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On January 09 2014 04:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Corazon talks about some irrelevant misunderstanding and still refuses to tell me where thrawn's ultimate contributions to scumhunting were. Lynch with fire.
Yeah and I got baited into it.
On January 09 2014 03:57 justanothertownie wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 03:55 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:53 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 03:51 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:48 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 03:42 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 03:39 justanothertownie wrote:This is for rayn: + Show Spoiler +On January 08 2014 14:02 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 08 2014 13:57 wherebugsgo wrote:
IIRC yamato did a similar thing the last game I played with him, Smurf Mini. Although I don't know if it was because he was scum or busy or what (I assume a combination of both) but he lurked to the point where he got replaced, then his replacement won the game for him and his team basically. (not like the replacement really did anything either, though). On day 1 we almost lynched him, but switched and lynched someone else who happened to also flip scum.
We need to consolidate on yamato as long as he continues to be worthless. He's not completely useless as town and it's incredibly scummy for him to come back only when pressured simply to post one line and leave again.
As for Cora, if he routinely plays like this (something that I will try to confirm for myself later, probably early tomorrow when I wake up) then he's probably not scum since there are ways one can justify his play from a town perspective. It's hard, but doable. However he's still a reasonable alternate choice if something drastic changes with regards to yamato. I don't think this is a right way to go, because yamato already promised to contribute. When someone does that you leave them alone to make them feel comfortable (in case they are scum) and focus on other people. If yamato does not contribute, he claims scum and we can vote him at the end of the day.
If we vote for yamato now, regardless of his alignment, noone else is pressured and while townies should not stop contributing even when there is a clear thread sentiment that's unfortunately not the general line of thinking. Placing votes on yamato will kill the discussion to some extent, people are more likely to contribute if they are under pressure. yamato was already under pressure and promised to contribute, that pressure has achieved what it's purpose was. You are such a hypocrite. Do you know what you are doing here? No? You are doing exactly what I was doing in my little fight wit bugs. He voted Kush who was absent and did not want to go after and pressure or discuss anyone else and I tried to explain to him how it doesn't help and how we could still vote Kush later and kill him. Still you write this: On January 08 2014 13:06 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On a sidenote i love bugs, that's exactly how you play mafia and JAT and Corazon are being dumb. That does not mean they are scum though. Yeah... well how much did bugs contribute before I made him do it? Exactly. Funny how you call me dumb for getting him to do something but after our last game I won't consider this logic failures a scumtell for you. <3 You used this point against be as well iirc, and I showed hwo to me there was a definite difference between WBG's and your posting during that time. Why do you constantly find the need to come back to it? Because what both of you are saying is bullshit and I hate being misrepresented this way. But we can drop this if you want. I don't think stupidity makes you scum. Them's some harsh words JAT. Who are you voting again? Sue me. I think you know well that I am not voting anyone right now and I think you also know how this has nothing to do with this post in any way. No I actually was too lazy and absorbed in arguing with Cora to check atm, and had figured you had voted somebody at some point; couldn't remember. If I had known that, the question would have been (and is now) who would you like to vote? (As I am trying to steer a conversation from the stuff you feel we can 'drop' now to something mroe releveant.) I would LIKE to vote Kush but I have no idea about his alignment. I am undecided about the other wagons.
What is stopping you exactly from voting for him? Is it the potential for kush to flip town? Because if so I ask you: which of the current players who may be up for lynch would you not want at LYLO as either alignment? Chances are, given statistics and no VERY clear choice for lynch that we may very well lynch town today---I'd rather risk kush be town and removal a potential toxin from within our midst (who may very well flip scum as well).
At the very least if we don't lynch Cora/yamato/whoever we can READ them at some point.
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Every time Cora uses the word 'lie' it makes me want to rip my hair out.
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I'm taking a bit of a break from posting.
Will be back in a short while.
