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9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg.
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On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg. Sheep me sheeping marv. ezgame ezlife.
i thought you were hosting. wtf.
##vote: Koshi
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On May 21 2014 06:28 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:27 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:24 Valenius wrote:On May 21 2014 06:22 Koshi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:22 Valenius wrote:
9 player day 1's normally confuse me. gg. Sheep me sheeping marv. ezgame ezlife. i thought you were hosting. wtf. ##vote: Koshi Even though I am a divine being in this game. I ascended and joined the plebs. I don't have anything against plebs though, they are simple but amusing beings. I allow the smartest of them to call me Koshi. You can call me Master. I might have meant descended. It is just hard for me to grasp going downwards.
It was such a nice post, I wasn't going to correct it for you.
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On May 21 2014 06:49 Yell0w wrote:
So about this whole RNG thing, aren't scum players more likely to vote for OdinofPergo if he isn't in their faction since they don't even need a reason to vote him? They can just claim they're doing it for RNG and get a lynch on someone who isn't aligned with them?
Wouldn't a better way be to each claim we are RNG voting, then use the RNG on the post in which we claimed it and then vote for whomever our own post said? So that there is no way to know if you're going to lynch someone of your own faction or not so it's riskier for scum to go by RNG? Maybe I'm completely wrong here.
I like that, I haven't thought it through - But I like it.
RNG V2
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Actually, won't it cause the same theoretical situation, just with votes more spread?
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+ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:42 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:17 27ninjabunnies wrote:
I'd lynch HF in a heartbeat if he aligned with mafia. Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:23 27ninjabunnies wrote:
Oh I'd lynch tamburini in a heartbeat regardless of his alignment. Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:28 WaveofShadow wrote:
Sorry HF you've broken my heart too many times. ![[image loading]](http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120309173425/goldensun/images/thumb/b/ba/GSHeart.jpg/240px-GSHeart.jpg) Chalis (ハート Heart) is an antagonist in Golden Sun: Dark Dawn. Together with Blados, she is one of the commanders of a secretive military nation named Tuaparang. All three are bad guys taunting us in the thread. I rest my case.
LOL
##unvoted koshi btw
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On May 21 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:45 Steveling wrote:On May 21 2014 07:43 Holyflare wrote:On May 21 2014 07:36 marvellosity wrote:Xatalos, I really have no idea, nor do I care, because I don't particularly strive to be consistent from game to game. Honestly the fact that you're beating away at this makes you look kinda better though, so maybe I'll unvote you if I'm feeling nice On May 21 2014 07:32 Holyflare wrote:
yes please do
##unvote
##vote steveling
You do realise, though, that Steve's semi-ridiculous behaviour makes it less likely he's mafia though, yes? (or traditional mafia. I'm just gonna say town for town and mafia for all the other factions until something tells me otherwise) On May 21 2014 07:20 Holyflare wrote:
if you're gonna play like last game i will actually policy lynch you and i honestly don't care despite me being scum in the game he was talking about we literally only won because he was doing what he was doing as town and was an easy mislynch so i'm just going to get rid of him until he learns Yes you literally only won because of my bad play as town right? Not because NO ONE, LITERALLY NO ONE VOTED FOR A SCUM IN ALL 3 DAYS. Oh wait, except me. ^^^ case in point anyway bh if you take out newbie games towns recently have a 40%+ chance of finding mafia day 1 by lynching and so it's obv far better not to rng
If you add in newbie games, we just lynch town/any claimed power roles. ezpz
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On May 21 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:33 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2014 06:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum. Why does more factions = more scum? Wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio of scum/all players balanced? As a member of the balance team, I can assure you that a multifactional game supports more scum than a non-multifactional game. There are a number of reasons for this. Part of it is that, say, in a 2-scum-faction game, half of the scum will push on each other for reasons unrelated to bussing, because they can't distinguish between "scum on the other scum team" and "town". They'll even shoot into each other sometimes. Town loses the ability to make some associative tells, but the amount of crosstalk from scum accidentally pushing or shooting each other makes up for it. 2+2 scum with each group having 1 kp will never be as effective as 4 scum with 2 kp working together at killing town. That being said, you never mentioned any real objection to the concept of RNG, you just questioned my estimate of scum in this game. I can only assume you didn't object to actual RNG because you think it would be fine if more factions = more scum. So, now that I've shown that more factions = more scum, you'll vote odin, yes? I would need some kind of hard evindence that there are multiple scum factions in this game to RNG lynch, since those additional factions could be third parties and that wouldn't necessarily increase the scum numbers. The definition of factions pretty much means they have to be scum aligned. Otherwise we'd just call them "blues". Even if they were like 3p factions or whatever, we'd still want them dead, right? Also nice goalpost moving. 1. "do more factions = more scum? wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio... balanced?" as a question implies that you, like me, expected all or most of the factions to be scum factions. 2. but then "additional factions could be third parties..." later on is what you say after I show solve #1. So, what's the deal? Why the resistance on the odinofpergo lynch???
