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On October 31 2013 13:40 Oatsmaster wrote:
Random lynching is bad and lets not do it.
If we hit scum, great, but then what do we do on day 2?
If we hit town, fuck, but then what do we do on day 2?
Yeah sure we have a 30% chance of hitting scum, but we also have a 70% chance of hitting town, Would you lynch someone who you think is 70% town? I dont think so.
I don't think that random lynching is a good idea either. 70% of the games we play would be a bad play and as someone who likes numbers this comes off as WAY too bad of an idea when there can be more logical reasons generated from a flowing conversation but in the days beyond as well..... Although I will admit the math behind making a random lynch is fun and would be cool to try out if we run into a stalemate.
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On October 31 2013 18:35 Laughing Jack wrote:
Stutters why do you want to wait until you wake up you manipulative puppeteer! What's wrong with immidiately?
Thepoof why do you want to lynch Pandain & Oak and Pandain first?
Because its part of Grack's master plan of course.
More seriously I'm not comfortable putting up a vote for either currently and want to see how the day plays out more because as of now I don't have any good reads.
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On October 31 2013 18:42 Tehpoofter wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 18:35 Laughing Jack wrote:
Stutters why do you want to wait until you wake up you manipulative puppeteer! What's wrong with immidiately?
Thepoof why do you want to lynch Pandain & Oak and Pandain first? Because its part of Grack's master plan of course. More seriously I'm not comfortable putting up a vote for either currently and want to see how the day plays out more because as of now I don't have any good reads.
Cool, but GUN TO YOUR HEAD, KILL SOMEONE OR YOU DIE WHO DO YOU PICK!
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On October 31 2013 14:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I liked it too. Its not really defense, more like a running commentary. Stutters, are you gonna call anyone town?
A running commentary doesn't make it town commentary. In what ways does his post even attempt to help town?
Each section of his post starts out ok, but he keeps bringing it back to how it's early, it's the best he can do, etc.
That's obvious when it's only a few hours into d1 and implies he's guilty about something and I don't like it.
I'll call someone town when someone gives me a reason to. Why don't you give me a reason? 
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Hey all. First off I'll add my name to the very much against random lynching list for the exact reasons Oats posted.
Also, I'm suspicious of the people pushing for it. Most notably hzflank because he only said he was for it after people brought it up. Like, even though it's only a 30% chance, if I'm scum and someone talks about random lynching my first thought is probably something like "Oh god, what if one of us gets chosen? There'd be nothing we could do." So he makes his post saying he'd be for a RNG lynch to show everyone that he's not afraid of it. Even going as far as sayingOn October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
I would think my chances of actually identifying scum on day one are less than 31%, therefore RNG would yield better results for me. Ofcourse, We would need to decide on who rolls the dice. How should we do that? I suggest we vote on it. How in the world could his odds actually be worse than random? Even if he had no scumhunting skill whatsoever, it would be @ worst equal to random.
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I like your thought process JJD, but although I'm not a fan of Hz, I think your conclusions are flawed.
Being for or against a RNG lynch is completely null.It's a dumb decision, but town makes dumb decisions often.
Also depending on his history in d1, it's completely possible that his d1 votes fall well under 31%.
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On October 31 2013 22:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Hey all. First off I'll add my name to the very much against random lynching list for the exact reasons Oats posted. Also, I'm suspicious of the people pushing for it. Most notably hzflank because he only said he was for it after people brought it up. Like, even though it's only a 30% chance, if I'm scum and someone talks about random lynching my first thought is probably something like "Oh god, what if one of us gets chosen? There'd be nothing we could do." So he makes his post saying he'd be for a RNG lynch to show everyone that he's not afraid of it. Even going as far as saying Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
I would think my chances of actually identifying scum on day one are less than 31%, therefore RNG would yield better results for me. Ofcourse, We would need to decide on who rolls the dice. How should we do that? I suggest we vote on it. How in the world could his odds actually be worse than random? Even if he had no scumhunting skill whatsoever, it would be @ worst equal to random.
I don't understand. You believe that scum are afraid of being picked by random lynches, yet you say that people are scummy for pushing something scum are afraid of?
