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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2013 12:51 GMT
#5281
Yeah CR is baller and they are giving themselves up 1 by 1 to save the damn banger. What a world.
I had a good night of sleep.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 14:46 GMT
#5282
CR snuck out of the Palmar lynch without a read on Palmar. CC voted for Palmar at a relatively important time.

CC very unlikely to be banger. CR much more likely telling the truth, based on his actions, than pulling some .. even more than next level play.

It's not just mafia v town on D3. It's DRB with 3 players vs. MCB with 2 players vs. town. If the remaining MCB allows Palmar to die, he doesn't just lose a scumbuddy. His team now only has ONE member left, and it's not just mafia KP vs. town lynch. It's their kp vs town lynch + DRB KP + cop actions coming in. They CANNOT go down to one member, because the deck will be so stacked against them.

CR fits that bill. CC doesn't.

You DO have paranoid thoughts in my head now, lol.


I don't have a problem with DRB solstice and DRB CC. Yesterday, the moment oats was off the table, mafia didn't have their main mislynch option. They know another cop action is coming tonight. They've got 3 players, and know that IF the last MCB doesn't die there are 3 KP tonight. I could understand them being okay with saccing a single player to ensure the 3 KP AND to try and put CC in a better light.

Remember, BEFORE the solstice thing, CC hadn't done too much. He wasn't on anyone's definitely town list. And I was really, really arguing that he was mafia based on the interaction with oats yesterday. He was gonna be under some pressure and some scrutiny that day, even if I couldn't get anyone to see what I was seeing, I wasn't going to shut up. If they didn't think he could really hold up, maybe it's a ploy to try and get him looking better, they think he has a decent chance of going late and solstice doesn't or something.

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 14:52 GMT
#5283
Also, the more I keep thinking about it, the more I go back to everything being fine night actions. Figuring out pandain's alignment also mostly solves the game. Bussing yourself or VE hurts scum, bussing rayn hurts scum if he comes around at all.

Scum don't have a lot of space to hide, everything sexy, just let us know whatcha do.
Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 15:07 GMT
#5284
Let's keep this simple again.

Austin did want to lynch outside the cops on D4. The plan was terrible. It was absolutely terrible. Read it again if you do not believe me. Terribad. Hell this dude even had his vote on Koshi. He did not know if Koshi or Solstice is mafia, he gives possible scumteams fo cop!Koshi, does not give them for cop!Solstice "because there were so much possible permutations". But still, despite those SO MANY permutations Chairman Ray has to be mafia. Has to be mafia over Solstice whose claim made absolutely zero sense.

That's it, i don't give a fuck if Austin has lynched the other scumteam. It doesn't mean shit. What does mean shit is that he did not want to lynch Solstice and tried to push the lynch elsewhere. I don't give a fuck if the other guy was mafia, because it was a guy who was not in Solstice's team.

It makes no sense, the plan was terrible. Austin is mafia.
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 08 2013 15:12 GMT
#5285
Rayn the plan was fine. What was wrong with the plan?
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 08 2013 15:13 GMT
#5286
Like I'm going to entertain the notion with you, but you have to explain why you didn't like the plan first. Just repeatedly saying it's bad doesn't do it for me.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 15:16 GMT
#5287
The plan was bad.

The plan would have ensured both of Koshi & Solstice alive on D5. As Koshi would have been roleblocked / Solstice vested.
Suddenly we have 1 confirmed town (VE) instead of 4 (me/VE/Koshi/Oats). Nobody can be trusted.

Austin said we "remove KP by making Sol/Koshi vest or something". Right. We remove KP now too, unless mafia wants Koshi to confirm more townies / shoot scum.

Same outcome, except that we have 4 conf-townies instead of 1.

Bad plan, bad.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 15:20 GMT
#5288
On October 09 2013 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote:
The plan was bad.

The plan would have ensured both of Koshi & Solstice alive on D5. As Koshi would have been roleblocked / Solstice vested.
Suddenly we have 1 confirmed town (VE) instead of 4 (me/VE/Koshi/Oats). Nobody can be trusted.

Austin said we "remove KP by making Sol/Koshi vest or something". Right. We remove KP now too, unless mafia wants Koshi to confirm more townies / shoot scum.

Same outcome, except that we have 4 conf-townies instead of 1.

Bad plan, bad.
rayn.

Koshi being RBed or solstice vested means scum spent KP on items. Not on killing townies. That's GOOD for town.

