni who hasn't said much anything of value.

Why single out thrawn of those people and now that your (apparently?) pressure on him has been answered satisfactory why are you not following with your eagerness to read people and your own scumhunting methods you started the game with? Like you called out people lurking or scared to post 1h into the game, what about those people now?

~rayn

I dislike the use of calling my posts shitty. I merely reacted when I was pinged. I am not defending Robik here in the slightest though and found it suspicious of how someone found me town based on my posts as they were pretty unsubstantial.

If there are two people who I trust to read me correctly in this thread it's Mattchew and IAmRobik as they have had the most interaction with me outside of this forum but being able to read correctly can also lean mafia. I have null reads on both of them at the moment. As for scum we really have not found a bunch of information in my opinion as it's early on.

See here is why these posts are shitty.
You could just say "i agree with you", but instead you write ~100 words...

~rayn

Less words = more scummy

k

No, too many words = looking like you are saying stuff when you actually aren't.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
February 12 2014 22:51 GMT
#384
more like where is the content in all those words? Also mind answering my question?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 12 2014 22:54 GMT
#385
On February 13 2014 07:51 ShiaoPi wrote:
more like where is the content in all those words? Also mind answering my question?

But he did answer you.
Did you read the thread from the beginning? Why did you not say you have played with Mordanis multiple times? I asked about it.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 12 2014 22:55 GMT
#386
It was a question that was masked to everyone but directed to you, why did you miss it?

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
February 12 2014 22:57 GMT
#387
he did not, I asked for his current opinion on matt and robik since he seems to be quite familiar with them out of the game, giving him an advantage in reading them.

I played with mordanis 1 game I think? Like 2 years ago or something? And a newbie to boot, not really much to work with to be honest.
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 12 2014 22:59 GMT
#388
On February 13 2014 07:41 roundabound wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 07:30 IAmRobik wrote:
On February 13 2014 07:18 roundabound wrote:
Okay so IAmRobik given you were so hard on going after lurkers early on in the game how come you don't question Mattchew & QuantumPope now? One of them has unanswered questions and instead of answering them he jsut posted some crap and QP made a shitty couple of posts (yes, i totally disagree with them being "townie because no fucks given") and peaced out. There is also Grackaroni who hasn't said much anything of value.

Why single out thrawn of those people and now that your (apparently?) pressure on him has been answered satisfactory why are you not following with your eagerness to read people and your own scumhunting methods you started the game with? Like you called out people lurking or scared to post 1h into the game, what about those people now?

~rayn

1) I'm not comfortable analyzing QuantumPope at this moment, but I will agree that he's town.
2) Mattchew's comment about no fucks given was about Vivex, not about QuantumPope, and I don't remember if Mattchew answered that or not, but if not, I answered it for him. Either way, I have Mattchew as town for now. We'll see if he participates more or not. Given my experience with him, I would say Mattchew would be/will be more active if he is town and would/will take a more passive route as maf.

I haven't really noticed Grackaroni, but would be more than happy to go back and read, what I assume, are 1-2 posts. Either way, thrawn's substance was far less than anyone else's at that point.

I can't call out everyone for not participating. I singled out thrawn because his early participation sucked a big fatty. He was in the thread but not participating...just posting fluff. Since then, I feel like he has provided a lot more content and I've since changed my opinion of him.

I will be reading other people. I am being active in this thread, but I'm also at work, so I'm not able to do everything all at once. Patience young Padawan...I will give reads on everyone at some point. Also, I wasn't 100% clear as to how this game worked and have since figured out that days aren't a set length as I'm used to, so apparently there's no pressure to hurry up on anything. I was just eager to start playing and assumed that people would share that eagerness/enthusiasm.

1) How can you say you have him as town if you are not comfortable analysing him atm? This is like giving a read that has no basis behind it. Do you think he is town or not and if you do why? If you don't why did you say so?
2) Same question.

What would have Mattchew and QP posted as mafia in your opinion at the start of the game? Why? Mattchew very well knows how games work here and and especially his posts i found really fishy. Unless there is something behind them i don't understand. But especially as i aksed about them from him and he refused to answer and instead posted some other shit that has no value i am inclined to think he has no good answers.

3) How is this post:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 03:42 thrawn2112 wrote:
hmmm

more scummy than this:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 03:37 Grackaroni wrote:
No worries there this forum loves spamming.

???

~rayn

1) I understand you want an answer to this. I'm not gonna give it to you.
2) I have him as town because our reads align at the moment. Not just that, but he cleared Vivex for the exact reason that I would have cleared vivex if I wasn't too big of a bitch to actually post it. I was a bitch because I only post my thoughts when I'm truly sold on what I'm saying. When I 100% believe it to be true. This is not to say that I am unwilling to reconsider given new information or a change in style or attitude, but I like going off of original impressions a lot. So that's why I think Chew is town.

