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Thepoof why do you want to lynch Pandain & Oak and Pandain first? | ||
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On October 31 2013 18:42 Tehpoofter wrote: Because its part of Grack's master plan of course. More seriously I'm not comfortable putting up a vote for either currently and want to see how the day plays out more because as of now I don't have any good reads. Cool, but GUN TO YOUR HEAD, KILL SOMEONE OR YOU DIE WHO DO YOU PICK! | ||
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On October 31 2013 22:00 JarJarDrinks wrote: Hey all. First off I'll add my name to the very much against random lynching list for the exact reasons Oats posted. Also, I'm suspicious of the people pushing for it. Most notably hzflank because he only said he was for it after people brought it up. Like, even though it's only a 30% chance, if I'm scum and someone talks about random lynching my first thought is probably something like "Oh god, what if one of us gets chosen? There'd be nothing we could do." So he makes his post saying he'd be for a RNG lynch to show everyone that he's not afraid of it. Even going as far as sayingHow in the world could his odds actually be worse than random? Even if he had no scumhunting skill whatsoever, it would be @ worst equal to random. Jarjar doesn't bring up anything new but just says he's against randomlynching, However most of the post is just fluff about what rng-lynching is to make it seem like his saying more then "Yeah I agree". And it's very certainly fluff because he doesn't reach a conclusion with it. It's scummy to try to make yourself look more townie then you are. His hzflank vote is really weak. He says he wants to lynch hzflank for being one of the rng-supporters but provides no reasoning other then that others seemed to lynch him. It's a very un-townie park-vote. He's still not contributing but just talking about rng-lynching trying to make supporters look scummy for supporting it. | ||
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On November 01 2013 01:53 JarJarDrinks wrote: What do you mean I don't bring up anything new? I'm the first person to bring up that supporting RNG lynch is scummy. Whether or not you agree w/ it, it's something new. And who really cares if I brought up something new? I commented on the main topic of conversation. And what exactly do you mean by "he doesn't reach a conclusion with it"? What conclusion could I have reached? No, oats said why we shouldn't rng. You just talked some general reasoning for why scum/town would or wouldn't want to rng. You said townies shouldn't want to do it and that scum wouldn't want to do it. A lot of people were confused to what you actually ment. And that was because you didn't type it with any conclusion in mind. You could had reached a conclusion by for example saying. I believe scum wouldn't do this because the risk it pose to themselves are high, so rng supporters are town. or I believe townies wouldn't do this because it's bad play so rng supporters are scum. Regardless if what you choose is true or not picking one side means you believe in it or are pretending to believe in it. Picking neither means you're full of fluff. But fine, so what do you mean by rng is scummy, which was what you were first to bring up?, Is it that it is bad townplay and scummy because of it. Then how was it you and not Oats who brought that up? | ||
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On October 31 2013 23:19 Laughing Jack wrote: I believe scum wouldn't do this because the risk it pose to themselves are high, so rng supporters are town. or I believe townies wouldn't do this because it's bad play so rng supporters are scum. Those were examples on how to have a conclusion and not my thoughts. I know well they are not black and white, and both teams might support rng for different reasons. It gives town nothing to bring it up if that's what you're going to say. Like saying, "mkfuba could be scum... but he could also be town" -Wow I contributed. | ||
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What do you two think about the current votes? | ||
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On November 01 2013 16:22 Grackaroni wrote: I don't really like your vote and I think you should vote Oats, who is coincidentally my top scum read. It's all in the filter. I wanted you to answer the questions that wasn't in your filter, the others were examples. Sorry I expected you to figure that out by yourself, should I assume you didn't because you're lazy or because you genuinely didn't figure it out? Can you get back to me on the other topics. Like if you had the power to select three people that everyone had to vote between, who would you pick? I am contributing, I just shut down something that could had become ten or more pages of nothing concrete, you're welcome. And the very post you're commenting on is trying to generate discussion. You on the other hand. Your biggest impact on this game have been getting randomly generated to be lynched. And I'm starting to think Oats will be a good lynch for today. | ||
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Cool, and why would you want to see them spotlighted over others? I think Odin is a terrible pick really. Since he's not been around, why did you pick him? | ||