From OP: "Town-Wincondition: Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town!"
Not necessarily all scum aligned?
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On May 21 2014 07:54 jampidampi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2014 07:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:33 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2014 06:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum. Why does more factions = more scum? Wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio of scum/all players balanced? As a member of the balance team, I can assure you that a multifactional game supports more scum than a non-multifactional game. There are a number of reasons for this. Part of it is that, say, in a 2-scum-faction game, half of the scum will push on each other for reasons unrelated to bussing, because they can't distinguish between "scum on the other scum team" and "town". They'll even shoot into each other sometimes. Town loses the ability to make some associative tells, but the amount of crosstalk from scum accidentally pushing or shooting each other makes up for it. 2+2 scum with each group having 1 kp will never be as effective as 4 scum with 2 kp working together at killing town. That being said, you never mentioned any real objection to the concept of RNG, you just questioned my estimate of scum in this game. I can only assume you didn't object to actual RNG because you think it would be fine if more factions = more scum. So, now that I've shown that more factions = more scum, you'll vote odin, yes? I would need some kind of hard evindence that there are multiple scum factions in this game to RNG lynch, since those additional factions could be third parties and that wouldn't necessarily increase the scum numbers. The definition of factions pretty much means they have to be scum aligned. Otherwise we'd just call them "blues". Even if they were like 3p factions or whatever, we'd still want them dead, right? Also nice goalpost moving. 1. "do more factions = more scum? wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio... balanced?" as a question implies that you, like me, expected all or most of the factions to be scum factions. 2. but then "additional factions could be third parties..." later on is what you say after I show solve #1. So, what's the deal? Why the resistance on the odinofpergo lynch??? I don't see how my wording implies I thought all or most of the factions to be scum factions. My orginal assumption was that there would be only one scum faction, since that is how it usually is.
At the risk of being shouted at for setup talk, I'd be a bit disappointed if it was one scum faction. Cross-shooting (see BH's post) would be funnier.
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On May 21 2014 08:07 Blazinghand wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 07:50 Valenius wrote:On May 21 2014 07:48 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2014 07:45 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 07:33 Blazinghand wrote:On May 21 2014 06:40 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:32 Blazinghand wrote:
Look, I know you guys all hate RNG lynch but with 4 factions there's gonna be way more scum than usual, right? This means RNG has a much higher chance than usual of hitting scum. This is possibly the best time EVER for using RNg. Everyone lynch OdinofPergo, because statistically speaking he is scum. Why does more factions = more scum? Wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio of scum/all players balanced? As a member of the balance team, I can assure you that a multifactional game supports more scum than a non-multifactional game. There are a number of reasons for this. Part of it is that, say, in a 2-scum-faction game, half of the scum will push on each other for reasons unrelated to bussing, because they can't distinguish between "scum on the other scum team" and "town". They'll even shoot into each other sometimes. Town loses the ability to make some associative tells, but the amount of crosstalk from scum accidentally pushing or shooting each other makes up for it. 2+2 scum with each group having 1 kp will never be as effective as 4 scum with 2 kp working together at killing town. That being said, you never mentioned any real objection to the concept of RNG, you just questioned my estimate of scum in this game. I can only assume you didn't object to actual RNG because you think it would be fine if more factions = more scum. So, now that I've shown that more factions = more scum, you'll vote odin, yes? I would need some kind of hard evindence that there are multiple scum factions in this game to RNG lynch, since those additional factions could be third parties and that wouldn't necessarily increase the scum numbers. The definition of factions pretty much means they have to be scum aligned. Otherwise we'd just call them "blues". Even if they were like 3p factions or whatever, we'd still want them dead, right? Also nice goalpost moving. 1. "do more factions = more scum? wouldn't scum numbers stay the same to keep the ratio... balanced?" as a question implies that you, like me, expected all or most of the factions to be scum factions. 2. but then "additional factions could be third parties..." later on is what you say after I show solve #1. So, what's the deal? Why the resistance on the odinofpergo lynch??? From OP: "Town-Wincondition: Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town!" Not necessarily all scum aligned? Thanks for the support, but you haven't explicitly stated what your thoughts are on the Odinofpergo lynch are. Now that the tide is turning against you, this might be your only chance to do so. So what's the deal?
