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Tehpoofter
Profile Joined October 2013
United States2911 Posts
October 31 2013 03:07 GMT
#101
EBWOP: Oat* Not Oak
Asinine
Profile Joined October 2013
Qatar66 Posts
October 31 2013 03:10 GMT
#102
On October 31 2013 12:07 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 11:53 Asinine wrote:
Hello comrades. I will be doing an ASA (Ask Smurf Anything) today. It starts now. I cannot guarantee that I will answer any questions that seem to be fishing for my real TL account.


What is Qatar like?

Another thought elicits it's
familiars
Crowding their weight into the
chamber
Of my weary, doleful mind

What right does he possess
To exhaust my idle time
By way of his enslaving image.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2013 03:13 GMT
#103
On October 31 2013 12:10 Asinine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:07 Pandain wrote:
On October 31 2013 11:53 Asinine wrote:
Hello comrades. I will be doing an ASA (Ask Smurf Anything) today. It starts now. I cannot guarantee that I will answer any questions that seem to be fishing for my real TL account.


What is Qatar like?

Another thought elicits it's
familiars
Crowding their weight into the
chamber
Of my weary, doleful mind

What right does he possess
To exhaust my idle time
By way of his enslaving image.

I have come to the conclusion that this man is Palmar.
There will be no further questions!
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2013 03:15 GMT
#104
On October 31 2013 12:07 Tehpoofter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 11:56 Grackaroni wrote:
I had planned to catch the Oatsmaster unawares and kill him before he knew what hit him. Then lynch Pandain Day2.


I like the plan but one suggestion Pandain day 1 Oak day 2

I really would prefer to stick to my master plan. Not that I'm defending Pandain or anything. He's also a total scummer. We'll kill him day2 unless something pertinent comes up. How much could change between now and then?
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 31 2013 03:24 GMT
#105
grack, if you really wanted to throw weight behind that vote, why not at least RNG it? instead of picking your favorite singaporean, that is. which has tons of favoritism bias. since we have extra mafia this game, RNG gives us a 31% chance of hitting scum, instead of the typical ~25%. we're all reasonable and rational people here, logic appeals to us [i'd hope].
On October 31 2013 12:13 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:10 Asinine wrote:
On October 31 2013 12:07 Pandain wrote:
On October 31 2013 11:53 Asinine wrote:
Hello comrades. I will be doing an ASA (Ask Smurf Anything) today. It starts now. I cannot guarantee that I will answer any questions that seem to be fishing for my real TL account.


What is Qatar like?

Another thought elicits it's
familiars
Crowding their weight into the
chamber
Of my weary, doleful mind

What right does he possess
To exhaust my idle time
By way of his enslaving image.

I have come to the conclusion that this man is Palmar.
There will be no further questions!

no, i want to ask a question -- why does pandain only get to ask one.
asinine, what's your reason for smurfing? i can think of only 2 reasons. which one is yours:
[a] you have a reputation known throughout the land of being an excellent scum hunter, and you don't want to die night 1.
[b] you believe your meta is so obvious people would be able to read your play day 1.
[c] other (please expand)
Asinine
Profile Joined October 2013
Qatar66 Posts
October 31 2013 03:29 GMT
#106
On October 31 2013 12:24 Bereft wrote:
no, i want to ask a question -- why does pandain only get to ask one.
asinine, what's your reason for smurfing? i can think of only 2 reasons. which one is yours:
[a] you have a reputation known throughout the land of being an excellent scum hunter, and you don't want to die night 1.
[b] you believe your meta is so obvious people would be able to read your play day 1.
[c] other (please expand)

Meta is the only reason why anyone smurfs. I hope that answer is sufficient.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2013 03:37 GMT
#107
On October 31 2013 12:24 Bereft wrote:
grack, if you really wanted to throw weight behind that vote, why not at least RNG it? instead of picking your favorite singaporean, that is. which has tons of favoritism bias. since we have extra mafia this game, RNG gives us a 31% chance of hitting scum, instead of the typical ~25%. we're all reasonable and rational people here, logic appeals to us [i'd hope].
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 12:10 Asinine wrote:
On October 31 2013 12:07 Pandain wrote:
On October 31 2013 11:53 Asinine wrote:
Hello comrades. I will be doing an ASA (Ask Smurf Anything) today. It starts now. I cannot guarantee that I will answer any questions that seem to be fishing for my real TL account.


What is Qatar like?

Another thought elicits it's
familiars
Crowding their weight into the
chamber
Of my weary, doleful mind

What right does he possess
To exhaust my idle time
By way of his enslaving image.

