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Cavalinho
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Also, yes, the amount of OMGUS in this thread is getting ridiculous. Absolutely nothing seems to be happening aside from people making cases that get completely ignored or dropped. I'm going to propose the same thing I did last game. We all need to choose a small number of people to lynch today in order to stop all the OMGUS'ing and to organize the town rather than having everyone just argue in circles for the bajillionth time. | ||
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Cavalinho
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On February 28 2014 02:21 Vivax wrote: Like really that post of yours looks down on town for what it's doing but what are you accomplishing with that? It's absolutely saying nothing. Let's hear some real opinions son First of all, Toad already showed you his case. Secondly, nothing is happening. In my last game, we argued and nobody came to a consensus on anything and I got lynched d1 with only two votes. This is not a good atmosphere for town, no matter how you try to look at it. The vote list by itself shows that we have no idea what the fuck we are doing. The day is going to end very soon, and we all need to figure out who we are lynching. I'm not particularly willing to go through the same scenario twice, and I'd much rather we all came to an agreement rather than argue in circles. The only thing that really sticks out to me right now (aside from TheChyz posting absolutely nothing like he did in his last game as town) is that when rayn randomly voted WoS, two people came out of the woodwork to ask why. It's unlikely that mafia would reveal themselves so quickly and early into the first day, but it's still a point of interest, especially when one of those people (Mocsta) is someone that we've all pushed as one of the best lynches for today. | ||
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Cavalinho
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On February 28 2014 02:56 Vivax wrote: What case, he said he didn't like that post, but otherwise I'm a townread according to his spreadsheet, posted after the post he didn't like. A case is a summary of explanations explaining why somebody is scum. I need to know if your axe is with me or with mocsta. And I gain from the last part that you think WoS should be looked at more closely. Herp derp, I just realized that I've been misreading everything and that WoS was the one posting all that stuff. At any rate, just switch all of my comments about Toad to WoS and it's the same thing. All the things I can bring up right now all feel like they won't have much impact on anything. Suki asked me to vote earlier after she made her case on TheChyz, but I'm not sure whether to take that as her trying to see what I'm doing in my first not newbie game, or trying to save herself because she had more votes than Chyz. Also, I don't think I'm going to be voting you today. Aside from all the nitpicking, nobody really seems to be going out of their way to defend you and it seems like you're way to easy to lynch if someone decided to push really hard. Chyz and geript are still two people that I don't particularly like right now. Mocsta, at the very least, addressed what I was saying earlier making me think that he's actually going back to try and figure things out, whereas geript is just tunneling and saying "I need you guys to trust me." | ||
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Cavalinho
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On February 28 2014 03:18 Holyflare wrote: Vivax i'm reading your filter and looking at everything you've posted about mocsta, it all leads to "he's playing passive" with no real push and therefore you've classified him as scum, I see no real push yourself on mocsta, no real basis for pushing this read over everyone else in the game that has been pushed. You've questioned him sure but no proper conclusions were drawn, no attempt to rationalise whether what he was doing was coming from a towny standpoint or a scummy one. Gumshoe took a stance that mocsta's play was town mocsta, whereas you took the stance to mean that it's scum mocsta but then you criticise gumshoe for coming to a conclusion on his play like you have also done. Even now, the town atmosphere seems to be on top of you and you're directing people mocsta's way and getting THEM to explain it rather than saving yourself by pointing out exactly what makes him scum. Even now you're trying to make me elaborate on things that i've already elaborated on. caval, vivax only has 3 votes on him with 6 hours left in the day, in no way is that indicative of a lynch on a towny and the lack of defence on him is not indicative either, look specifically at his play rather than what other people are doing because i have seen people defend him earlier on in the thread and when people that look towny rayn/wos/me start posting our intentions on possible vivax lynches then that is where you look for people that sheep after we state our stances Maybe, maybe not. My point is that all the information going around right now seems entirely reactive and nothing is hashed out yet, and it's really starting to bother me. Let me give you an example. Earlier, suki asked me to vote who I think was suspect. Now, after thinking it over, I thought that she would have said something like that for one of two reasons: A) Suki wants to see how I'm playing this game, as she was one of the observers of my last one and noticed that I learned a lot about that game. B) Suki had three votes on her and made a case on someone I already thought was scummy, and she was appealing to get my vote to potentially save herself. A quick filter dive (as my filter is not very long) reveals that Chyz is my strongest scumread. Convenient. This is the kind of stuff I'm talking about. Does this make suki scummy? Maybe, maybe not. Personally, I think the simplest answer is the best (A) and suki is probably town, but you see what I'm getting at. All the information going around right now seems entirely reactive, and it feels a lot like my other game, where people just go around and point fingers at each other and absolutely nothing gets done. For the record, looking through Vivax's filter makes me think he's town. Despite the fact that he had a bunch of votes on him earlier, he still found time to scumhunt. I'm not voting him today. If anything, I'm probably going to look more closely at WoS and gumshoe. | ||