In short; I'm okay with either or yours, or Yellow's method (if followed fully)
From some of the responses so far; Yellow's method wouldn't work due to enough unwilling players, which when votes would be spread wide not tall would nullify any effect of the random voting. Yours I'm okay with. Obviously oop hasn't posted yet, so he'll probably be pretty salty, and it would require probably.. 14 of the players signing on to it?
My first post that the steve carell posting guy got upset with was saying im shit at day 1's with 9 players (newbie games). I'll stand by this, regardless of whether he thinks its scummy or not. For me, RNG is about as good as me picking a d1 lynch target.
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On May 22 2014 00:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.
This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.
My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand
The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.
I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.
The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..
Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.
Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.
Why would you be okay with Valenius lynch? Any original reasons?
Sqrt, be my knight in shining armour.
Travelling home now, so ill post properly in a bit.
Fun fact: I took more toilet breaks than I ever have done at work before, just so I could semi-keep up with you all.
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Yeah, active in a newbie game is a reasonable indicator.. I wouldnt agree that it is once were out of the paddling pool.
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On May 22 2014 01:11 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 01:04 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 01:04 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:54 Cavalinho wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Koshi wrote:On May 22 2014 00:52 Valenius wrote:On May 22 2014 00:46 sqrtofneg1 wrote:On May 22 2014 00:45 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So some thoughts so far..
I'll try to keep in order as much as possible... but as I just skimmed like 50 pages that might be hard.
This whole RNG stuff.
It's pointless, it was pointless from the start.
My few conclusions I'm going to take away from this are:
BH is probably scum. Not as a baseless OMGUS, I'll explain.
BH has literally no filter.
None at all.
I'm not saying I'm in-tune with how BH does his RNG thing people were saying was popular with him.
But BH's filter consist of:
Let's RNG Odin.
No serious guys, let's do it.
Guys? Why we no voting for Odin?
Ok screw RNG then I'll just call Odin scum.
You know the guy who's posted.. not a single time.
How did this a RNG roll evolve to a scum read?
I mean it's been almost half of day one now and I'm still the only read he has in the game atm.
Okok, I lied a bit there. He wanted someone to shoot Geript iirc too.
So my conclusion to his filter is:
-Useless RNG talk
-Filler post
-Weird call for a shot on Geript (Dude's an ass? who knew! Geript you horse you.)
-Impossible evolution of a scum read on Odin
##Vote: Blazinghand
The Steve/Holy/MZ whoever else arguement was pretty weird to me too.
I don't think Holy is scum atm.
I'm not particularly partial to Steve's spam. 1/10 post he's made amount to anything to me.
That worries me.
MZ also had a few post I didn't like around this time.
But he shares a lot of the reads I have now.
So not sure if I just didn't like them because of the context, or because they were bad.
I'll have to read his filter later to decide.
I'd be fine with Vale lynch.
All the reasons already said by other people.
I'm totes a sheep if he becomes the lynch.
The whole Ceph case on ninjabunnies reads really awful to me tbh.
I mean I get what he's saying. But I have no idea why he believes that to be the case.
You're basing your top scum read on
"she didn't respond the way I expected town to respond."
"she didn't think like I think a town should of thought"
I mean your case isn't wrong per say.
But it is very bad.
Consider the player list of this game.
