EPTbtw i am high and tired so idc and I don't want to decide right now. will see you all later
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btw i am high and tired so idc and I don't want to decide right now. will see you all later | ||
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On November 07 2013 17:52 Onegu wrote: Then they become null. Maybe slightly townie and I eat my hat. Pretend hzflank somehow flips green right now. Do you keep your vote on rayn on not? | ||
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rayn stfu. i'm asking onegu what he would do with his vote if somehow you died and flipped green right now | ||
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On November 07 2013 18:07 Onegu wrote: That wouldnt matter rayn is connected to hz but not the other way around. Hz is still scummy without rayn saveing him. ok so why are you not voting for hz? based on the answers you've given me just now it seems like hzflank would be your safest bet, no? and the rest of your filter looks like the filter of a guy who would always be voting hzflank over rayn. On November 07 2013 17:50 Onegu wrote: Scumteam The only question I really want answered is why are you voting for rayn over hzflank? I'm gonna lay out a time line of your filter... You start off by attacking one of hzflank's posts. In your next post you policy-vote him because of his "jerk" comment. I didn't like the way that argument felt, it didn't feel "real" but at the time I didn't think much about it besides asking ET what he thought about it (which btw, he pretty much brushed me off.) After this you eventually unvote hz but continue pointing out problems with his play. (at some point you ask rayn a single question but I did not find it significant) Right before your self-vote you called out hzflank as your #1 scumread. You gave rayn a null read later in that post when you said that everyone you didnt mention is null. So far there's no indicator that you think rayn is scummy. After the lynch you keep saying hzflank is one of your big scumreads and you get into a conversation with rayn where you defend yourself for a few posts but still show no indication that you thin rayn is scummy. I read no paranoia about rayn's alignment in those posts on page 3 of your filter where you are defending against rayns questions. You do mention him here as potentially scummy: On November 07 2013 12:24 Onegu wrote: This is such BS I played that game well, I made this one slip at the end and then worked my way out of it to not get lynched. And In hogwarts the only person with a scum read on me was the vigi and mostly because I had a red check. When people call me scum for BS meta usally flip scum (ie FirmTofu in persona) 2 people have done it so far this game sn0 and now rayn. However, that is a very weak accusation. It's more passive aggressive shitflinging than it is a real accusation. Then all the recent stuff happened... this is the important part that all you tldr's shouldn't skip On November 07 2013 12:49 Onegu wrote: Why were you down my lynch you only mentioned me marytring and never said how that was alignment indicative. On November 07 2013 12:59 Onegu wrote: I really dont like this post either, looking at this some of the votes on you did make sense. Your vote on umasi early was forced imo. The second part I dont understand at all, ok he agrees with you on somethings, why does that make him have to have a town read on you when he disagrees with you on other things. it looks like onegu is building up to make a case on hzflank, who has been at the top of his scumreads all game long..... On November 07 2013 13:08 Onegu wrote: Also look who saved HZflank. It looks kinda innocent, but its not. He doesnt change his vote right away he just kinda throws it out there. I think scum were kinda forced to do it also, so before you say it was a risky play, he doesnt unvote, he just throws a innocent looking play out there, and which is more risky letting a scum lynch go through and let town keep 3 blue roles for 2 straight nights. Or subtlely try to change the lynch target and see if anyone latches onto it? ##VOTE RAYN then this! You vote rayn because he's probably hzflank's scumbuddy based on the hzflank>gumshoe swithc, even though you've never hinted at being at all suspicious of rayn? yes, you have that one remark about sn0 and rayn I quoted, but that is nothing compared to the posts and posts and posts you've written talking about how scummy hzflank is. So why are you voting rayn? I say it's because mr townie posts-a-lot WoS is going to be pushing rayn hard this cycle. | ||
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On November 07 2013 18:49 Onegu wrote: Because Im 85~% sure they are both scum and want to get rid of the dangerous one first. and there is no way for me to verify this because you never said you thought rayn was scum until you voted for him. the only reasoning you gave in that post was that thought he was saving hzflank, which doesn't count as reasoning because it could be applied to so many other people just as senselessly. and this is after talking about hzflank all game long. it just doesn't make for a believable story. | ||
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On November 07 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you have anything to say about Onegu? he doesnt imo it's syl/ongeu/et | ||