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Cavalinho
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On February 28 2014 04:48 raynpelikoneet wrote: ##Vote: suki I'll be back before deadline if i wake up. Ugh, is there any chance he's gonna come back before then? I want him to explain his vote. | ||
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On February 28 2014 08:17 Vivax wrote: I'm curious how this Cavalinho dude will justify his uber late vote, if he even will. What's that supposed to mean? | ||
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Cavalinho
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I'm still not entirely sure why rayn and HolyFlare think suki is scummy. The only reason I'm this indecisive is that if my strongest townreads are jumping to take her out, then there might be something to it. I don't see it, and the only people I really want to vote for have almost no votes on them. I think JJD's filter shows that he's trying to contribute, but he's only arguing around in a circle with everyone else. I think I'm going to have to trust my townreads on this one. ##Vote suki | ||
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Cavalinho
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On February 28 2014 08:40 Vivax wrote: Rayn went derp mode for reasons I can't understand. The mocsta confirmed town thingy makes no sense to me the way he explained it cause I don't expect the hosts to do a favour to individual players. So yeah, his suki vote is a riddle, and he basically stopped playing the game outside of that. HF thinks suki is scummy for the bad town atmosphere thingy and cause he thinks that saying things others said previously as if they were your own is scummy and not just copyright infringement cause you don't care who a point belongs to if it's a good point. Furthermore HF found Mocsta scummy himself for reasons similar to the ones suki mentioned (unexplainable read jumps in his incredibly helpful lists /sarcasm) but completely quit pursuing him afterwards and disregards what suki said about mocsta just cause he says she was rehashing that. On the other hand I already mentioned at some point that both of Moc's and suki's reads on each other changed in weird ways after their initial aggression so there's the conspiracy theory that they are in fact both scum. I said town atmosphere was bad as well. Nobody wants to jump on me for that? Although Mocsta is pretty scummy, nothing he did early game made any sense and I was totally set to lynch him. I just find this suki bandwagon particularly odd. | ||
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Cavalinho
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HolyFlare, is there anyone else you'd be particularly satisfied to vote for? I think suki is town, and Mocsta is probably the better lynch between the two. | ||
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That's about as thinly veiled an OMGUS can get without outright saying it. You never seemed to have a problem with anything else I said right up until I said you could be scummy. | ||
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Go reread. I'm not going to bother explaining things to you if you aren't diving my incredibly short filter. ##Unvote ##vote Mocsta | ||
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On February 28 2014 08:56 TheChyz wrote: I know why you voted for her, and its complete garbage the case you make. You basically said that your going to vote a town read who you think is supplying good analysis to the game just because some other of your town reads are voting her. ROFL what a joke After I promptly changed my vote because I had an opportunity to save (what I perceive to be) a townread. If you aren't going to step in and vote Mocsta, then stop bugging me. | ||
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And now I can't spell either. Awesome. | ||
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On February 28 2014 09:11 Holyflare wrote: whatever, i'm gonna take a break for a bit and get wasted :D i should write a scum tell book ![[image loading]](http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41ZHRmcsSnL.jpg) never forget You should. I would pay money for it. | ||
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Cavalinho
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On February 28 2014 09:16 Mocsta wrote: Lol... You are the scum that fake claimed vig. I Got you lynched that game. You shoot me then doesn't matter. I was suspect of suki for exactly the right reasons. Not my problem this town shit on it I will admit that if I assume u r town, it makes me want to reassess gumshoe With a suki flip it is interesting he came to my defense and then attacked suki unproductively Will give this more thought if I'm alive tomorrow. To be fair, we didn't entirely shit on it. We just...kind of shat on it. Like, only a little. All kidding aside, I'm going to nominate JJD to die next because frankly I can only be wrong so many times. | ||
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