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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
October 17 2013 02:00 GMT
#441
Day 2 begins!
Odin the Vanilla townie and Playerboy345 the 1-shot cop have died!

It is now day 2, you have 48 hours to vote. Remember, voting is mandatory!
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
cakepie
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
985 Posts
October 17 2013 02:01 GMT
#442
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
October 17 2013 02:03 GMT
#443
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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iamperfection
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9647 Posts
October 17 2013 02:03 GMT
#444
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168&currentpage=78#1551
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
October 17 2013 02:05 GMT
#445
Well, rip guys. Was a blast! Looking foward to playing in some more of these.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 17 2013 02:30 GMT
#446
ok, so looks like we have an SK. or potentially a vig. though vig is a quite unlikely imo as I don't see any town vig shooting playerboy N1 save for maybe mitt. mitt, you vig?

also, I have been roleblocked.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 17 2013 02:57 GMT
#447
@Bereft How do you know it wasn't mafia who killed playerboy? Information bias? (somewhat joking as i haven't ever seen 2 kills in a game so i have no idea if there's a way to tell otherwise and I still peg you as somewhat town, but it's a possible slip, will disregard for now)

Though I agree with your sentiment. I don't see a vig killing either target. I guess we will find out if anybody claims but I think we need to worry about an SK, not that that changes anything. I definitely don't agree with mitt killing playerboy or odin, if he was vig why wouldn't he just shoot ggtemplar who he has been accusing a lot. And for any other townie, why not kill nvrx or july who have been more suspicious than playerboy and odin.

Odin kill seems to point towards both July and nvrx, both people who have been under suspicion and he continued pushing them through the night, but that's only direct and obviously if they were mafia they should have thought about how much suspicion it puts on them. My scum reads on them so far fits them not thinking about it much and just trying to kill. Easily could be mafia trying to put suspicion on them though to push for them, which puts me a bit under the gun.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 17 2013 03:13 GMT
#448
mafia should only have 1 factional night kill.

I just read the mafiascum wiki for C9±±. I believe we are in a TTT setup. 2 goons + mafia role blocker, 1 SK. no godfather. wiki also tells me 50% of setups include an SK. my earlier vig comment was silly.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 17 2013 03:14 GMT
#449
On October 17 2013 12:13 Bereft wrote:
mafia should only have 1 factional night kill.

I just read the mafiascum wiki for C9±±. I believe we are in a TTT setup. 2 goons + mafia role blocker, 1 SK. no godfather. wiki also tells me 50% of setups include an SK. my earlier vig comment was silly.


yeah so why couldn't playerboy be the mafia kill?
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 17 2013 03:15 GMT
#450
my gut reaction is mafia killed Odin and SK killed playerboy. but I need to go to bed so I'll read their filters tomorrow...
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 17 2013 03:16 GMT
#451
and why do you think we're in a TTT setup.. it could easily be any other setup..
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 17 2013 03:27 GMT
#452
"any other setup"?? balla are you purposely playing dumb or did you not read the setup description? the only other setup it could be is T, but TTT is more probable considering expected number of T's are 3.5.
Bereft
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1007 Posts
October 17 2013 03:28 GMT
#453
unless you think a town RB blocked me......
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 17 2013 03:35 GMT
#454
On October 17 2013 12:16 Balla24 wrote:
and why do you think we're in a TTT setup.. it could easily be any other setup..


It needs to be a setup with a Serial Killer, unless we have a very bad Vigilante at work. The only configurations which match are T, TTT, and TTTTT. But it can't be T because we've already lost two Vanilla Townies, and the presence of a Roleblocker makes TTTTT impossible because we know we have at least one C and one M. That leaves TTT.

So our current setup is TTTMC??. That basically means that in addition to our now deceased 1-shot cop there are one or two more special roles. Either two Masons, two 1-shots of various kinds, or a single Cop/Doctor/whatever.

Of the 10 people left alive, four are anti-town and one is me. So from my perspective half of you who are still alive are scum/a Serial Killer.

Whee.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 17 2013 03:38 GMT
#455
Alright, I have no reason not to believe the Bereft roleblock so I'm going to put him in my circle for now. The "slip" is quite interesting, but not one I would think that Bereft would make as a scum as I think he is much better than that.

We should look into E00 more now that playerboy is dead, as it's evident why playerboy was angry with him. Is it possible that E00 was actually trying to get a cop to come out and succeeded? I'm not sure, as I wasn't thinking about that at all.

E00 where are you? Please post thoughts on the night actions and discussion during the night. Can you re-iterate what your thoughts were as playerboy was calling you out for the cop stuff?

On October 14 2013 18:02 E00e wrote:
Right now it looks like you are not interested in a real discussion because you continue to make cryptic claims.
If there is something obviously bad just say it so I can improve.
If there is something bad that you for whatever reason dont want to point out right now then just say it.


This sounds like a post where you are trying to bait out some form of cop-claim when i read your filter.
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 17 2013 03:41 GMT
#456
On October 17 2013 12:27 Bereft wrote:
"any other setup"?? balla are you purposely playing dumb or did you not read the setup description? the only other setup it could be is T, but TTT is more probable considering expected number of T's are 3.5.


ah you're right... i was going off memory from last game and forgot that not every setup has a roleblocker... derp.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 17 2013 03:45 GMT
#457
On October 17 2013 12:35 Seuss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 17 2013 12:16 Balla24 wrote:
and why do you think we're in a TTT setup.. it could easily be any other setup..


It needs to be a setup with a Serial Killer, unless we have a very bad Vigilante at work. The only configurations which match are T, TTT, and TTTTT. But it can't be T because we've already lost two Vanilla Townies, and the presence of a Roleblocker makes TTTTT impossible because we know we have at least one C and one M. That leaves TTT.

So our current setup is TTTMC??. That basically means that in addition to our now deceased 1-shot cop there are one or two more special roles. Either two Masons, two 1-shots of various kinds, or a single Cop/Doctor/whatever.

Of the 10 people left alive, four are anti-town and one is me. So from my perspective half of you who are still alive are scum/a Serial Killer.

Whee.


I've found errors in my previous logic. You can have two Vanilla Townies with a T setup. The single T only represents a single T roll, but doesn't mean there's a single Vanilla Townie.

I still think it's far more likely we're in a TTT setup.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Balla24
Profile Joined December 2011
2322 Posts
October 17 2013 03:47 GMT
#458
TTT is definitely most probable just based on the rolls but T is not impossible.

Regardless. How is this helpful for us atm? We're not going to know 100% until we have more role claims/flips.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
October 17 2013 03:56 GMT
#459
It makes it very certain there are four non-town players out there. Whether it's T or TTT, there are 3 Mafia and 1 Serial Killer. That means that if you have 6 players you're absolutely sure are town, the other 4 can't be.

The rest of you have an advantage over me in that you know, for certain, who 2 out of the 6 are. If you can get a read on the other four then everything else should fall into place.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
October 17 2013 04:00 GMT
#460
Public announcement:
Use your fucking coaches, they are there to help you.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
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