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VayneAuthority
Hopeless1der gets credit for this read. Based on my brief PM interaction with kush via PMs (link) and he how reacted to my policy push on him (link) I believe kush/vayne to be town. In general, kushm4sta seemed self-aware this game. He was/is actually concerned that people would lynch him just because I said so (huehuehue) and it's also worth noting that when he was banned his response was to make an account and come post here in the thread, rather than say, if he had a scum QT he would just post there. It looked like he was trying to demonstrate his playstyle to me in his posts-- whereas scum kush would have deflected, mocked, trolled. he made an accurate summary of his play in Extractor Trick, and was also correct.
Yamato77
Now, there's no love lost between me and yam this game. I thought his anger was fake, but after consulting with thrawn2112 who has logs with yamato, I conclude that yamato's anger was irrational and weird.
thrawn2112
I don't exactly remember all the stuff you said during D1 but iirc some of it was.... not what you'd expect a claimed mason to be saying? Also... I doubt he is serious. He's just being an asshole.
I thought yam was town early on, but once he disappeard I began to grow suspicious as I began developing more and more strong town reads. When he called me out last night I got on irc and talked to him for a good length of time, here are the logs:
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[23:39] <yamato77> except calling me scummy
[23:39] <thrawn> so they were kinda useless
[23:39] <thrawn> yeah but he wasn't insistent
[23:40] <yamato77> everyone kinda glossed over the fact that I was there
[23:40] <yamato77> I mean
[23:40] <thrawn> well tbh
[23:40] <thrawn> i've talked to a few people and your name is coming up
[23:40] <yamato77> he calls mewos mafia, yet "supports a Xata lynch"
[23:40] <yamato77> horeshit
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[23:42] <yamato77> REDACTED is just
[23:42] <yamato77> ugh
[23:42] <yamato77> like
[23:43] <yamato77> there's no reason for him to be town
[23:43] <yamato77> but would he REALLY be that oblivious as mafia
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[23:43] <yamato77> in thread
[23:43] <yamato77> you're posting like nothing
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[23:44] <yamato77> and you'r enot pming me
[23:44] <yamato77> then again no one is
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[00:22] <thrawn> he's done FUCK ALL
[00:22] <yamato77> like I said
[00:22] <yamato77> the lurkers
[00:22] <yamato77> I don't have the willpower to attempt to figure out
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[00:26] <yamato77> it seems like a lot of people did that
[00:26] <yamato77> and it just made it harder to find scum
[00:26] <thrawn> i think what happened
[00:26] <yamato77> for the people that were looking
I don't exactly remember all the stuff you said during D1 but iirc some of it was.... not what you'd expect a claimed mason to be saying? Also... I doubt he is serious. He's just being an asshole.
I thought yam was town early on, but once he disappeard I began to grow suspicious as I began developing more and more strong town reads. When he called me out last night I got on irc and talked to him for a good length of time, here are the logs:
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[23:39] <yamato77> except calling me scummy
[23:39] <thrawn> so they were kinda useless
[23:39] <thrawn> yeah but he wasn't insistent
[23:40] <yamato77> everyone kinda glossed over the fact that I was there
[23:40] <yamato77> I mean
[23:40] <thrawn> well tbh
[23:40] <thrawn> i've talked to a few people and your name is coming up
[23:40] <yamato77> he calls mewos mafia, yet "supports a Xata lynch"
[23:40] <yamato77> horeshit
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[23:42] <yamato77> REDACTED is just
[23:42] <yamato77> ugh
[23:42] <yamato77> like
[23:43] <yamato77> there's no reason for him to be town
[23:43] <yamato77> but would he REALLY be that oblivious as mafia
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[23:43] <yamato77> in thread
[23:43] <yamato77> you're posting like nothing
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[23:44] <yamato77> and you'r enot pming me
[23:44] <yamato77> then again no one is
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[00:22] <thrawn> he's done FUCK ALL
[00:22] <yamato77> like I said
[00:22] <yamato77> the lurkers
[00:22] <yamato77> I don't have the willpower to attempt to figure out
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[00:26] <yamato77> it seems like a lot of people did that
[00:26] <yamato77> and it just made it harder to find scum
[00:26] <thrawn> i think what happened
[00:26] <yamato77> for the people that were looking
Overall in the exchange yamato genuinely seems frustrated. I gotta say: yamato town even while being mad. Redactions by BH.
raynpelikoneet
I'm still being convinced of this, and this townread is based on what other people have told me more than on my own interactions with him. Why I think he could be scum:
Blazinghand: This is also partly why I'm suspicious of rayn. Also, about 2.5 hours ago, rayn and I had an argument in pms where rayn demanded my logs with hopeless1. I told him I couldn't share them due to some info in them we can't risk going to anyone but a confirmed town, and he didn't buy it. However, at that time we had already told marv the info that needed to be scum, and marv had told rayn that it existed. That means all of rayn's bullshitting around the thread was... fake? but it seems so obvious that it would be found out with a trivial level of coordination between me and marv.
I still don't have the timestamp for when marv told rayn, but it was definitely before 20 minutes ago in the thread when rayn was stomping around. The thing is, besides this little bit and a lot of anger against me that is reminiscient of classic "rayn fakes out of game things and emotional states when scum", rayn has been a strong town leader. what do you make of this information?
I still don't have the timestamp for when marv told rayn, but it was definitely before 20 minutes ago in the thread when rayn was stomping around. The thing is, besides this little bit and a lot of anger against me that is reminiscient of classic "rayn fakes out of game things and emotional states when scum", rayn has been a strong town leader. what do you make of this information?
Why i'd think he was town:
Original Message From thrawn2112:
I am not worried about rayn either, not at all. I can give you logs if you like, but I think this should suffice:
I think he's actually just that paranoid. The reason marv didn't trust you about the logs, is because you would only show marv the logs, which meant rayn thought "why only marv?!? is marv scum!???"
quite insane, but pretty townie
I am not worried about rayn either, not at all. I can give you logs if you like, but I think this should suffice:
I think he's actually just that paranoid. The reason marv didn't trust you about the logs, is because you would only show marv the logs, which meant rayn thought "why only marv?!? is marv scum!???"
quite insane, but pretty townie
sec for post on who is scum