I have come to the conclusion that this man is Palmar.
There will be no further questions!

no, i want to ask a question -- why does pandain only get to ask one.
asinine, what's your reason for smurfing? i can think of only 2 reasons. which one is yours:
[a] you have a reputation known throughout the land of being an excellent scum hunter, and you don't want to die night 1.
[b] you believe your meta is so obvious people would be able to read your play day 1.
[c] other (please expand)

Those are some pretty good odds. I'm not against RNG if people are up for it.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
October 31 2013 03:53 GMT
#108
On October 31 2013 12:37 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:24 Bereft wrote:
grack, if you really wanted to throw weight behind that vote, why not at least RNG it? instead of picking your favorite singaporean, that is. which has tons of favoritism bias. since we have extra mafia this game, RNG gives us a 31% chance of hitting scum, instead of the typical ~25%. we're all reasonable and rational people here, logic appeals to us [i'd hope].
On October 31 2013 12:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 12:10 Asinine wrote:
On October 31 2013 12:07 Pandain wrote:
On October 31 2013 11:53 Asinine wrote:
Hello comrades. I will be doing an ASA (Ask Smurf Anything) today. It starts now. I cannot guarantee that I will answer any questions that seem to be fishing for my real TL account.


What is Qatar like?

Another thought elicits it's
familiars
Crowding their weight into the
chamber
Of my weary, doleful mind

What right does he possess
To exhaust my idle time
By way of his enslaving image.

I have come to the conclusion that this man is Palmar.
There will be no further questions!

no, i want to ask a question -- why does pandain only get to ask one.
asinine, what's your reason for smurfing? i can think of only 2 reasons. which one is yours:
[a] you have a reputation known throughout the land of being an excellent scum hunter, and you don't want to die night 1.
[b] you believe your meta is so obvious people would be able to read your play day 1.
[c] other (please expand)

Those are some pretty good odds. I'm not against RNG if people are up for it.


I would think my chances of actually identifying scum on day one are less than 31%, therefore RNG would yield better results for me. Ofcourse, We would need to decide on who rolls the dice. How should we do that? I suggest we vote on it.
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
October 31 2013 03:53 GMT
#109
On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Why label Stutters as town


As a conversation starter. Up until that point only little blue men were being discussed and I am unable to partake in that discussion to to my unfamiliarity with big green or red men. Obviously I did not think that Stutters' post gave a clue to his alignment, but I may not of conveyed the tone correctly.

On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
and leave the thread?


Due to Stutters reply. As you begin to read his post he appears to care about what I said, then when you get to the end I realised that he does not care. There was no reason to continue that line of conversation with him and I had nothing that I wanted to post, so I decided to spare the poor tl.net servers the effort of adding another one of my posts for a short while.

On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Your post serves no greater purpose other than to gain Stutters' support.


But my post gave you something to post about and in turn gave me something to post about. Now I can wonder why you commented on my post twice even though that you thought my post had no purpose. You might be mafia looking for something to post about, but obviously this early in the game there is no real need for that. You may be town attempting to move a conversation forward. Or perhaps you genuinely thought I had a clue as to Stutter's alignment two hours into the game when only five people had posted, and felt the need to call me out on that. Either of those possibilities fit in with your second post.

On October 31 2013 12:07 Asinine wrote:
Looks like he didn't even gain Stutters support... Regardless, hzflank does not look good right now.


The (rhetorical) question is: did you post that for the sake of posting something? Or did you post that hoping that I would reply directly to you? Or did you post that because when you were reading the thread for the first time you were already looking for scum, and my post was the only thing so far that looked like it might be scum?

I have no flipping idea, but less than five hours into the game and when I am tired, that's the best that I can do at the moment.

On October 31 2013 10:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Why so srs?


Oh, you wanted me to be less serious? Oops
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 31 2013 04:05 GMT
#110
On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:37 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 12:24 Bereft wrote:
grack, if you really wanted to throw weight behind that vote, why not at least RNG it? instead of picking your favorite singaporean, that is. which has tons of favoritism bias. since we have extra mafia this game, RNG gives us a 31% chance of hitting scum, instead of the typical ~25%. we're all reasonable and rational people here, logic appeals to us [i'd hope].
On October 31 2013 12:13 Grackaroni wrote:
On October 31 2013 12:10 Asinine wrote:
On October 31 2013 12:07 Pandain wrote:
On October 31 2013 11:53 Asinine wrote:
Hello comrades. I will be doing an ASA (Ask Smurf Anything) today. It starts now. I cannot guarantee that I will answer any questions that seem to be fishing for my real TL account.


