Newbie Mini Mafia XLIX - Page 21

On October 17 2013 01:06 SagaZ wrote:
God damnit mitt, we already went over this, this is not how it works. If you make an accusation you explain your reasoning behind it, you don't make us guess. If you have a problem with any post, point it out, it helps us, or me at least to understand how you think.

On October 17 2013 02:42 istandwithmitt wrote:


Pls you dont need to curse.

I just want you guys to try & look at things that are scummy rather than getting in big rants about how people don't post enough.

ggtemplar is talking about how its a good thing to lynch someone you think is town (hint: it never is) & this is from someone who has been convinced I'm scummy all game. He then justifies that "if I am town" (hint: he has been saying that he thinks I'm scum all game) that I'm still a good lynch. Basically, he's pushing a lynch on someone a lot of people think is town & then preparing for when I flip town but justifying it as a good lynch. Basically, he's going to get a townie lynched but no worries, it was a good thing for a town!

I think ggtemplar knows I'm town & is trying to hedge his position for when I flip town.

Well, see ya.

On October 17 2013 02:42 istandwithmitt wrote:


Pls you dont need to curse.

I just want you guys to try & look at things that are scummy rather than getting in big rants about how people don't post enough.

ggtemplar is talking about how its a good thing to lynch someone you think is town (hint: it never is) & this is from someone who has been convinced I'm scummy all game. He then justifies that "if I am town" (hint: he has been saying that he thinks I'm scum all game) that I'm still a good lynch. Basically, he's pushing a lynch on someone a lot of people think is town & then preparing for when I flip town but justifying it as a good lynch. Basically, he's going to get a townie lynched but no worries, it was a good thing for a town!

I think ggtemplar knows I'm town & is trying to hedge his position for when I flip town.

Well, see ya.

On October 17 2013 02:56 Seuss wrote:


Question: GGTeMpLaR posted that in response to a post I made suggesting we vote for SagaZ or July617. If you think GGTeMpLaR was scum, do you think he was trying to deflect the vote away from other scum or do you think he was simply sowing discord?

On October 16 2013 10:32 OdinOfPergo wrote:
So why don't you?
You complain about a lack of details.
Yet you don't ask any questions.





Here were my reads and reasoning, I voted for mitt because of the fact that he was written off day one with his own post's; yes admittedly they had more stronger of a case then myself but they were still bad IMO. As the day went on I started seeing the voltin votes going through, but i chose mitt in the end because he was IMO a bad town, he was playing like it and although now it's night one and he's still the same. Save us all the headaches and deal with it like we should of night

SagaZ what do you think about Templar as of now ? Do you agree with his reasoning on pg 18 of why we should vote for mitt? I was assumed to be attempting to fly under the radar with the voltin votes what if i asked you the same thing, do you think you flew under the radar of suspicion, the only one here 100% town is seus, I know we'd all like to develop a town circle but it's always best to stay on your toes don't you think ?

I'd also like to here from the rest of the town on SagaZ and your reads on him.

Expanding my thought's later I'd like to hear the answer's first .





So you actually do think that wasting a vote on Istand is a worthless vote.
You're pretty much admitting to just taking the easy vote?
The Nyx statement at the end was just a very brief rehashing mixed with a "Oh look, I'm helping"
Nyx's one liners are the same use of Instands at this point to me.
The only thing he hasn't done is post anything but them.



Everything short of reading what you seriously already posted?
Did you read the two and a half pages before it?
"Oh his post are worse than mine" If this is true why are you still around?
Why is Nyx getting the nice crumble of a supposed tip?
Why do you choose mitt over Vontin?
Are you trying to pull the weight off your scum buddy?
I don't like this.
Vonthin is a strong lynch for the town right now.
You could of gone from one no poster to another.
I only remember a few post that got brought up.

##vote July617

On October 17 2013 03:42 Bereft wrote:
I actually don't think nyx has a lot of explaining to do, as some of you have put it. it's not a strong read, but I peg him as town right now. all he's done is shown a lack of confidence + some major sheeping, but his voting patterns actually are what make me skeptical that he'd be mafia. I'll reread when I get home tonight, but off the top of my head, he (a) showed an easy willingness to hammer someone who ultimately turned out to be town (mafia would've known vonthin would flip green and that hammering him the way nyx did would put them in a very bad light) and (b) encouraged us not to switch votes at the last minute (reinforces point a). just some food for thought...

On October 16 2013 18:57 SagaZ wrote:
I guess there is some mafia in this vote participant, so the people here should be under some scrutiny.
Aside from Seuss from this group, my strongest town read is Bereft. Even though Vonthin was a miss lynch, his reasoning looked strong and prevented the mitt super band wagon.

My strongest scum reads: nyx and onlywonderboy. I have said it and will repeat it, they give us absolutely nothing to work with and jump on the easy lynch train.

Still looks mafia but less than the 2 above: playerboy345, less than the others for the sole reason that he gave a bit more to work with. Again, what I really really hate about his posts is how hard he goes on E00e for what E00e said (which looked like an honest newby mistake to me). He says talking about blues is a big nono this early in the game (which is perfectly resonable) but then he proceed so damn hard on it that at this point he's been the one talking about it more than the rest. I also don't like the timing of his post, after Seuss brough some order to the town discussion by asking to focus on me and july, player comes in and repeat his grief on E00e. Looks a bit like he was trying to sidetrack the discussion to me.
He still reads less scummy than the 2 above to me, honestly what I say about the timing might be absolutly nothing and just how his timezone works. My post looks dedicated to him because I think I already made my view on wonderboy and nyx in my earlier post but not really on him.

I think there is a good chance to be like 1 or 2 scums in the people that voted Vorthin. So from my perspective, I'd really like to hear nyxnyxnyx, onlywonderboy and player345. Because right now I'd feel comfortable going for either of those. Bereft's toughs would be good too, especially cause so far he has been helping the town I think.


And to end on a side note, how does everyone stands on mitt now? Cause I am now very fking confused...

On October 16 2013 07:46 Seuss wrote:


If Vonthin flips Mafia we can read a lot into people's votes. If he flips town we can be pretty certain July isn't mafia, which will cease the abusing relationship between his head and his desk I am at fault for.

On October 16 2013 22:11 Balla24 wrote:
I also have a town read on E00, and that's probably my best town read. This guy has been solid in his reasoning and I like his plays in reaction to playerboy's call out. Very nice, IMO.

I do want to revisit the Playerboy -> E00 situation. Playerboy, how do you read that as a soft-claim? He was genuinely trying to start a discussion on when cop should come out because that's an easy way for scum to slip and for scum to give a town-like opinion on something (which is better than not saying anything at all). It's a common way to start some conversation on day1. The fact that you were so angry at the fact that he did that really makes me think you're trying to gain town cred for flipping out over some small mistake. Also I'd like to hear about why you think E00 saying "i'm not going to confirm or deny i'm cop" is bad as well. If he's a good townie he has to debunk your "soft-claiming talk" whether he is cop or he is not.

As far as nyx. ATM he is my highest scum read and I will push for him today as long as nothing changes during this nightphase/nightactions. Nyx, why did you think Vonthin was mafia? What specifically did you not like about his small defense (things he didn't mention etc etc)? Why was switching his vote to you the last nail in the coffin for you for him being scum?

On October 17 2013 01:00 istandwithmitt wrote:


Hey this is a really scummy post. Can you guys tell me why?