If you don't understand why someone responded/acted towards something you were trying to lay a trap for...
Umm I guess you might probably just go ahead lynching 1/3 of the player list.
Conclusion of your case means I should of been mislynched in 95% of the town games I've ever played.
Because I never make any sense..
Moving along,
Bunnies case on Thrawn is stupid and bad.
But it's not her fault really imo.
If I had never played with Thrawn I'd probably be suspicious of him too.
I mean this is probably why I'm eerie of Steve right now.
His play so far isn't something I'd call super for town.
But I have no idea what Steve's play looks like period.
Anyway, /end wallpost. I'll be around for a short while before bed. Hopefully I'll be up again early enough to chat with people before work.
Why would you be okay with Valenius lynch? Any original reasons? Sqrt, be my knight in shining armour. Travelling home now, so ill post properly in a bit. Fun fact: I took more toilet breaks than I ever have done at work before, just so I could semi-keep up with you all. Townpile Explain? Scum doesnt take bathroom breaks to keep up. Wtf? Why not? Because as mafia you can just say. Guys I have had to work all day, I couldn't keep up but here are some ideas of mine: "yabbayabbayabba". Clearly this guy is so determined to find mafia he hides with his phone on a toilet to analyze posts. Doesn't get more townie than that.
wtf
Don't set me unrealistic goals of actually analysing stuff.
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On May 22 2014 01:24 Holyflare wrote:
cav soooo angry this game
Just let him live to Day 2. plz.
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On May 22 2014 01:27 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On May 22 2014 01:25 OdinOfPergo wrote:
I'm just going to say I don't disagree with either of you here.
It's simple.
That comment might get me to re-evaluate my willingness to lynch Vale.
But it's only going to happen when he backs it up with actual results..
What's the problem here? Sure. We can wait. I was half-half making a joke with the townpile while think that post was pretty townie.
Please stop talking about my health conditions.
I'll be home in like 30minutes, so sometime after that i'll try form up something that isn't a shitpost.
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sqrt my man.
also im typing up a post, i havent forgotten all of you lovelies.
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On May 22 2014 03:32 sqrtofneg1 wrote:
Valenius, I would like to see your take on this.
On geript? I didn't think it was a joke, he realised he fucked up, ohshitshitshitshit, lynch steveling plz.
Fake claim from me.
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Onegu, that's terrible; Really hope it get's better quickly.
I'm not sure how many posts, and this applies for all of you 'vets', are serious and how many are little in jokes between yourselves.. so if I miss out something it's probably because i didnt want to make a read based on something that could be common in your games. Make sense? As always with me, i just read through filters. Backtracking thread is too hard.
So.. + Show Spoiler +
Yell0w.
+ Show Spoiler +Despite how much everyone seems to hate the whole RNGesus plan, his initial post on it was solid. It's misguided in that it would require everyone to take part.. which won't happen; but the theory is sound. It's easy enough for someone to test everyone else's post to make sure there's no tomfoolery occurring. Any switches (early or late) would draw suspicion. Somebody pulled him up on his switch to BH's plan 'with no posts in between', but that was bullshit. He'd been shown how it wouldn't work, so his switch was logical.
His first big post mostly makes sense. I agree with his points on RNG not being totally alignment indicative, and for me it's probably more like 60% town indicative. With most of the players in here, I don't think experienced scum would have much trouble causing a mislynch on day1. RNG is imo more likely to hit them than a lynch through the normal course of play - Unless they made a monumental slip-up.
Summary: Probably Town, like his thought process.
Blazinghand
+ Show Spoiler +Dude, drop the RNG. I was a believer, but it's not going to happen. Again, the logic behind it was solid (imo - see above), as is the setup talk and effectiveness of the scummers. The wording of this post was a little bit off to me: + Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 07:52 Blazinghand wrote:
Good point, also it doesn't matter, we need to kill them all. So are you on board, jampidampi? or are you busy thinking of another excuse not to lynch your scumbuddy odin? In the post he was replying to, i'd put the win condition was "Eliminate all Factions, which endanger town". The 'we need to kill them all' seems to have just ignored that. Not sure if slip, but thought i'd mention it.. 'when in Rome' and all. Overall: I don't like how you've continued pushing the RNG as it's getting to the stage where most are ignoring you, although If anything I think it makes you more town than scum at this point.