What is Qatar like?

Another thought elicits it's
familiars
Crowding their weight into the
chamber
Of my weary, doleful mind

What right does he possess
To exhaust my idle time
By way of his enslaving image.

I have come to the conclusion that this man is Palmar.
There will be no further questions!

no, i want to ask a question -- why does pandain only get to ask one.
asinine, what's your reason for smurfing? i can think of only 2 reasons. which one is yours:
[a] you have a reputation known throughout the land of being an excellent scum hunter, and you don't want to die night 1.
[.b] you believe your meta is so obvious people would be able to read your play day 1.
[c] other (please expand)

Those are some pretty good odds. I'm not against RNG if people are up for it.


I would think my chances of actually identifying scum on day one are less than 31%, therefore RNG would yield better results for me. Ofcourse, We would need to decide on who rolls the dice. How should we do that? I suggest we vote on it.

BH suggested a pretty good method in the recent heavyweights game.
On October 02 2013 09:10 Blazinghand wrote:
For RNG, this post will be used for generating a random lynch. The # in the upper left corner can be right-clicked and used to access the absolute TL post # for this post. That number mod 9 is the random lynch. 1 =Oats, 2 = rayn, etc, all the way up to 8 = holyflare and 0 = sloosh.

The reason we use the absolute TL post number is that posts are constantly being made, so the number is truly random. We turn it into a number 1-9 by taking that number mod 9. What is mod? effectively, it's the remainder after division. For example. 10 mod 9 = 1. 11 mod 9 = 2. 18 mod 9 = 0. 19 mod 9 = 1. and so on.

Basically, this generates a random number 1 through 9. I am in favor of the random lynch (though am somewhat interested in a policy lynch today as well-- TL does not do this enough. I will start off by voting for the random lynched based on THIS POST.

On October 02 2013 09:11 Blazinghand wrote:
19886995 mod 9 = 1. That's Oatsmaster.

##vote Oatsmaster

i suggest we use that very method and use THIS POST.

i've got to get to bed though, someone who's around mind calculating it?
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
October 31 2013 04:19 GMT
#111
20103741 mod 14 = 7 = Pandain.

I guess we can all stop posting for the next 45 hours.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 31 2013 04:30 GMT
#112
Stutters post about lynching me or Grack is really odd. He doesnt explain why our posts are weird and seems to be just throwing unfounded suspicion on everyone.
No gg, No skill.
Asinine
Profile Joined October 2013
Qatar66 Posts
October 31 2013 04:31 GMT
#113
Bereft, I want to know how exactly you arrived at the 25% number. Scumhunting will increase odds of hitting scum to a percentage far greater than that. Please explain.

On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Why label Stutters as town


As a conversation starter. Up until that point only little blue men were being discussed and I am unable to partake in that discussion to to my unfamiliarity with big green or red men. Obviously I did not think that Stutters' post gave a clue to his alignment, but I may not of conveyed the tone correctly.

Your post:
On October 31 2013 09:31 hzflank wrote:
Stutters posting when he does not have to is a town Stutters.

It is quite apparent that you were trying to bait Stutters into posting. This is not what I take issue with.

My issue is that your first post is stated as a fact and an imperative.
In other words, you are essentially saying that Stutters should post -- when he doesn't have to -- and you will automatically consider him town. Now this may not be what you wanted to say, but it is exactly what it sounds like you are saying to any third-party.

"Come out to play, Stutters! If you post a lot, I won't think you're scum."

I don't see much town motivation in this strategy. Yes, you may get Stutters to post a little more. This, in theory, should give you town cred. However, you are quite clearly choosing one of the most obvious lynchbait targets to talk about on Day 1. Additionally, after Stutters reply, you just disappear with no follow-up. When you return, you make a lengthy post that focuses on defending yourself. There is a wishy-washy accusation towards me, but it is weak and unsubstantiated.

You are also strong-arming Stutters to play a particular way that could make his meta harder to read in the long run. All in all, I am still unimpressed with you. Convince me otherwise.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 31 2013 04:40 GMT
#114
Random lynching is bad and lets not do it.
If we hit scum, great, but then what do we do on day 2?
If we hit town, fuck, but then what do we do on day 2?
Yeah sure we have a 30% chance of hitting scum, but we also have a 70% chance of hitting town, Would you lynch someone who you think is 70% town? I dont think so.
No gg, No skill.
Asinine
Profile Joined October 2013
Qatar66 Posts
October 31 2013 04:42 GMT
#115
On October 31 2013 13:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Random lynching is bad and lets not do it.
If we hit scum, great, but then what do we do on day 2?
If we hit town, fuck, but then what do we do on day 2?
Yeah sure we have a 30% chance of hitting scum, but we also have a 70% chance of hitting town, Would you lynch someone who you think is 70% town? I dont think so.