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On January 09 2014 05:24 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 05:05 yamato77 wrote:
WBG, I gauge reactions of the thread as town before voting. Your point is not alignment indicative. Sure, everyone gauges reactions, but the manner matters. Most townies will often confidently push their lynch, even if sometimes they are not truly completely confident, because if their argument is persuasive, then it will gain momentum on its own merits. I do not believe that you are an exception to this. You pushed a weak case on a player who was obviously not being suspected by many players, if any at all. That he was unsuspected was pretty obvious even though no one actually outright said so. As town, if I had a dissenting opinion and I thought it was important enough to vote the target more than 24 hours into the day I'd probably come back yelling at people to not become complacent and let someone like iamp slip through the cracks as "towny enough". Yet, you didn't do that. You even knew the vote wasn't valid and you didn't bother reaffirming it. A person's vote in the game is pretty much the only thing we can truly hold them accountable for, because regardless of what they say the vote is what ultimately matters. This is just basics, anyone who has played the game as much as you should know it. I don't think you're a bad player and thus the avenue you took regarding iamp is really scummy. For anyone who is interested, try reading these following posts and try to guess Yamato's alignment in each. I've pulled almost all of these from day 1s of games in an attempt to keep them mostly homogeneous, though they may come from games of different sizes and types. + Show Spoiler +yamato77 wrote:
I'm really only interested in figuring out the alignments of Marv and Hapa, because if they are town they will figure the rest of you out and we'll win the game. If they are scum we lynch them and the game becomes far easier to figure out. So forgive me for ignoring everyone else, my posts will be focused on them.
First of all, the way Marv entered the thread earlier today acting superior is a "holier than thou" attitude that I would not expect from town Marv towards two players he has played with so much in the past (Oats and myself). Mind you, his interactions with us basically served no purpose other than to establish his early activity, discredit my early vote, and to shit up the thread with Oats. He doesn't think either of us are mafia. Plenty of mafia motivation in his actions there. Since then, of course, he's been pro-town, but I know he's more than capable of that for at least a few hours.
What is even more perplexing to me is that Hapa, when questioned about the alignment of Marv, specifically said that this did not look like a "holier-than-thou" scum-Marv. If Hapa was town and Marv scum, he may be the only one well-versed enough in the wiles of mafia Marvellosity to truly push his lynch, but this shows that he's either not reading Marv very closely or has pre-decided what he thinks of Marv with some information from out of the thread. Either way, this is what a mafia Hapa would be like regarding Marv as either alignment. I may yet be wrong and this could be attributable to Hapa being up late and tired from all the awesome DotA we played, but it's something to note.
Aside from those interactions, I've yet to be particularly impressed by the scumhunting efforts of either player, but it is still in the first half of D1 and there is time yet to do better. Hapa going after debears was not what I usually see out of him as town.
If anyone wants to talk about the alignment of these two, feel free to respond. I will be on thread later. yamato77 wrote:
Mattchew, what exactly is a "sandroba type player" to you?
And how does he differ from Marv in the early game?
I agree that catching Marv early is hard, but I don't know how that makes him different from Sandro. Is sandro easy to catch as mafia or something?
Also, I don't understand how you think playing with the assumption that marv = town is a good idea. While he's often pro-town as mafia or scum, wouldn't you not want to let yourself be influenced by marv's opinions on the alignments of players if he is mafia? On February 15 2013 16:20 yamato77 wrote:
Let me walk you through my thought process on Zess, since that seems to be what people think I'm not explaining.
When someone starts the game as he did, voting a player under "random" pretensions, I immediately am inclined to think they're mafia. It's a very dumb way to look like you're playing around and being funny with the rest of town, when in reality you're starting what sometimes becomes a trend, establishing an early atmosphere of voting people on a whim, for almost no reason at all. It is in these types of environments that mafia thrive.