We don't remove KP this way. If we'd lynched CR, mafia would have 1-2 KP MAX tonight. As it is, they have 3 KP. That's BAD for town.


You are so focused on the cops, so focused on "confirmed" townies, that it's warped your sense of the game. Cops and confirmed townies are LESS important than having LESS DEAD TOWNIES. Games get won without cops and confirmed townies. Games DON'T get won with all the townies dead.

I would rather have unconfirmed people ALIVE than CONFIRMED TOWN DEAD.

Do you disagree that dead townies are bad?


Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 15:22 GMT
#5289
No, the outcome is same. You need to buy items to block Koshi now.
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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 15:22 GMT
#5290
Essentially, if we lynch CR and scum uses an item on koshi/solstice, there would be 2-3 LESS KP tonight. At worst, we save 2-3 townies AND have solstice/koshi tomorrow.

If they don't use an item, it saves 1-2 KP AND solstice/koshi resolves overnight.
Fe fi fo fum.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 15:24 GMT
#5291
This is so fucking simple. On top of that Austin says he IS SURE Chariman Ray is scum.

This is unbelieveable from a guy who can't tell which one of Koshi/Solstice is fakeclaiming.

If you can't even tell from the claims Solstice is scum and Koshi is town you fucking can't possible tell from 10 people FOR SURE who is the last MBC. Unless you know who is not (your team), and who is town (confirmed) and have an educated guess on like ~3-4 people.

That's so fucking simple. Nothing else makes sense.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 15:28 GMT
#5292
On October 09 2013 00:22 austinmcc wrote:
Essentially, if we lynch CR and scum uses an item on koshi/solstice, there would be 2-3 LESS KP tonight. At worst, we save 2-3 townies AND have solstice/koshi tomorrow.

If they don't use an item, it saves 1-2 KP AND solstice/koshi resolves overnight.

Explain to me, how the fuck would there be 2-3 KP less?
ChairmanRay can now shoot. That's 1 KP less. Who is to say he is not dumb will not shoot into your team?

How do Ballers have now more KP than they would have if Solstice was alive?

Explain this.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 15:30 GMT
#5293
If Koshi and Solstice are both alive, they have to use item to block Koshi or prevent shot.
If Solstice is dead, why do they suddenly now NOT have to block Koshi?
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 15:30 GMT
#5294
That's so fucking retarded. Austin is mafia.
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Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2013 15:37 GMT
#5295
Who of these 2 isn't then:
CC
Pandain
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 08 2013 15:38 GMT
#5296
Rayn it makes sense. Look at it from a scum perspective

If both cops are alive, then NEXT day, they BOTH have to still be alive in order for the lie not to be blown.

In order to ensure that, they have to either Vest s0L or RB Koshi. And they'd have to spend KP to do it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
October 08 2013 15:38 GMT
#5297
Ohyeah. CC Silly question.

So you really think CR is last baller? It does make sense. Voting pattern on Palmar of CC indicates it.

k cool.
I had a good night of sleep.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
October 08 2013 15:39 GMT
#5298
On October 09 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Koshi and Solstice are both alive, they have to use item to block Koshi or prevent shot.
If Solstice is dead, why do they suddenly now NOT have to block Koshi?

Because they can just SHOOT him rayn! He had to be alive as long as s0L was alive (because the scums want you to believe that s0L is the cop and Koshi mafia!) so now instead of blocking him, they can just shoot him because town KNOWS he's the cop now.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 15:40 GMT
#5299
On October 09 2013 00:38 VisceraEyes wrote:
Rayn it makes sense. Look at it from a scum perspective

If both cops are alive, then NEXT day, they BOTH have to still be alive in order for the lie not to be blown.

In order to ensure that, they have to either Vest s0L or RB Koshi. And they'd have to spend KP to do it.

We are close to lylo. Don't fucking blow this now VE.
What Austin did makes zero sense. His explanation it makes zero sense. He has to be mafia.
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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
October 08 2013 15:40 GMT
#5300
On October 09 2013 00:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 09 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If Koshi and Solstice are both alive, they have to use item to block Koshi or prevent shot.
If Solstice is dead, why do they suddenly now NOT have to block Koshi?

Because they can just SHOOT him rayn! He had to be alive as long as s0L was alive (because the scums want you to believe that s0L is the cop and Koshi mafia!) so now instead of blocking him, they can just shoot him because town KNOWS he's the cop now.

IF THEY SHOOT HIM AND KOSHI SHOOTS SCUM IT'S 1-1 TRADE! If they do not want Koshi to kill mafia, they have to roleblock him.
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