This man speaks the truth. Give this man an Oscar.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 04:51 GMT
#116
On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Why label Stutters as town


As a conversation starter. Up until that point only little blue men were being discussed and I am unable to partake in that discussion to to my unfamiliarity with big green or red men. Obviously I did not think that Stutters' post gave a clue to his alignment, but I may not of conveyed the tone correctly.

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
and leave the thread?


Due to Stutters reply. As you begin to read his post he appears to care about what I said, then when you get to the end I realised that he does not care. There was no reason to continue that line of conversation with him and I had nothing that I wanted to post, so I decided to spare the poor tl.net servers the effort of adding another one of my posts for a short while.

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Your post serves no greater purpose other than to gain Stutters' support.


But my post gave you something to post about and in turn gave me something to post about. Now I can wonder why you commented on my post twice even though that you thought my post had no purpose. You might be mafia looking for something to post about, but obviously this early in the game there is no real need for that. You may be town attempting to move a conversation forward. Or perhaps you genuinely thought I had a clue as to Stutter's alignment two hours into the game when only five people had posted, and felt the need to call me out on that. Either of those possibilities fit in with your second post.

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:07 Asinine wrote:
Looks like he didn't even gain Stutters support... Regardless, hzflank does not look good right now.


The (rhetorical) question is: did you post that for the sake of posting something? Or did you post that hoping that I would reply directly to you? Or did you post that because when you were reading the thread for the first time you were already looking for scum, and my post was the only thing so far that looked like it might be scum?

I have no flipping idea, but less than five hours into the game and when I am tired, that's the best that I can do at the moment.

Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 10:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Why so srs?


Oh, you wanted me to be less serious? Oops


I really want to lynch you when I wake up...

This is the most over-explanatory and unnecessary defense I've ever seen. Feeling defensive cause you're scum?
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2013 04:58 GMT
#117
On October 31 2013 13:51 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Why label Stutters as town


As a conversation starter. Up until that point only little blue men were being discussed and I am unable to partake in that discussion to to my unfamiliarity with big green or red men. Obviously I did not think that Stutters' post gave a clue to his alignment, but I may not of conveyed the tone correctly.

On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
and leave the thread?


Due to Stutters reply. As you begin to read his post he appears to care about what I said, then when you get to the end I realised that he does not care. There was no reason to continue that line of conversation with him and I had nothing that I wanted to post, so I decided to spare the poor tl.net servers the effort of adding another one of my posts for a short while.

On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Your post serves no greater purpose other than to gain Stutters' support.


But my post gave you something to post about and in turn gave me something to post about. Now I can wonder why you commented on my post twice even though that you thought my post had no purpose. You might be mafia looking for something to post about, but obviously this early in the game there is no real need for that. You may be town attempting to move a conversation forward. Or perhaps you genuinely thought I had a clue as to Stutter's alignment two hours into the game when only five people had posted, and felt the need to call me out on that. Either of those possibilities fit in with your second post.

On October 31 2013 12:07 Asinine wrote:
Looks like he didn't even gain Stutters support... Regardless, hzflank does not look good right now.


The (rhetorical) question is: did you post that for the sake of posting something? Or did you post that hoping that I would reply directly to you? Or did you post that because when you were reading the thread for the first time you were already looking for scum, and my post was the only thing so far that looked like it might be scum?

I have no flipping idea, but less than five hours into the game and when I am tired, that's the best that I can do at the moment.

On October 31 2013 10:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Why so srs?


Oh, you wanted me to be less serious? Oops


I really want to lynch you when I wake up...

This is the most over-explanatory and unnecessary defense I've ever seen. Feeling defensive cause you're scum?

I liked it.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
October 31 2013 05:05 GMT
#118
I liked it too. Its not really defense, more like a running commentary. Stutters, are you gonna call anyone town?
No gg, No skill.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9846 Posts
October 31 2013 05:11 GMT
#119
I just didn't at all get the impression that he cared too much about his image from that post.
Laughing Jack
Profile Joined September 2012
Finland50 Posts
October 31 2013 09:35 GMT
#120
Stutters why do you want to wait until you wake up you manipulative puppeteer! What's wrong with immidiately?
Thepoof why do you want to lynch Pandain & Oak and Pandain first?
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