And indeed, it did turn into a trend as soon as he threw his vote on me for something completely townie, and barely justifying it. How is me trying to figure out people's alignments scummy? To be clear, when I "insinuated" that Mattchew/Syllo were mafia, I was in the process of attempting to get information that would lead me toward their alignment. i consider the possibility that they are mafia, because in some way, what they're doing could come from a mafia perspective. In fact, since that time, the information I've been able to ascertain has told me the opposite, they seem town.
Why does he want to paint me scum so quick for this? And indeed, when I indirectly ask about his read, he says he hasn't called me scum. What sense does this make? If anything, it only serves to strengthen my bias against him, that he's not playing to figure out my alignment, he's playing to stir shit up with me and fuck off with his reads. His other "reads" have been very noncommittal, especially with regards to Marv, where he says he "agrees with Toad" (who has voted for Marv) and then lists a whole bunch of reasons he isn't jumping on it. Waiting for the opportune moment, I presume?
Perhaps I haven't really explained myself thoroughly up to this point, but when you look at him from my perspective, Zess' play makes no sense for a townie. The fact that he's continued to be spammy and contentless since my early vote on him only serves to steel my resolve. Dude is mafia. Many of them only really make sense in context, though (the previous one might be one of those) With that said, check out his filter from this game as well: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=373946&user=yamato77&view=allNotice the tone, try to put yourself in the shoes of the player from both alignments. What makes more sense? The timestamps are also helpful, as they give an insight into activity level.
Can you just be the only person who posts for the rest of the game? This is so fucking refreshing to read.
/hops on WBG's dick
This is pretty convincing; that being said I get the feeling I've seen town yamato play this way before and I don't (think I) have the time or resources to attempt to pinpoint it right now. (Nor would I know if I'd even trust it cuz my meta use = ass  )
It seems yamato is up for a D1 lynch pretty often and I think personally every time I've ever seen him up for it he's been town (but shown a more impressive performance than this).
Yamato you say you're essentially too demoralized to play the way you normally would in this situation? Why exactly?
And also WHY EXACTLY is kush not being lynched?
He comes back, drops an excuse about being afraid of Rayn 'cause of Extractor trick (which is actually somewhat believable lolol) and yet here we are again, high and dry. Cora's 'policy' lynch is a close second because his mere presence seems to destroy the thread in unimaginable ways, but AT LEAST HE IS READABLE.
Can we please policy lynch kush so we don't have to attempt to figure him out? If we ignore his existence as WBG suggests we could very well lose the game----see Extractor trick.
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Also I'm mentioning this once again in case people forget about him: gumshoe is in this game (and sadly is probably town. Maybe he'll get modkilled.)
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On January 09 2014 05:43 kushm4sta wrote:
i promise meaningful activity tonight
Can you define this?
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There appear to be an awful lot of promises floating around.
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On January 09 2014 05:46 yamato77 wrote:
@WoS
Did you read Extractor?
That's why I'm demoralized.
I didn't aside from the business with Coag at the end. Anything in particular about it I should know aside from what is most likely the usual shit? (I mean, if 'the usual shit' is the problem here it's a wonder anybody plays mafia anymore because aside from Bugs' play I don't see anything here I haven't seen in 50 other games.)
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I don't feel nearly as good about lynching Cora for policy reasons than i do kush, so at the very least I'd like to try and come to terms with it if I'll be switching my vote or even better, actually determine if he is scum. (yeah I get that the shitposting would be toned down a little but again, knowing he's actually attempting to contribute and post, despite enraging so many of us makes it harder for me. By comparison kush manages to enrage me by barely posting/what little posting he does.)
What it comes down to for me is mainly his behaviour here. The weird tunneling and nitpicking of one particular thing and not letting it go, the almost intentional baiting/stupidity/lying...? If this is intentional then Cora is scum without a doubt. Like I said earlier somewhere though would a town Cora have gotten angrier? Shit things up even harder? Is he picking these fights on purpose and/or remaining...calmer and more measured than i would expect because of recent attempts to tone down his behaviour?
