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On October 31 2013 23:09 Grackaroni wrote:
You do realize you can't just lynch people because others support it right? OK. You also cant lynch people without other people supporting it.
On October 31 2013 23:09 Grackaroni wrote:
The only reasoning you have given is that hzflank was the 3rd person to say yes to random lynch, thus he was pretending to agree with it to show that he is not afraid. I'm sorry. Do you have a better reason for the people you've voted for?
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On October 31 2013 23:23 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 23:09 Grackaroni wrote:
You do realize you can't just lynch people because others support it right? OK. You also cant lynch people without other people supporting it. Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 23:09 Grackaroni wrote:
The only reasoning you have given is that hzflank was the 3rd person to say yes to random lynch, thus he was pretending to agree with it to show that he is not afraid. I'm sorry. Do you have a better reason for the people you've voted for?
You can make others support it.
Not particularly no. I am worried though that this may be your vote for the cycle.
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On October 31 2013 23:19 Laughing Jack wrote:
I think we should be one Jarjar less at the end of this day.
##Vote: JarjarDrinks
care to elaborate?
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Oatsmaster (1): Grackaroni, Oatsmaster
Pandain (1): Grackaroni
hzflank (1): JarJarDrinks
JarJarDrinks (1): Laughing Jack
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On October 31 2013 22:23 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 21:30 Stutters695 wrote:On October 31 2013 14:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I liked it too. Its not really defense, more like a running commentary. Stutters, are you gonna call anyone town? A running commentary doesn't make it town commentary. In what ways does his post even attempt to help town? Each section of his post starts out ok, but he keeps bringing it back to how it's early, it's the best he can do, etc. That's obvious when it's only a few hours into d1 and implies he's guilty about something and I don't like it. I'll call someone town when someone gives me a reason to. Why don't you give me a reason?  Not every post has to 'help' town. How does you saying you want to lynch me and Grack help town? It doesnt. Are you scum?
Generates discussion in the early hours of the game.
There is also a huge difference between early game banter and a calculated defensive post.
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I want to know why there are experienced players advocating a RNG lynch over a lurker lynch. Have you guys given that any thought. If so what makes you prefer a RNG and if not why haven't you?
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This whole game is lurkers lol
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On November 01 2013 00:53 Grackaroni wrote:
This whole game is lurkers lol still didn't answer his question. Why would an RNG lynch be better than a lurker lynch?
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On October 31 2013 22:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:
if I'm scum and someone talks about random lynching my first thought is probably something like "Oh god, what if one of us gets chosen? There'd be nothing we could do."
Yet the post of mine that you quoted shows clearly that my first thought on random lynching was: “But what if scum decides the supposedly random number?”.
Also, I did not actually advocate a random lynch. I thought it would be pretty obvious that I was against a random lynch when I said that we should all just stop posting for 45 hours (because if we do not have to vote on a lynch then we don't get the good discussion).
On October 31 2013 23:01 JarJarDrinks wrote:
Seemed like there's a decent amount of support for a hzflank lynch
Why is that relevant to your vote? Would you not have voted for me if there seemed to be no support for it?
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On November 01 2013 00:55 JarJarDrinks wrote:still didn't answer his question. Why would an RNG lynch be better than a lurker lynch?
Because it can't be influenced by scum giving us good odds. That is the reason why statistically day 1 RNG lynches come out more successful than analysis.
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Though TL probably should policy lynch more often.
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On October 31 2013 23:49 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 23:19 Laughing Jack wrote:
I think we should be one Jarjar less at the end of this day.
##Vote: JarjarDrinks care to elaborate?
On October 31 2013 22:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Hey all. First off I'll add my name to the very much against random lynching list for the exact reasons Oats posted. Also, I'm suspicious of the people pushing for it. Most notably hzflank because he only said he was for it after people brought it up. Like, even though it's only a 30% chance, if I'm scum and someone talks about random lynching my first thought is probably something like "Oh god, what if one of us gets chosen? There'd be nothing we could do." So he makes his post saying he'd be for a RNG lynch to show everyone that he's not afraid of it. Even going as far as saying Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
I would think my chances of actually identifying scum on day one are less than 31%, therefore RNG would yield better results for me. Ofcourse, We would need to decide on who rolls the dice. How should we do that? I suggest we vote on it. How in the world could his odds actually be worse than random? Even if he had no scumhunting skill whatsoever, it would be @ worst equal to random.