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On October 31 2013 21:30 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 14:05 Oatsmaster wrote:
I liked it too. Its not really defense, more like a running commentary. Stutters, are you gonna call anyone town? A running commentary doesn't make it town commentary. In what ways does his post even attempt to help town? Each section of his post starts out ok, but he keeps bringing it back to how it's early, it's the best he can do, etc. That's obvious when it's only a few hours into d1 and implies he's guilty about something and I don't like it. I'll call someone town when someone gives me a reason to. Why don't you give me a reason?
Not every post has to 'help' town. How does you saying you want to lynch me and Grack help town? It doesnt.
Are you scum?
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JJD is saying he is acting like what town would do. Acting.
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On October 31 2013 22:25 Oatsmaster wrote:
JJD is saying he is acting like what town would do. Acting.
I see that. But everyone pushing random lynch is scummier because we are all acting?
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On October 31 2013 22:20 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 22:00 JarJarDrinks wrote:Hey all. First off I'll add my name to the very much against random lynching list for the exact reasons Oats posted. Also, I'm suspicious of the people pushing for it. Most notably hzflank because he only said he was for it after people brought it up. Like, even though it's only a 30% chance, if I'm scum and someone talks about random lynching my first thought is probably something like "Oh god, what if one of us gets chosen? There'd be nothing we could do." So he makes his post saying he'd be for a RNG lynch to show everyone that he's not afraid of it. Even going as far as saying On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
I would think my chances of actually identifying scum on day one are less than 31%, therefore RNG would yield better results for me. Ofcourse, We would need to decide on who rolls the dice. How should we do that? I suggest we vote on it. How in the world could his odds actually be worse than random? Even if he had no scumhunting skill whatsoever, it would be @ worst equal to random. I don't understand. You believe that scum are afraid of being picked by random lynches, yet you say that people are scummy for pushing something scum are afraid of? Basically. I think people agreeing to lynch randomly are just showing everyone "Look @ me, I don't care who we lynch!". I equate it to when someone says that they'll just automatically lynch whoever another player picks no questions asked. It's scummy.
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JJD, im confused, are you saying that Random lynching is Pro town or Pro scum?
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On October 31 2013 22:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
JJD, im confused, are you saying that Random lynching is Pro town or Pro scum?
I think it's pro-scum. But I still think it'd be something I'd be afraid of if I was scum if that makes sense. Because there still is that 30% chance that my team would get screwed on day 1 and there'd be nothing I could do about it.
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this game is way too slow.
##Unvote: Oatsmaster
##Vote: Pandain
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On October 31 2013 22:33 JarJarDrinks wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 22:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
JJD, im confused, are you saying that Random lynching is Pro town or Pro scum? I think it's pro-scum. But I still think it'd be something I'd be afraid of if I was scum if that makes sense. Because there still is that 30% chance that my team would get screwed on day 1 and there'd be nothing I could do about it.
So what exactly are you calling Hzflank scummy for? Promoting random lynch?
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##vote hzflank
Might as well untill I see a better choice. Seemed like there's a decent amount of support for a hzflank lynch
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On October 31 2013 23:01 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2013 22:33 JarJarDrinks wrote:On October 31 2013 22:30 Oatsmaster wrote:
JJD, im confused, are you saying that Random lynching is Pro town or Pro scum? I think it's pro-scum. But I still think it'd be something I'd be afraid of if I was scum if that makes sense. Because there still is that 30% chance that my team would get screwed on day 1 and there'd be nothing I could do about it. So what exactly are you calling Hzflank scummy for? Promoting random lynch? Yeah. Other people pointed out stuff that didn't look for him good either. And like, the way I see it, when there's something that people need to take a stance on, very rarely will all the scummies end up on the same side of the issue. So I think there's a real good chance that one of the pro-RNGers is scum. And I think hzflank is the scummiest of them.
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On October 31 2013 23:01 JarJarDrinks wrote:
##vote hzflank
Might as well untill I see a better choice. Seemed like there's a decent amount of support for a hzflank lynch
You do realize you can't just lynch people because others support it right?
The only reasoning you have given is that hzflank was the 3rd person to say yes to random lynch, thus he was pretending to agree with it to show that he is not afraid.
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I think we should be one Jarjar less at the end of this day.
##Vote: JarjarDrinks
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