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On January 09 2014 06:16 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:57 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:53 wherebugsgo wrote:
wtf??
That's not how this game works. You can't just fucking lynch someone and then not accept that you messed up. No bugs, that's not how the game works. When a townie gets lynched it's their fault, not anyone else's. They were the scummiest person in the game because they had the most votes at the end of the day. holy fuck I can't tell if this is sarcasm or not this is jubjub level logic. This is how you'll never improve, if every time you lynch a townie you blame the guy for getting lynched instead of asking yourself why your goddamn read was wrong. I dunno, when i started playing mafia i read Palmar's comment on who to blame when a townie gets mislynched. I have been mislynched exactly 4 times in my ~55 town games, in 3 of them i basically intentionally killed myself because i did not want to play anymore and one time i could not convince the town i was town because someone made a case on me after i lynched mafia on D2 "you must be bussing, so we should kill you and then we should kill the mafia's counter-wagon, obviously you are both bussing, no other option kthxbye". I could not argue against that shitlogic because everyone in town used the same shitlogic. Whose fault? My fault. Sure, when you yourself analyze your own play you should ask yourself why you got lynched. The blame is not completely on one side or the other, but statistically speaking the onus should be on the voters because they carry more power than the single guy getting lynched. The guy getting lynched is one voice. It's one thing if the lynched player completely failed his own defense, but in retrospect you almost always have multiple townies on lynches. It's just the way the game works. Also Palmar is historically one of the few, if not the only veteran players on the forum that I know has that opinion. Any good mafia player will tell you to reevaluate your reads after the flip because playing the blame game when the flip happens is a good way to get the town into a downward spiral. You can't blame the player who got lynched because that does not accomplish anything and it does not change anything. Any effort gone into blaming the player would be much better spent actually analyzing what happened and what went wrong, and potentially any pushes from scum that helped cause the lynch in the first place. As a thought experiment think about what would happen if you have two players who are roughly equal at arguing against one another, but on opposite alignments. This actually seems to occur fairly often in games. I myself have been involved as scum in pretty tense lynch situations. In my first scum game, my team and I managed to prevent me from being lynched by one vote. In almost every other scum game I have gotten into a fight with another townie and successfully gotten him lynched, or helped my team lynch the main wagon (or even control the lynch completely by making only townies the suspects) by exerting my influence. In one game the lynch was between me+Radfield hydra and a hydra of sandroba and chaoser, IIRC, in which sandro+chaoser got lynched. Was it their fault for getting lynched? Definitely not, and I would say especially not given how hard I worked to get them lynched. This is a bit long-winded but my point is that scum strive for mislynches, that's how they win the game, so often when you have the urge to blame a townie you need to realize that there's lots of information even in a mislynch that will point to where you as an incorrect townie voter went astray and where scum capitalized on these mistakes to carry a mislynch through. The blame game only serves to hide this information so you'll be more likely to repeat yourself again come the next lynch. That's why saying things like "well, we lynch him, and then if we're wrong we just lynch someone else on our list" is fucking stupid, because it's just a very blind and irresponsible way to play the game
On this note, remember D1 Persona 4?
I blamed myself for part of it but as I recall you accepted part of it yourself which imo is how it should be.
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On January 09 2014 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't feel nearly as good about lynching Cora for policy reasons than i do kush, so at the very least I'd like to try and come to terms with it if I'll be switching my vote or even better, actually determine if he is scum. (yeah I get that the shitposting would be toned down a little but again, knowing he's actually attempting to contribute and post, despite enraging so many of us makes it harder for me. By comparison kush manages to enrage me by barely posting/what little posting he does.)