Alakaslam
+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +You know what stop putting Vaseline in your car and diesel does not improve your lips. Neither does motor oil work for lubrication of human anatom-
Actually, I am unsure of that
Anyway dat GASOLINE more specific than PETROL bro
Putting plastic in the car or what?
Loo
Heheh
Alyoominnium
If course to you we like a-LOO-minnum
sqrtofneg1
+ Show Spoiler +
Seems reasonably in line with newbie games i've played/obs'd with him, although slightly
Odd post time: "All other factions are anti town. That's confirmed." - Forgive me if I missed the page, but where was this confirmed?
Your vote on Holyflare was about as useful as my vote on Koshi.
+e$ports 20 for the recent geript comment.
Summary: Stay vigilant sqrt, newbie bro. These guys will promise you the world, and just end up taking your bottle-cap collection. (Probably town, but a bit too easily swayed)
Cavalinho
+ Show Spoiler +You could pretty much pull out in a black Ford Model 18 "V-8" (1932-1934)* and wave your tommy gun around and I still probably wouldn't lynch you today. You're a survivor Cav, I believe in you. * Thanks GQ slideshow Oh, actual 'analysis' time? + Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 14:12 Cavalinho wrote:Because he's scum. And also because he's trying to hide and he's posting a lot of questions aimed at making people feel superior. Hence, he is a mafia trying to get people to ignore him and blend in. I pretty much fully disagree. Steveling's done anything but try and blend in. The lover's tiff between him and Holyflare is one of the more dominant things that have happened so far. Maybe people will laugh, and maybe I'm overestimating the ability of some of you regulars/overusing my newbie reads, but it doesn't seem massively scummy. You haven't defecated today. Summary: Pale Mafia. A light shade of pink.
27ninjabunnies
+ Show Spoiler ++ Show Spoiler +On May 21 2014 06:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2014 06:27 jampidampi wrote:On May 21 2014 06:21 27ninjabunnies wrote:
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It's also obvious who are going to jump out in the front and try and lead town one way or another. We definitely have a mafia or two in the first couple of pages.
You sound confident, enough that I think you have your eye on someone already. Care to share as to who it may be? I may have my eye on a few people. From my experience, there are two type of mafia people: the lurkers, and the ones who like to ome out first day and take control of town. I'm focusing on the latter because they are the ones to likely talk more, you can easily find their slips (if any), and they are also more likely to last longer than the lurker mafia. I find the last sentence a little bit contradictory. If you assume that you're in a game with people who will catch slips most of the time, then surely the talkative slippy mafia wouldn't last longer than the lurkers due to the talkative slippy nature of themselves? I don't know, maybe it's just my interpretation of the line, and maybe im understating the {if any) part. + Show Spoiler +If I'm avoiding your question, it's because I have a pretty good damn reason as to why.
But because you are being persistant, the ones I have my eye on are Steveling, WaveofShadow and Tehpoofter. The fuck? It's early in the game, and there's pretty much 0 pressure on you to give out your reads to him. Saying you're then looking at them will surely change their behaviour, rendering the whole thing invalid? The whole post by matamburini is too big and had too many capitals, so I havent and probably wont read it.
Meapak_Ziphh
+ Show Spoiler +
You still have your vote on me, and i think you've spelled my name about 6 different ways. Apart from me, who do you think's scummy?
bkqyrldp
+ Show Spoiler +I don't have a clue what to expect from a 2-player player, but his post on how players enters the thread is alright. His quotes on jampidampi back this up. When the game started last night i couldnt really care, and i plan to return to that after this post for today. Previous newbie games i tried hard to analyse everything, and ended up being wrong and getting stressed, so it's carefree all the way for this game.
Erm, summary: Town.
Kitaman27
+ Show Spoiler +The heart post was funny, not much else in his filter. He hosted my first game, so I always thought he'd be super pro. Kita, warm my little heart and show me you're pro.
I'm bored now and hungry and i suck at analysis and nobody will probably read it ::longpost:: and all. back to short-shitposting for now. I'll talk about others tomorrow.
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mysterymeat1 are you alive
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