Jarjar doesn't bring up anything new but just says he's against randomlynching, However most of the post is just fluff about what rng-lynching is to make it seem like his saying more then "Yeah I agree". And it's very certainly fluff because he doesn't reach a conclusion with it. It's scummy to try to make yourself look more townie then you are.
His hzflank vote is really weak. He says he wants to lynch hzflank for being one of the rng-supporters but provides no reasoning other then that others seemed to lynch him. It's a very un-townie park-vote.
He's still not contributing but just talking about rng-lynching trying to make supporters look scummy for supporting it.
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given that activity is low, it generates discussion by putting someone in the hot seat, forcing them to defend themselves while at the same time forcing the rest of town to interact with said individual. in this game it's worth at least some consideration since not only are there more scum but the set up discourages bussing to an extent. I'm not advocating a blind lynch - it's not a 31% chance that we lynch scum but a 31% chance that we pressure scum day 1.
##Vote: Pandain
@JJB your case on hz hinges on the fact that he is the scummiest person to have suppprted RNG and you expect scum to have split their opinions on this issue. if that's the case, who's the scummiest person NOT supporting RNG, because by your logic at least one person against it must be scum.
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I really dont like that vote from JJD. He seems to want to vote Hzflank because other people also think he is scummy, caring more about the appearance of the vote more than voting for scum, as well as incidental totally useless stuff like And like, the way I see it, when there's something that people need to take a stance on, very rarely will all the scummies end up on the same side of the issue. So I think there's a real good chance that one of the pro-RNGers is scum.
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On November 01 2013 01:12 hzflank wrote:
Why is that relevant to your vote? Would you not have voted for me if there seemed to be no support for it? Possibly not. If I thought someone was scummy but I didn't think there was any chance that person could get lynched then I probably wouldn't waste my vote there.
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On November 01 2013 01:13 Grackaroni wrote:
That is the reason why statistically day 1 RNG lynches come out more successful than analysis. Is this a fact?
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On November 01 2013 01:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:13 Grackaroni wrote:
That is the reason why statistically day 1 RNG lynches come out more successful than analysis. Is this a fact?
The best stat I found in a quick look is that in a normal mini game, town gets lynched 78% of the time on day one. Considering that in a normal game around 75% of players are town, that does not surprise me.
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On November 01 2013 01:24 Laughing Jack wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 23:49 Grackaroni wrote:On October 31 2013 23:19 Laughing Jack wrote:
I think we should be one Jarjar less at the end of this day.
##Vote: JarjarDrinks care to elaborate? Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 22:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Hey all. First off I'll add my name to the very much against random lynching list for the exact reasons Oats posted. Also, I'm suspicious of the people pushing for it. Most notably hzflank because he only said he was for it after people brought it up. Like, even though it's only a 30% chance, if I'm scum and someone talks about random lynching my first thought is probably something like "Oh god, what if one of us gets chosen? There'd be nothing we could do." So he makes his post saying he'd be for a RNG lynch to show everyone that he's not afraid of it. Even going as far as saying On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
I would think my chances of actually identifying scum on day one are less than 31%, therefore RNG would yield better results for me. Ofcourse, We would need to decide on who rolls the dice. How should we do that? I suggest we vote on it. How in the world could his odds actually be worse than random? Even if he had no scumhunting skill whatsoever, it would be @ worst equal to random. Jarjar doesn't bring up anything new but just says he's against randomlynching, However most of the post is just fluff about what rng-lynching is to make it seem like his saying more then "Yeah I agree". And it's very certainly fluff because he doesn't reach a conclusion with it. What do you mean I don't bring up anything new? I'm the first person to bring up that supporting RNG lynch is scummy. Whether or not you agree w/ it, it's something new. And who really cares if I brought up something new? I commented on the main topic of conversation.
And what exactly do you mean by "he doesn't reach a conclusion with it"? What conclusion could I have reached?
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On November 01 2013 01:44 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2013 01:13 Grackaroni wrote:
That is the reason why statistically day 1 RNG lynches come out more successful than analysis. Is this a fact?
It says so in the TL Mafia Database.
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On November 01 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:I really dont like that vote from JJD. He seems to want to vote Hzflank because other people also think he is scummy, caring more about the appearance of the vote more than voting for scum, as well as incidental totally useless stuff like Show nested quote +And like, the way I see it, when there's something that people need to take a stance on, very rarely will all the scummies end up on the same side of the issue. So I think there's a real good chance that one of the pro-RNGers is scum.
Would scum, knowingly voting for someone to look good, openly state that they're placing the vote because many others appear willing to do so?
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