What it comes down to for me is mainly his behaviour here. The weird tunneling and nitpicking of one particular thing and not letting it go, the almost intentional baiting/stupidity/lying...? If this is intentional then Cora is scum without a doubt. Like I said earlier somewhere though would a town Cora have gotten angrier? Shit things up even harder? Is he picking these fights on purpose and/or remaining...calmer and more measured than i would expect because of recent attempts to tone down his behaviour? I'm not super confident on either side of the lynch, which is sad, but the lynch gives us more to work on than anything else. Supposing he is town, giving Cora time is probably not going to benefit us at all. In fact, the sooner we kill him probably the better at least for town atmosphere regardless of what alignment he is. on the other hand, giving yamato a day will almost certainly help us read his alignment better, and yamato isn't actively destructive to town. He at worst is about as bad as a scummy lurker-being hard to lynch through subpar activity as opposed to being destructive. And this is all, granted, from what I understand and have witnessed of his play as scum. As town I know he has the potential to be contributory, so assuming he can get over his demoralization he can definitely be an asset. If at the end of night and 12-24 hours into tomorrow he still continues his current trend we can just kill him then. 36 hours is a long time for things to happen, so many things can change by then.
Alright well this convinces me of Cora over yamato because you are certainly correct in giving yamato time is a wiser choice than giving Cora time, but what of kush?
What does giving him time accomplish?
(And again, to a lesser extent gumshoe at some point)
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On January 09 2014 06:37 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:28 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 06:26 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 06:19 WaveofShadow wrote:
I don't feel nearly as good about lynching Cora for policy reasons than i do kush, so at the very least I'd like to try and come to terms with it if I'll be switching my vote or even better, actually determine if he is scum. (yeah I get that the shitposting would be toned down a little but again, knowing he's actually attempting to contribute and post, despite enraging so many of us makes it harder for me. By comparison kush manages to enrage me by barely posting/what little posting he does.)
What it comes down to for me is mainly his behaviour here. The weird tunneling and nitpicking of one particular thing and not letting it go, the almost intentional baiting/stupidity/lying...? If this is intentional then Cora is scum without a doubt. Like I said earlier somewhere though would a town Cora have gotten angrier? Shit things up even harder? Is he picking these fights on purpose and/or remaining...calmer and more measured than i would expect because of recent attempts to tone down his behaviour? I'm not super confident on either side of the lynch, which is sad, but the lynch gives us more to work on than anything else. Supposing he is town, giving Cora time is probably not going to benefit us at all. In fact, the sooner we kill him probably the better at least for town atmosphere regardless of what alignment he is. on the other hand, giving yamato a day will almost certainly help us read his alignment better, and yamato isn't actively destructive to town. He at worst is about as bad as a scummy lurker-being hard to lynch through subpar activity as opposed to being destructive. And this is all, granted, from what I understand and have witnessed of his play as scum. As town I know he has the potential to be contributory, so assuming he can get over his demoralization he can definitely be an asset. If at the end of night and 12-24 hours into tomorrow he still continues his current trend we can just kill him then. 36 hours is a long time for things to happen, so many things can change by then. Alright well this convinces me of Cora over yamato because you are certainly correct in giving yamato time is a wiser choice than giving Cora time, but what of kush? What does giving him time accomplish? (And again, to a lesser extent gumshoe at some point) kush is like this literally every game regardless of his alignment. No one has bothered to provide opinions on kush aside from flaming him, whereas almost everyone in the game has commented on Cora at some point. Regardless of how he flips this gives us something to work with. In addition, I would say that Corazon has been around more often and actually been more detrimental than kush has. As for gumshoe at this point I don't even know if the mods will let him live. You can't read a player when they haven't bothered to play the game at all. Lynching them is worse than a coin flip. Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:31 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 06:27 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 06:22 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:50 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:44 raynpelikoneet wrote:On January 09 2014 05:24 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
In efforts to straighten this thread out from the shitflinging contest that it is: here are reads.
Corazon - Senseless, yelling at people, calling people scum. It's difficult to formulate a decent read on him without factoring in the douchebaggery involved. Do scum act like this often? Or is this something specifically attributed to Corazon? If anyone has a scum corazon game on hand I'd like to see it.