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On November 01 2013 17:52 Grackaroni wrote: Because he's active in another game and still hasn't shown up in this one. Alright, well I'm starting to agree with you on Oats, I think it's a pretty bad sign, that after I came and broke up your attacks on him and asked him to talk about something else he didn't, but has just been hanging around doing nothing. Which indicates he's pretty content with doing nothing as long as he doesn't need to defend himself. | ||
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On November 01 2013 19:18 Oatsmaster wrote: SO I CAN HAVE A READ ON YOU. Do you insist on being as infuriating as possible? Do you know how to play the game? At this point, I dont think so. Well here is the thing, I've asked you questions, and your response have been "I'm not going to answer those why don't YOU answer them yourself. And then I said that your behaviour was suspicious and you say, What about YOUR behaviour? See a pattern? Maybe you don't. You seem pretty slow since you think what you're making is actually legit arguments. Your behaviour is suspicious and when I called you out for it, you just got mad and attacked my behaviour. I don't understand how you think that my play justifies yours? The only motivation I can conclude from that is that your goal is to blend in, and as a scum thinking you're blending in you actually don't understand why you look suspicious. | ||
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On November 01 2013 19:37 Oatsmaster wrote: What questions? I dont see anything. On November 01 2013 16:12 Laughing Jack wrote: Your sacrifice is noted, What do you two think about the current votes? On November 01 2013 16:18 Laughing Jack wrote: No, Are you happy with them? Do you think anyone's vote suck, do you think my vote suck? How would you like the votes to be, who do you want pressured?, is Pandain really your top scumread? Plenty to talk about. | ||
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On November 01 2013 18:05 Laughing Jack wrote: Alright, well I'm starting to agree with you on Oats, I think it's a pretty bad sign, that after I came and broke up your attacks on him and asked him to talk about something else he didn't, but has just been hanging around doing nothing. Which indicates he's pretty content with doing nothing as long as he doesn't need to defend himself. | ||
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On November 01 2013 19:39 Grackaroni wrote: Yeah I'm ok with getting rid of Laughing Jack. This might be difficult for you but try to use your head. I'd love to hear what kind of backwards logic makes you want to lynch me. | ||
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On November 01 2013 19:48 Grackaroni wrote: You can be useless or an ass but you just can't be both. I'm not being an ass, I just don't have the patience to babytalk people who refuse to use their heads. But is that the reason you want to lynch me? Because then I think you just promoted yourself to worst player in the game. | ||
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On November 01 2013 19:47 Oatsmaster wrote: ohhhh I thought you were asking those to Grack. On November 01 2013 16:12 Laughing Jack wrote: Your sacrifice is noted, What do you two think about the current votes? I can understand how you would think that since this is clearly directed to Grackaroni alone But even if you missed it it doesn't matter too much to my point, because even if I hadn't asked you that question, you still didn't take the opportunity to do anything pro-town by yourself. And you're not a newbie so you know well that's what's pro-town to do, and that's what I expected from you when I made Grack back of. There could had been reasons for why you didn't. Like you were tired of the game after the Spamfest with Grack and didn't feel like inquiring. or That you busy doing something else. But if that was the case I don't understand why you wouldn't had just said so which makes the conclusion that you were here but had no motive to further the town. | ||
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On November 01 2013 19:53 Grackaroni wrote: Consider it an useless ass policy lynch. Trust me, that's going to be a thing! You can call me an ass which might be true to some extent but if you think I'm useless your brain isn't working for you. also it's kind of hypocritical to talk about others policy lynching when you're a candidate for one-line spam policy-lynch. Which unlike being an ass, is actually detrimental to town. I really hope you don't plan to keep one-liner posting all through the game. You will make the game near unreadable at some point. | ||
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On November 01 2013 20:04 Oatsmaster wrote: Did I post after you called Grack off me? Like one post maybe. Yeah maybe I couldnt post. Huh. Think about that. You're probably syllo. Even in your defence you're not even saying that you couldn't post, you're just wifoming that you might not had been able to post without actually claiming that you couldn't post? Seriously. And yeah, you posted, (there was about a one hour gap (which is not a lot of time) and since then you've been around regularly. | ||
