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hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
October 31 2013 19:08 GMT
#181
On November 01 2013 03:03 JarJarDrinks wrote:
If that was your stance then what was the point of suggesting that we vote for someone to pick the random person?


I suggested that we vote for someone so that we do not have to vote for someone. That is not a serious suggestion, that is me saying that I want to vote and not rng.
JarJarDrinks
Profile Joined March 2013
United States1302 Posts
October 31 2013 19:15 GMT
#182
On November 01 2013 04:08 hzflank wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 03:03 JarJarDrinks wrote:
If that was your stance then what was the point of suggesting that we vote for someone to pick the random person?


I suggested that we vote for someone so that we do not have to vote for someone. That is not a serious suggestion, that is me saying that I want to vote and not rng.
OK, you're saying that you were being sarcastic in that post as well as the following one. Didn't understand that's what you were saying. If that's the case then it didn't come across that way to me at all but I can definately see it that way now.

Since that was the bulk of my case:

##unvote hzflank
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 19:26 GMT
#183
So where did Asinine disappear to?
Asinine
Profile Joined October 2013
Qatar66 Posts
October 31 2013 19:36 GMT
#184
On November 01 2013 04:26 Stutters695 wrote:
So where did Asinine disappear to?

Here in Qatar, we sleep.
Asinine
Profile Joined October 2013
Qatar66 Posts
October 31 2013 19:49 GMT
#185
Having just caught up to the thread, I see no reason not to vote hzflank. He continues to sidestep accusations and fails to provide any answers to my questions.

##vote: hzflank
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 20:22 GMT
#186
On November 01 2013 04:49 Asinine wrote:
Having just caught up to the thread, I see no reason not to vote hzflank. He continues to sidestep accusations and fails to provide any answers to my questions.

##vote: hzflank

I would say he answered your questions decently. What else were you looking for in that regard?
Asinine
Profile Joined October 2013
Qatar66 Posts
October 31 2013 20:25 GMT
#187
On November 01 2013 05:22 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 04:49 Asinine wrote:
Having just caught up to the thread, I see no reason not to vote hzflank. He continues to sidestep accusations and fails to provide any answers to my questions.

##vote: hzflank

I would say he answered your questions decently. What else were you looking for in that regard?


An answer or a response to this post:
On October 31 2013 13:31 Asinine wrote:
Bereft, I want to know how exactly you arrived at the 25% number. Scumhunting will increase odds of hitting scum to a percentage far greater than that. Please explain.

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On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
On October 31 2013 12:05 Asinine wrote:
Why label Stutters as town


As a conversation starter. Up until that point only little blue men were being discussed and I am unable to partake in that discussion to to my unfamiliarity with big green or red men. Obviously I did not think that Stutters' post gave a clue to his alignment, but I may not of conveyed the tone correctly.

Your post:
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On October 31 2013 09:31 hzflank wrote:
Stutters posting when he does not have to is a town Stutters.

It is quite apparent that you were trying to bait Stutters into posting. This is not what I take issue with.

My issue is that your first post is stated as a fact and an imperative.
In other words, you are essentially saying that Stutters should post -- when he doesn't have to -- and you will automatically consider him town. Now this may not be what you wanted to say, but it is exactly what it sounds like you are saying to any third-party.

"Come out to play, Stutters! If you post a lot, I won't think you're scum."

I don't see much town motivation in this strategy. Yes, you may get Stutters to post a little more. This, in theory, should give you town cred. However, you are quite clearly choosing one of the most obvious lynchbait targets to talk about on Day 1. Additionally, after Stutters reply, you just disappear with no follow-up. When you return, you make a lengthy post that focuses on defending yourself. There is a wishy-washy accusation towards me, but it is weak and unsubstantiated.

You are also strong-arming Stutters to play a particular way that could make his meta harder to read in the long run. All in all, I am still unimpressed with you. Convince me otherwise.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
October 31 2013 21:01 GMT
#188
Ah, the Bereft at the beginning threw me off when I was skimming your posts to try and figure out what it was. Gotcha.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
October 31 2013 22:53 GMT
#189
Where are you Pandain?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 31 2013 23:33 GMT
#190
##Vote: Oatsmaster

He's like way too sporadic without any real focus. Don't know why Oatsmaster would post so much. Just strikes me as weird. Not certain vote yet.

Also Grack is town
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
October 31 2013 23:34 GMT
#191
I'm actually also considering an Oats lynch right now.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
October 31 2013 23:36 GMT
#192
Not for those reasons. I didn't like the push on JJD.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
October 31 2013 23:41 GMT
#193
On November 01 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like that vote from JJD. He seems to want to vote Hzflank because other people also think he is scummy, caring more about the appearance of the vote more than voting for scum, as well as incidental totally useless stuff like
Show nested quote +
And like, the way I see it, when there's something that people need to take a stance on, very rarely will all the scummies end up on the same side of the issue. So I think there's a real good chance that one of the pro-RNGers is scum.


On November 01 2013 01:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like that vote from JJD. He seems to want to vote Hzflank because other people also think he is scummy, caring more about the appearance of the vote more than voting for scum, as well as incidental totally useless stuff like
And like, the way I see it, when there's something that people need to take a stance on, very rarely will all the scummies end up on the same side of the issue. So I think there's a real good chance that one of the pro-RNGers is scum.


Would scum, knowingly voting for someone to look good, openly state that they're placing the vote because many others appear willing to do so?