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On November 07 2013 20:43 raynpelikoneet wrote: Do you have anything to say about Onegu? look at syl's reply On November 07 2013 20:41 Sylencia wrote: ##Vote Cephiro Hopeless is someone I'd be wanting to lynch too because it's rather easy for him to worm his way out if he's scum from the mess ET left for him. It's pretty vital that that is kept in mind during the course of the day. Easy enough, nothing's changed since my post about him. OO's reads were pretty close to what I had as a list when he was alive too. In terms of what's happened during Day 2, stop trying to get at each others throats and go for the more probable targets. Rayn train is dumb imo, he's still townier than a lot of others. -could lynch hopeless -people aren;t going up for the probable targets during d2 the serious targets mentioned so far have been rayn onegu and et but they aren't "probable" and the only one he bothers mentioning is rayn? sylencia why are you dismissing the onegu and hopeless lynches even though you yourself said you could lynch hopeless? | ||
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also i am spartacus witch hunter you should shoot me | ||
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if scum know if OO got elected then they know how many blues are still in the game which helps them with their risk/reward decision of whether or not to shoot really though I'd rather be talking about the lynch. can you say more than what you've already said? | ||
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On November 08 2013 03:40 Sn0_Man wrote: I like the points against onegu, Syl's vote was WTF, my current biggest concern is that you are still alive. While I agree with (almost) all the things you say you being alive is giving me misgivings because I would have expected you to die. you are giving me too much credit. i'm usually never nightkilled till like d3-ish Which is why I'm trying to figure out what happened last night since if OO was a blue shot then I can believe that you were targetted but saved for example. That would give me more confidence in your reads. Vets who push a mislynch D1 then go "WHOAH COMPLETE 180 ON MY READS GUYS" and are still alive D2 smell funny to me. I agree with your points but hnnnnng smells funny. So I'm looking for certainty there. There are 2 1-shot witch hunters read the OP lol. [/QUOTE] ok well fuck me then ... idk... currently i'm waiting for people to start talking before I care | ||
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especially when you voted for him last cycle and there are clearly other people in the game who want that slot dead my vote is going for onegu/hopeless/sylencia this cycle. they can work out which of them gets it | ||
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On November 08 2013 11:23 Umasi wrote: so I think that onegu is town, purely by feel, and would rather see votes on other people. I had a good feeling about hz at the end of d1, but since then it's been *shrug*, will keep relatively close track of koshi. Kinda leery of hopeless/et atm, but not that much. Not sure about rayn, but there are other people I prefer to lynch. I have sylencia as town still, but I've kind of slept on him for a while. I still like a vanesco lynch, can we lynch him? He says that he thinks both sno and I are scummy, but doesn't pursue it at all, he just addresses why thrawn ISN'T listed. feels like he was throwing something out there to throw something out there. 'I dislike meta talk' proceeds to talk about meta ##vote: vanesco Hello Umasi. Can you go into your feel read on Onegu? And can you explain about Vanesco some more? I wouldn't lynch him for any of the things you talked about, they are pretty insubstantial imo. | ||
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On November 08 2013 11:52 Umasi wrote: they sure are fricken weird! then again, I'm the poster boy for vanescos guiltiness. (I'll consolidate again vote wise, but he never became my not #1 scum read, and largely little has happened regarding him.) regarding onegu, the entire fuck it attitude out of the thread day one and self vote, specifically, makes me read him as town, because in my limited experience with him, he'd try much much harder as scum. He has played through more dire circumstances (and somewhat successfully) than this, so it'd be weird for him to just up and quit as scum. idc if there's a precedent for the self VOTE, but it's more than that, it's just his capitulation felt premature, more premature than scum onegu would do. then again, I've only played one game with him where he was scum, sooooooooooo maybe I'm wrong! just my thoughts. If he's scum he could still easily have been telling the truth about being in the hospital. IMO that part is not alignment indicative. The self vote is weird but.. does he really stand to lose anything by doing it as mafia? First, people are gonna call him town for it, second it doesn't really do much because I don't think he was in any danger of being lynched (at least not enough danger for martyrdom) and I'm not really feeling that he truly thought so either. It would have been a pretty safe thing to do as mafia. | ||
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