@Cora
I want you to calm down. Give us your top scumreads with 2-3 reasons why for each. Honestly the sense is just strew apart in the thread, maybe it's there if I can get a consolidated post. You've been a bitch to me already for no reason, and I have no problem lynching you. If you're town I want the best reads you can give me.
Yamato - I think he's town. Based on extractor I don't see a reason he cant be town here, and lynching him day 1 is probably a mistake.
JAT - leaning scum. When I was arguing with rayn about the semantic thing (which, by the way, people have to stop saying shit thats confusing) he jumped right on with a few posts to bolster the argument which was clearly false. I also didn't like how he fought with bugs about the kush thing. It also looks like he misinterpreted my-artanis interaction at the beginning of the day which didn't make sense to me.
Rayn - Probably town, though Idk what rayn scum looks like. He tunnels on cora and bullshits at him which is fine (well.. w.e.). I am really hesitant about listening to his reasoning after extractor.
Thrawn - looks town, would bang.
Artanis - Idk where the hell he went after voting me for crap reasons. Tunneled onto me for similarly crap reasons. Would lynch if anyone is down.
So right now I'm looking at JAT/Artanis or a policy of cora/kush. - Read on yamato is not a read. "I can't see why he can't be town" - Read on JAT is so bullshit it probably comes out of CC's ears. That's the worst reasoning for a read i have seen in this game because every single thing is so wrong. - Read on me is not a read. Discrediting me for bullshit reasons, i would have lynched mafia on D2 if idiots didn't hammer yamato. - Read on thrawn is bullshit. - Read on Artanis is bullshit because CC did scummy stuff, then Artanis called him out for it. After that CC changed his reasoning to something else, but later on went back to the original reasoning for no reason. It's just so stupid and every other post the reasoning for Artanis being mafia changes from one thing to another. Suppose we lynched Cheese. He flips town. What happens then? Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again. On January 09 2014 06:18 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 06:07 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 06:04 wherebugsgo wrote:On January 09 2014 05:59 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 05:56 wherebugsgo wrote:like seriously, I'm tempted to try to get you lynched for saying that, because that's literally what scum want to do. for clarity I'm talking about this post: On January 09 2014 05:52 justanothertownie wrote:
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Then his reads are still bullshit and we can start all over again. Someone's reads being bad or badly reasoned are not enough to call them scum and lynch them unless they have a history of being good AND if the reasoning is clearly bad despite there being good evidence for them to have good reads in the same situation. There are plenty of townies who don't often catch that many scum who often don't get lynched despite being called bad every game, because you don't just lynch someone for having bad reads. You also don't nonchalantly say that it's their fault for getting lynched after you fuck up and lynch them for the wrong reasons, cause it's the voters' faults. You asked a question and I answered it. If we lynched CC right now pretty much the only thing we would learn is his alignment. EXACTLY I'm trying to avoid frothing at the mouth at rayn's vote on CC for precisely this fucking reason. We don't achieve anything by lynching CC now, the vote is fucking wasted because we spent all day pressuring TWO OTHER PLAYERS. How do you people take so long to fucking understand this?? I've been saying we need to consolidate for over 12 hours now. The town has gone to shit because of the few players we have they are completely unwilling to listen and cooperate. Instead we have a shitfest like every other minute. Killing Corazon will probably rid ourselves of a significant amount of the shitposting, given that he's managed to piss off myself, rayn, WoS, and basically everyone else he's talked to. Killing kush would probably accomplish a similar thing but he's actually easier to ignore and harder to read. I don't understand you. You posted the question - I answered exactly the way you think yourself and I am scummy for it. uh what I didn't call you scummy. Your self fixation is starting to bother me a bit. What the hell man... I should have been clearer. I'd ordinarily call you scummy, but I was merely tempted because I think you just legitimately don't know better. What exactly don't I know better? You aren't making any sense. Okay, let me be blunt. Your play so far has led me to label you "dumb town". There are lots of things you've said that have led me to think you are town, but it's more because very few scum would be so careless as to say things so blatantly...well, scummy. If I had determined that you had that attitude based on an inference, e.g. reaction to a flip or something like that, rather than something you just came out and said, I'd be more likely to label you scum than bad.