Oats should know better. JJD's posting doesn't look like scum. he comes off as a bit anti-town but he hasn't been very careful at all.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
October 31 2013 23:50 GMT
#194
##Unvote: Pandain
##Vote: Oatsmaster


Get em boys! Original plan was good.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
October 31 2013 23:51 GMT
#195
get em boys!
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
October 31 2013 23:53 GMT
#196
On November 01 2013 05:25 Asinine wrote:
An answer or a response to this post:
…


I did not think that you wanted a direct reply to that, as your post was fairly closed and based on an assumption into the meaning of my initial post to Stutters.

On October 31 2013 13:31 Asinine wrote:
It is quite apparent that you were trying to bait Stutters into posting. This is not what I take issue with.

My issue is that your first post is stated as a fact and an imperative.
In other words, you are essentially saying that Stutters should post -- when he doesn't have to -- and you will automatically consider him town. Now this may not be what you wanted to say, but it is exactly what it sounds like you are saying to any third-party.

"Come out to play, Stutters! If you post a lot, I won't think you're scum."


I really did not put that much thought into that one liner to Stutters. Stutters posting a lot will not make me think that he is town. I should also say that it was not meant offensively (towards Stutters) as I am not sure now as to whether I offended him.

You said yourself that your interpretation may not be what I wanted to say, and it wasn't. Therefore, there is nothing that I can say about your interpretation.

On October 31 2013 13:31 Asinine wrote:
I don't see much town motivation in this strategy. Yes, you may get Stutters to post a little more. This, in theory, should give you town cred. However, you are quite clearly choosing one of the most obvious lynchbait targets to talk about on Day 1. Additionally, after Stutters reply, you just disappear with no follow-up.


I am going to assume that you mean town cred with you rather than that I was fishing for town cred. In which case, I have no idea why you consider Stutters to be one of the most obvious lynchbait targets. Why is this?

Also, there was no reason for you to expect that I would only want to talk about a single person on day one.

As I have posted previously, Stutters reply made it seem that the best thing to do would be to wait a couple of hours and see who else posted on the subject.

On October 31 2013 13:31 Asinine wrote:
When you return, you make a lengthy post that focuses on defending yourself. There is a wishy-washy accusation towards me, but it is weak and unsubstantiated.


I made a lengthy post as talk of policy is not my preferred discussion material. Other people might like policy talk but I was hoping to generate something different, which is why I turned some short quotes into a longer post.

There was no wishy washy accusation towards you. I was attempting to find out the perspective from which you wrote your posts. If anything my post ended favourably towards you, when I posted this:

On October 31 2013 12:53 hzflank wrote:
Or did you post that because when you were reading the thread for the first time you were already looking for scum, and my post was the only thing so far that looked like it might be scum?


You seem to think that it is wrong for me to question whether or not you might be scum. The fact is that I am going to question that for as long as we are both in the game.

On October 31 2013 13:31 Asinine wrote:
You are also strong-arming Stutters to play a particular way that could make his meta harder to read in the long run.


I was not attempting to strong arm Stutters and it is a very big stretch for my post (below) to be considered as such.

On October 31 2013 09:31 hzflank wrote:
Stutters posting when he does not have to is a town Stutters.


The most important part of your post is the claim that my motivation was anti-town because I picked on someone who is lynchbait. Personally, I would not call what I posted picking on anyone. Also, I would not call Stutters lynchbait. Therefore, I don't think that there was any anti-town motivation involved. I simply prodded someone and waited to see what happened.
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
October 31 2013 23:58 GMT
#197
Less of these long posts explaining your previous actions and more thoughts on who is scum please, hzflank. The best defense is a good offense. Who do you want to lynch?
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2013 00:06 GMT
#198
On November 01 2013 08:33 Pandain wrote:
##Vote: Oatsmaster

He's like way too sporadic without any real focus. Don't know why Oatsmaster would post so much. Just strikes me as weird. Not certain vote yet.

Also Grack is town

Lol what. Im posting too much? Im sorry, should I post less?
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2013 00:07 GMT
#199
On November 01 2013 08:41 Grackaroni wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like that vote from JJD. He seems to want to vote Hzflank because other people also think he is scummy, caring more about the appearance of the vote more than voting for scum, as well as incidental totally useless stuff like
And like, the way I see it, when there's something that people need to take a stance on, very rarely will all the scummies end up on the same side of the issue. So I think there's a real good chance that one of the pro-RNGers is scum.


Show nested quote +
On November 01 2013 01:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
On November 01 2013 01:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I really dont like that vote from JJD. He seems to want to vote Hzflank because other people also think he is scummy, caring more about the appearance of the vote more than voting for scum, as well as incidental totally useless stuff like
And like, the way I see it, when there's something that people need to take a stance on, very rarely will all the scummies end up on the same side of the issue. So I think there's a real good chance that one of the pro-RNGers is scum.


Would scum, knowingly voting for someone to look good, openly state that they're placing the vote because many others appear willing to do so?

Oats should know better. JJD's posting doesn't look like scum. he comes off as a bit anti-town but he hasn't been very careful at all.

That post looks exactly like noob scum or noob town. You think everyone plays scum perfectly? Nope.

Also JJD unvoted. Hmm. I need to think about this one.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
November 01 2013 00:07 GMT
#200
Pandain, why are you so useless?
No gg, No skill.
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