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On November 03 2013 04:49 Vonthin wrote:
What are your thoughts on OWB and Poofter currently
Just read his OWB filter. Has yet to post today as well
OWB i'd lynch him today.
Defends Nyx for bad reasons imo on day 1.
So maybe they are linked. Votes of him and Nyx kinda link up on E00e.
However
On November 02 2013 04:52 onlywonderboy wrote:
I know Balla just said to stay focused, but I want to make sure we don't let Vonthin slide under the radar here. We have plenty of time before the next lynch so we can focus really heavily after Day 2 starts
In regards to Vonith, he has been mentioned a few times but never really put forward as a scum candidate. I realize I haven't been the most active poster, but Vonthin has managed even less content and less pro town information. He pushed e00 when he was the main lunch target but then suddenly changed his mind and decides he "wasn't the best target." This was right before the vote train on July had started on July. I realize Vonith had mentioned July as a scum candidate, but his read didn't say anything else that hadn't been said already. All that means is that he was comfortable joining the July train. Then he said he wasn't to hear from Odin before the July lunch through. Seems like he would have been totally okay jumping on that train as well had it gotten going.
So Vonith has sheeped on almost every read and hasn't contributed any original content. Seems pretty scummy to me.
That being said, i do like this post. The intentions behind it.
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On November 03 2013 05:12 Balla24 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 03 2013 05:05 JonnyLaw wrote:
There isn't necessarily a mafia role blocker, correct? No... however it is very likely, especially considering I was roleblocked. You need to drop this now...
I see no reason to lynch balla to see if he was actually role blocked...
could he be mafia saying this? sure
could he be town saying this? sure
Him flipping would tell us quite a bit regarding if a mafia has a role blocker. I see no point lynching him today, to see if he lied about being role blocked. This information will be available to us when balla flips regardless. He is being far to active in this game while we have far to many inactive players to even consider lynching him today.
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On November 03 2013 05:19 cakemanofdoom wrote:
Storr thoughts on poofter? vonthin asked you about him too.
nothing yet... doing some other stuff atm ill get back on him latter. happy to see the thread picking up though
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@balla really... your not a person to be lynched today, why are you freaking out
as i said I SEE NO POINT IN LYNCHING HIM (balla) TODAY
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On November 03 2013 05:27 Balla24 wrote:
But you're looking at situations, what's the point of doing that ??? ESPECIALLY if i'm not a lynch candidate.
So I'm not allowed to look into the situation? I don't' see that in the rules.
again balla, stop freaking out.
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just throwing it out, i haven't reread tehpoofter filter yet, but i'd probably lynch him today.
only 2 pages shouldn't take that much time when im done with my calls to check him out
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@tehpoofter why did you go on july, when Cake had all ready cast his vote on july? If you think cake is scum did you think it was a bus? I know its hard to answer that question after the fact when it is clear that july was town. How come you didn't' express your concern more about cake while voting on july?
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After finishing tehpoofter filter, yet another person who has yet to contribute to today.
I actually don't' want to lynch him. I really liked the pressure he put on cake as well as his reasoning. my only problem, was he followed cake, to vote july. I feel if he was town he would have expressed more concern with following his #1 scum read onto the july vote. Honestly this is the biggest scum feeling i get from tehpoofter. If i take that out, i read him fairly town.
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well cake... got some more questions? want to make some opinions of your own now?
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well i won't answer for balla, as to why he claimed.
If i got / get RB i would claim it.
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For now i'd lynch nyx, owb
and i have far more people leaning town, who i wouldn't be interested in lynching today
obzy
balla
jonny
odin
Vonthin
tehpoofter
null on
cake
E00e
i don't think i missed anyone..
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Its funny, i didn't actually realize how much "pressure" was coming my way till these past few hours.
leads me to believe more that nyx is scum and trying to slide under the radar when pushing the vote on me
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i have given my reasoning behind all those listed. i however just posted the list because i had been asked. it wasn't just a blind list with out any reasons what so ever.
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well except why cake went down to null
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odin, that was kinda my point with my post. so you actually do agree with me...
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RB stuff about you that odin said.
he said he "didn't agree with me" but he actually does since we are on the same page.
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@odin, cause i am willing to rethink how i feel about a person if they post..? I'll refer to day 1, i said i could switch, but imo a better lynch did not show up / gain traction (instead july took off)
as for why a town would rb balla? idk. but my point stands that with this set up it could have happened. no reason to grill me for bringing it up... If you believe bella's claim, then imo you pretty much treating him as a confirmed town. I personally can't say im willing to treat him as a confirmed town just cause he said he got role blocked.
again.... i never wanted to lynch balla today. i only explained what would happen if we did...
i haven't answered any of the questions brought up to me? are you kidding me? i spent so much time yesterday answering questions yesterday. Now i am willing to call that a blatant lie from you odin. Maybe you need to reread the past few pages since you hadn't been online.
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honestly odin, you just dropped a bunch of points for no reason...
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Pushing nyxnyxnyx to lynch
##Vote: nyxnyxnyx
1. latches on to vote me (after others r wexpressed concerns about myself)
2. says he will not change vote no matter what. (so basically if it comes down to lynching someone else, and 1 more vote is needed, he will not move no matter what.)
3. Has not contributed anything today besides his attack on myself
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On November 02 2013 16:36 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
i think it was something i read in the quicktopic about how we should think about why people say the things they do, rather than the things they actually say. you seem ok, not quite sure how to put it in words.
He doesn't actually explain any of this. This is the "reason" for voting me. Which makes absolutely no sense.
5. He has no read on me the first cycle. the only convo we had was about myself calling him inactive, and he was saying he had improved since his last game and that it was "relative" I will not buy this poor excuses. For apparent lack of involvement in this game. As well as his sheeping reads.
6. Like to end with his first point on his attack against myself
vote has popular traction and is likely to take off without dividing town opinion
"Vote has popular traction" no one has voted me besides nyx. People have voiced their concerns about myself yes.
Why does he bring it up as a reason for himself to vote me? I'll tell you, because he is sheeping. He also says "likely to take off without dividing town opinion" Why would this be a good thing? I'll tell you its not. Town having a different views on players is good. When flips happens we learn information. If everyone wanted to vote me off, and it happened. When i flip town what does that tell town? Nothing since everyone pushed on me.
So now i ask the rest of town. Why would you want a player like this in your game? Why would you want this inactive sheeping player that adds nothing to town. This play feels like mafia to me, and I want to remove it.
His filter from last game..
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=430766&user=nyxnyxnyx
Yes low post count
However i feel his reads are actual reads, and not just sheeping. (at least one he states "I don't actually think istandwithmitt is mafia, although he is a bad poster." ) He has some passion in his defense. He shows concern about the set up and game ending too quickly. and at one of his lasts posts before dieing " i have no idea who the fuck is town or scum, just not me."
he feels like a different player this game, still shrouded in "inactive/few posts" but the ones he does have vs last game read different to me.
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@cake you wanna add anything original to your opinion on me? other wise your just sheeping....
Odin really only made 2 points on me. And the largest one, and most vocal point he was making was the RB crap, which he miss read. And the other yelling at me because i might change my vote, which i shot down.
Cake you got nothing, your trying to frame me up right now and i don't like it.
And btw, i'm sorry if im not answer everyones questions that are sent my way. A lot have been sent, and its easy to miss.
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