But see that's my point regarding kush.
People haven't provided opinions on him BECAUSE he is like this every game----you can't provide a read on him or an opinion because there isn't anything you can use. Hence the decision to policy lynch him.
While I agree that Cora has likely been more detrimental to the game at this current point in time, will that remain so for the rest of the game?
For I think the third time I'll ask now---who would you rather have at LYLO? Kush or Cora?
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On January 09 2014 06:54 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 06:52 justanothertownie wrote:On January 09 2014 06:51 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I'd have kush. How come? Because you think you would be able to read him? Yes, and because i am confident i could get him to vote with me even if i could't read him.
And yet in a LYLO situation he may be the one you'd have to vote---how would you do that if you couldn't read him?
It seems as though I'm not garnering any support---policy lynch fails on TL surprise surprise.
I'm somewhat appeased by the fact that at least people seem to be pretty understanding of it this time around, and part of the reasoning for lynching Cora has policy underpinnings. It will be very nice indeed if Cora flips scum---would mean a detrimental presence is ACTUALLY anti-town for once. Don't know if I've seen that since BH in....LXI? The Game? I forget which.
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Oh I forgot.
##Unvote
##Vote: Corazon
About 20 min or so and then I'm gone until a little while after deadline.
Is there anything anyone wants of me before I go?
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Phonepostng
Not a scumclaim
Too lte tho
Ill explain later but it wont reallly matter
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Wow I was wrong...holy shit a D1 mafia lynch. I wouldn't have thought it possible.
I figured the scumclaim was just Cora acquiescing and pseudoclaiming knowing it might cause us to get really annoyed later when we saw him flip town---usually a scumclaim is more, I dunno jovial. He sounded depressed.
Whatever never been happier to be wrong, and I'm actually really relieved that Cora's shitting up the thread was a mafia tactic---no hard feelings I hope. GG WP.
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On January 09 2014 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hi WoS. I feel like the thread needs some fresh air.
Awww I was just gonna go all WTF on gumshoe trying to lump me into the same boat as him and fuba.
And it's funny because I still think fuba is town.
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On January 09 2014 12:27 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 12:21 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 12:17 thrawn2112 wrote:
Hi WoS. I feel like the thread needs some fresh air. Awww I was just gonna go all WTF on gumshoe trying to lump me into the same boat as him and fuba. And it's funny because I still think fuba is town. Wos, I swear, I literally have nothing on you XD I just feel your scum, dont hate me T_T
You gotta go on more than feels, bro.
You have no basis for calling me scum right now and it makes me sad 
Which of the people you've recently been talking about would you lynch if it were one hour from deadline D2 and why?
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On January 09 2014 12:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
At the beginning of all of this I thought gumshoe was scum, but now I don't know. He's displaying the normal townie traits of rudeness, stupidity, and tunnel vision.
well I literally have nothing nice to say, so I'll see you guys later
I'm pretty sure Cora displayed all of those traits throughout the game.
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On January 09 2014 12:32 gumshoe wrote:Show nested quote +On January 09 2014 12:30 WaveofShadow wrote:On January 09 2014 12:30 thrawn2112 wrote:
At the beginning of all of this I thought gumshoe was scum, but now I don't know. He's displaying the normal townie traits of rudeness, stupidity, and tunnel vision.
well I literally have nothing nice to say, so I'll see you guys later I'm pretty sure Cora displayed all of those traits throughout the game. Yeah, but thats not the reason Cora didn't vote for him XD
Sorry can you give me the abridged version of whats' going on between you and thrawn right now? I've been reading it but I don't think I've been following.
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