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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
CC very unlikely to be banger. CR much more likely telling the truth, based on his actions, than pulling some .. even more than next level play. It's not just mafia v town on D3. It's DRB with 3 players vs. MCB with 2 players vs. town. If the remaining MCB allows Palmar to die, he doesn't just lose a scumbuddy. His team now only has ONE member left, and it's not just mafia KP vs. town lynch. It's their kp vs town lynch + DRB KP + cop actions coming in. They CANNOT go down to one member, because the deck will be so stacked against them. CR fits that bill. CC doesn't. You DO have paranoid thoughts in my head now, lol. I don't have a problem with DRB solstice and DRB CC. Yesterday, the moment oats was off the table, mafia didn't have their main mislynch option. They know another cop action is coming tonight. They've got 3 players, and know that IF the last MCB doesn't die there are 3 KP tonight. I could understand them being okay with saccing a single player to ensure the 3 KP AND to try and put CC in a better light. Remember, BEFORE the solstice thing, CC hadn't done too much. He wasn't on anyone's definitely town list. And I was really, really arguing that he was mafia based on the interaction with oats yesterday. He was gonna be under some pressure and some scrutiny that day, even if I couldn't get anyone to see what I was seeing, I wasn't going to shut up. If they didn't think he could really hold up, maybe it's a ploy to try and get him looking better, they think he has a decent chance of going late and solstice doesn't or something. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
Scum don't have a lot of space to hide, everything sexy, just let us know whatcha do. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Austin did want to lynch outside the cops on D4. The plan was terrible. It was absolutely terrible. Read it again if you do not believe me. Terribad. Hell this dude even had his vote on Koshi. He did not know if Koshi or Solstice is mafia, he gives possible scumteams fo cop!Koshi, does not give them for cop!Solstice "because there were so much possible permutations". But still, despite those SO MANY permutations Chairman Ray has to be mafia. Has to be mafia over Solstice whose claim made absolutely zero sense. That's it, i don't give a fuck if Austin has lynched the other scumteam. It doesn't mean shit. What does mean shit is that he did not want to lynch Solstice and tried to push the lynch elsewhere. I don't give a fuck if the other guy was mafia, because it was a guy who was not in Solstice's team. It makes no sense, the plan was terrible. Austin is mafia. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
The plan would have ensured both of Koshi & Solstice alive on D5. As Koshi would have been roleblocked / Solstice vested. Suddenly we have 1 confirmed town (VE) instead of 4 (me/VE/Koshi/Oats). Nobody can be trusted. Austin said we "remove KP by making Sol/Koshi vest or something". Right. We remove KP now too, unless mafia wants Koshi to confirm more townies / shoot scum. Same outcome, except that we have 4 conf-townies instead of 1. Bad plan, bad. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On October 09 2013 00:16 raynpelikoneet wrote: rayn.The plan was bad. The plan would have ensured both of Koshi & Solstice alive on D5. As Koshi would have been roleblocked / Solstice vested. Suddenly we have 1 confirmed town (VE) instead of 4 (me/VE/Koshi/Oats). Nobody can be trusted. Austin said we "remove KP by making Sol/Koshi vest or something". Right. We remove KP now too, unless mafia wants Koshi to confirm more townies / shoot scum. Same outcome, except that we have 4 conf-townies instead of 1. Bad plan, bad. Koshi being RBed or solstice vested means scum spent KP on items. Not on killing townies. That's GOOD for town. We don't remove KP this way. If we'd lynched CR, mafia would have 1-2 KP MAX tonight. As it is, they have 3 KP. That's BAD for town. You are so focused on the cops, so focused on "confirmed" townies, that it's warped your sense of the game. Cops and confirmed townies are LESS important than having LESS DEAD TOWNIES. Games get won without cops and confirmed townies. Games DON'T get won with all the townies dead. I would rather have unconfirmed people ALIVE than CONFIRMED TOWN DEAD. Do you disagree that dead townies are bad? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
If they don't use an item, it saves 1-2 KP AND solstice/koshi resolves overnight. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
This is unbelieveable from a guy who can't tell which one of Koshi/Solstice is fakeclaiming. If you can't even tell from the claims Solstice is scum and Koshi is town you fucking can't possible tell from 10 people FOR SURE who is the last MBC. Unless you know who is not (your team), and who is town (confirmed) and have an educated guess on like ~3-4 people. That's so fucking simple. Nothing else makes sense. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 09 2013 00:22 austinmcc wrote: Essentially, if we lynch CR and scum uses an item on koshi/solstice, there would be 2-3 LESS KP tonight. At worst, we save 2-3 townies AND have solstice/koshi tomorrow. If they don't use an item, it saves 1-2 KP AND solstice/koshi resolves overnight. Explain to me, how the fuck would there be 2-3 KP less? ChairmanRay can now shoot. That's 1 KP less. Who is to say he is not dumb will not shoot into your team? How do Ballers have now more KP than they would have if Solstice was alive? Explain this. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
If Solstice is dead, why do they suddenly now NOT have to block Koshi? | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
CC Pandain | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
If both cops are alive, then NEXT day, they BOTH have to still be alive in order for the lie not to be blown. In order to ensure that, they have to either Vest s0L or RB Koshi. And they'd have to spend KP to do it. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
So you really think CR is last baller? It does make sense. Voting pattern on Palmar of CC indicates it. k cool. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On October 09 2013 00:30 raynpelikoneet wrote: If Koshi and Solstice are both alive, they have to use item to block Koshi or prevent shot. If Solstice is dead, why do they suddenly now NOT have to block Koshi? Because they can just SHOOT him rayn! He had to be alive as long as s0L was alive (because the scums want you to believe that s0L is the cop and Koshi mafia!) so now instead of blocking him, they can just shoot him because town KNOWS he's the cop now. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 09 2013 00:38 VisceraEyes wrote: Rayn it makes sense. Look at it from a scum perspective If both cops are alive, then NEXT day, they BOTH have to still be alive in order for the lie not to be blown. In order to ensure that, they have to either Vest s0L or RB Koshi. And they'd have to spend KP to do it. We are close to lylo. Don't fucking blow this now VE. What Austin did makes zero sense. His explanation it makes zero sense. He has to be mafia. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On October 09 2013 00:39 VisceraEyes wrote: Because they can just SHOOT him rayn! He had to be alive as long as s0L was alive (because the scums want you to believe that s0L is the cop and Koshi mafia!) so now instead of blocking him, they can just shoot him because town KNOWS he's the cop now. IF THEY SHOOT HIM AND KOSHI SHOOTS SCUM IT'S 1-1 TRADE! If they do not want Koshi to kill mafia, they have to roleblock him. | ||
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