With regards to your next round of questioning, I am not going to talk about QP for d1 unless I need to defend him. I just have a read that he's town and that's all I'm going to repeat over and over again.

Mattchew would have fluffed it up hardcore and not given any town reads in my opinion if he was scum. He would not have cleared Vivex for what he cleared him for. And he probably wouldn't have cleared me, and probably has QP as town for the same reason I have QP as town.

I don't know what your experience is with Mattchew or how he plays the games here, but my impression of how he would play as town is aligning with how he's playing right now. I don't know about his lack of response to you. I'll probably reread stuff when I get home today from work. My preferred method of play is to just stay on top of the game and respond to things as they happen. My rereads come in lulls or when I have an abundance of free time or night phases (which apparently this game doesn't have an abundance of).

As for Grackaroni, I thought he had posted before then, but I could be wrong. What Thrawn posted stuck out to me, so that's what I focused on. I don't know why you think I need to take a hard stand on every player right away, especially those who have fluffed/been lurky. I have said in general that I think lurky/fluffy posters are scummier. I called out one of them. I have since reconsidered no that person think he's pretty town. I'm trying to solve the game.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
February 12 2014 22:59 GMT
#389
ebwop: went back to check, I actually also played dwarf fortress mafia with him, so 2 games, but both quite far back
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 12 2014 23:03 GMT
#390
So I probably didn't notice the names too well and thought grackaroni and Mordanis were the same person. I dunno...kinda sorta have similar letters in them.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 12 2014 23:03 GMT
#391
Well that's the scummiest post in thread.
##Vote: IAmRobik

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
February 12 2014 23:03 GMT
#392
On February 13 2014 07:59 IAmRobik wrote:
1) I understand you want an answer to this. I'm not gonna give it to you.


With regards to your next round of questioning, I am not going to talk about QP for d1 unless I need to defend him. I just have a read that he's town and that's all I'm going to repeat over and over again.



Absolutely and utterly convincing me of QP there man.....not
why not share your wisdom?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 12 2014 23:06 GMT
#393
I don't know how to quote all or quote several things, but filtering by mordanis...he seems really scummy to me right now. I think thrawn just brought that up too, but in my opinion, the scummiest thing he said was actually not what thrawn pointed out, but the comment "brb gonna go write a wall of text case against everyone." then he disappeared and came back firing at me about my vote on thrawn.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 12 2014 23:08 GMT
#394
You can vote me all you want...it won't make me any less town. Just because I don't want to share right now doesn't make me scummy. It makes me a good player that knows how to play and save some information. I could be wrong. I could be right. But his first post made me think he's town.
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 12 2014 23:09 GMT
#395
I'm not saying this is the case in this situation, but if I read someone as cop, what would you have me say? Oh, I think he's town because I think he's cop!

Hey Conrad. I think you're the cop. That's why I am clearing you. They forced it out of me. Sorry bro. Next time.
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
February 12 2014 23:09 GMT
#396
based on what the fuck is that now?
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 12 2014 23:10 GMT
#397
I think Mordanis has about the best posts in thread. Yes they are worded a bit awkwardly and idk what that means. He can answer for himself about that. The "brb gonna go write a wall of text case against everyone" is an obvious joke and everyone should be able to realise it..

The scummiest guy is the one who can't back up his reads and his thought process behind his reads.

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
February 12 2014 23:10 GMT
#398
On February 13 2014 04:11 QuantumPope wrote:
Greetings from Seoul, Korea and welcome to the GSL. I am QuantumPope and we're here doing a piggyback broadcast in this TL thread.

Hi everybody. Just got into work and see this has started. My body is ready. NaDa thing can go wrong.

Show nested quote +
On February 13 2014 04:07 Mattchew wrote:
QuantumPope, are you a man?

You question my manhood?


this reads as Nestea cop to you? dafuq
LiquidDota Staff@TW_ShiaoPi
TL+ Member
IAmRobik
Profile Joined January 2014
United States5878 Posts
February 12 2014 23:11 GMT
#399
Who the fuck cares. I'm not gonna sit here and role hunt for fucking mafia. Stop asking me to do it. I'm not fucking gonna do it. Back off.
roundabound
Profile Joined February 2014
Niue881 Posts
February 12 2014 23:12 GMT
#400
If QP is a cop that was the stupidest play i have ever seen. He could have aswell claimed a cop..

~rayn
Mocsta & IAmRobik hydra
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