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On November 01 2013 20:16 Oatsmaster wrote: So LJ, who do you MOST want to die today? If the deadline was right now, Hzflanks or you Oatsmaster. They are the flips who right now would give us information whom I'd feel comfortable lynching. But it's hard to say who I want dead tonight since half the players in the game have barely participated and I hate lurkers. There is hopefully an increase in activity before tonight. | ||
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On November 01 2013 20:35 Oatsmaster wrote: Grack, none of those reasons make Jack scum, they may make him an asshole and bad but not SCUM. You have to say why he is scum because he does all these things. Jack, can you elaborate on your Hzflank read cause I think he is leaning town for me. I picked him because his flip would generate most information and discussion. I'm interested why you have a green read on him. | ||
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On November 01 2013 21:02 Laughing Jack wrote: I picked him because his flip would generate most information and discussion. I'm interested why you have a green read on him. To elaborate. hzflank hasn't done enough to make me lean town or scum on him. Early on cases are generally weak and when the majority of the players gives very little to go on it's better to lynch the person who will give us most information going into day2. | ||
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On November 01 2013 21:36 JarJarDrinks wrote: Dude, ur all over the place. Do you not have a scumread on me anymore? Did grack change your mind? I think trying to claim false towncred is suspicious. It's not something I come around about. However I reconsidered lynching you today since you might just be newbie-town and you're at least somewhat active. | ||
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On November 01 2013 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote: So how would lynching hzflank and him flipping town give us information and lynch scum day 2?. So far nobody that wants to lynch for information has ever given me a good answer. He can flip scum too, which obviously is better then a townflip. It's hard to get information day 2 from a townflip since anything a townie can do technically a scum can also do but over time it usually becomes more apparent who has an agenda. And if you have to lynch for information it's better to lynch someone many have interacted with then someone few have interacted with. If there is a scum case I agree with of course I would rather lynch that scum. But now there wasn't | ||
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On November 01 2013 22:47 Oatsmaster wrote: So are you lynching him because he is scum, or are you lynching him because regardless of the flip, he will provide info. Info that I have no idea about. That so far you have adequately explain. I'll try to break it down as simply as I can. If you lynch a scummy player you have a higher chance to lynch mafia then if you lynch a nonscummy player. If you lynch a player many players have interacted with, knowing his alignment gives generate more information then knowing the alignmentof a player few have interacted with. This can very roughly give you these scenarios ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/xo4RyB1.png) what you do then is compare the factors. (A) How much higher chance does 'wherebugsgo' have to flip mafia then 'marvellosity' and (B)How much more information will lynching 'wherebugsgo' provide compared to lynching 'marvellosity' if the difference in (A) is marginal and the difference in (B) is significant it's better to lynch the person that will generate most information from (B). | ||
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I'll be reading some filters and be back with who I want to lynch. | ||
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On November 03 2013 23:15 JarJarDrinks wrote: ##Vote Laughing Jack I've been saying all game that his posts have no consistency. Totally abonding his scumread on me for what seemed like no reason. Speaking of which:OK, this post was after he already said that he didn't want to lynch me anymore. He had already posted his diagram and had said that he wanted to lynch HZ or oats. So when I read that he's going to a party and will try to find some corner to read and vote, doesn't that sound like there's a chance he wont make it back to the thread? So why wouldn't he move his vote off of me and on to someone he does want to lynch just incase? I think that if fuba wasn't threatened, we would have never seen LJ again last night. It's not a coincidence that he managed to find time to vote right when Fuba pulled into a tie w/ HZ. And that doesn't even mention the fact that he said he wanted to vote a lurker in that post and voted the super active guy. You're absolutely atrocious, read Oats filter and tell me I'm his scumbuddy. | ||
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On November 03 2013 22:38 Mig wrote: Where is Stutters? He has been AWOL for quite awhile now. What are your reasons for voting Bereft LJ? I am on board with the idea that most of the mafia team are probably lurkers. Mafia has been incredibly demotivated the entire game. Reading mkfuba's basterd game he at least put some effort in as mafia, this game he didn't try whatsoever and just let himself die without putting up a fight. Oats also did absolutely nothing all game. It makes sense that they wouldn't be motivated to try if their teammates were afk/about to be replaced. I went over nearly everyone l don't lean townie on and with Bereft I couldn't find the slightest thing to make me feel he's town. | ||
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On November 03 2013 23:52 Laughing Jack wrote: I went over nearly everyone l don't lean townie on and with Bereft I couldn't find the slightest thing to make me feel he's town. If it's a bit unclear. Bereft is the only one without a single townie looking post. | ||
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##Unvote: ##Vote: Asinine | ||
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He's posted nothing concrete, done no scumhunting, no redeeming interaction with/from Oats or Fuba and he threw away is vote. + Show Spoiler [Final Vote count] + Vote Count Oatsmaster (0): Pandain (2): hzflank (4): JarJarDrinks (0): mkfuba07 (7): hzflank, Pandain, Grackaroni, OdinofPergo, JarJarDrinks, Stutters695, Tehpoofter However It's just about impossible that Asinine is town. He's done no scumhunting except for the case he did on me, which was the worst most half assed I've read in this game. His scumhunting posts looks like they come from someone who've briefly read the thread a single time and from there formed opinions. It's absolutely impossible that he could had legitimately believed this if he had taken 15 minutes to go over it. On November 03 2013 06:36 Asinine wrote: Persons of Interest: Tehpoofter Laughing Jack Bereft Oatsmaster OdinOfPergo Stutters695 Yes, I know this is basically a list of lurkers. However, I believe that the majority of scum does lie in this group(outside of hzflank). Addressing hzflank: Let's be real. The lynch of mkfuba kinda/sorta clears hzflank a little bit. I don't think it would be wise for us to pursue a lynch of him at this juncture. I know I pushed him throughout Day 1. I've changed my mind. I'm not putting throwing out the possibility of him being scum. It's just probably less likely because of how the flip turned out. Tehpoofter: Very short filter. Votes fuba after Stutters, making his vote unnecessary. May have been an attempt to gain towncred after the flip if he is scum. Most of his posting seems to be fairly unreadable/non-alignment indicative. I would like to go into depth about justifications for the vote on fuba. I want to point out a few things. See bold. 1) Here we can see a type of apathy that is reminiscent of scum play. He is saying that he doesn't care who is lynched. 2) The rest of the post is completely irrelevant to the most pressing matters at hand. First, he apologizes for his poor activity. Then, he starts talking about Grack/Oats who he believes are both town. Consider the circumstances. Many town members were engaging in a heated debate about whether fuba or hzflank would be the best lynch. Tehpoofter waltzes in, places a vote that amounts to nothing, and talks about unrelated shit. Advice: Consider lynching tomorrow. I'll post my other reads soon. The only motivation he could have to post such useless inaccurate thoughts is because he promised to get back with something more. His "Please vig me" was a nice charade but ultimately we can see now that there was nothing behind it. If Asininie is town I'll eat my hat. | ||
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On November 04 2013 03:30 Grackaroni wrote: Would you post a picture of said aforementioned hat eating on ms paint? Yes. | ||
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Bereft doesn't sounds like a girl-id so he shouldn't assumed she was a she. | ||
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If Asinine is town, what has he been doing? | ||
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If you're town, why are your reads so useless and shallow? Why haven't you been active? That you defended fuba is scummy, and yes scum does that and use the exact argument you're using to play it off. if you don't want to die you're going to put in some serious fucking effort today. | ||
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On November 05 2013 02:56 Asinine wrote: This is clearly a matter of opinion on your part. My reads haven't been useless or shallow. If I recall, you too thought hzflank was scum on Day 1. Is it not hypocritical of you to vote someone who has agreed with you for the majority of the game? I've already explained my lack of activity. What is with these questions? Are you trying to antagonize me? These questions serve no purpose. Of course I won't think my reads are useless or shallow. That is a presumptuous bait. It really isn't a matter of opinions. Link me one case you've done you put work into. Just now you just posted without any reasoning a list of 7 people you think could be scum. Nice job to narrowing it down. Your reads have been useless and shallow and every word other you post makes it obvious you're not reading the thread. Even though you appear to be useless at this game I think you can do better (Which is not a high bar). So the reason you haven't is because you haven't cared to. And since it's impossible to tell the alignment of a person who doesn't care we're going to lynch you and if you flip town we'll curse our misfortune for having an imbecile like you on the team. We can afford to take that risk. | ||
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Thanks for great hosting, I enjoyed the game despite the low activity. | ||
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