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austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 03:13 GMT
#5111
Yeah. CR lurking, but posting fat posts for a lurker. Cheesecake and Oats are like... 1/4 lurker on their fathers' sides.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 03:51 GMT
#5125
If you were a matador, and the players alive in this game were all part-bull part-robot beasts (are part-robot animals cyborgs?), probably the result of some sort of scientific experimentation, perhaps a government program in an early phase before looking towards human cyborg soldiers:

(1) which player would be the most robotic, perhaps with just a shred of bullmanity remaining?
(2) which player has the most original bull, and has barely been robotified at all?
(3) which player is the most dangerous bull, the one you know you have to keep in front of you or you'll be gored?
(4) how do you subdue the robot bulls?

feel free to answer later if you're headed home. but please do answer
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 03:51 GMT
#5126
above to CR
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 05:14 GMT
#5176
On October 08 2013 14:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If there is a mafia team who killed both the cop and the other mafia guy on one night, would they get +0,5 kp from both kills (resulting in 2 KP next night)? In case this is true and their KP would be 2 on the next night, could they have 4 KP in total for the next night by using the drive-by ability?

From the OP

"If a night-kill is successfully used on an enemy Gang member or a Policeman, the following night, the Gang is awarded an extra 0.5 KP to use. If Drive-By is used and two Gang/Police are killed, the Gang still receives only 0.5 extra KP the following night."
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 05:29 GMT
#5200
On October 08 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so it's possible that the other scumteam has 3 KP tonight if i understood correctly.
I don't think you're reading it right.

Generally, at least based on how other give up one to get two things have worked, you can sac 1 kp, whole number, and ONLY one, for 2 the next night. It's not usually a pure x2 formula, and the OP specifically states you can pass up 1 KP to get 2 the next night. I doesn't say pass up whatever to get 2x whatever.

The drive by side should have 2. The non drive by side should have 1.

VA and CC should be the mafia. Pandain is an outside option if one of them isn't, but I believe he's town. WoS very very very unlikely mafia now.



Koshi, I would ask that you shoot VA or myself tonight. I trust you to make a decent decision within or outside of that, but here is my reasoning. You, as far as I can tell, think VA is town. You've got some doubts, some little things that bug you, but appear to think he's town.

Dunno where you currently are on me.

But here's the thing, VA and I appear to be ... entirely opposed. I've been calling him mafia. He's been calling me mafia. For a while now. Both of us would like to show that the other guy is mafia and that we're town. Not only that, but finding the townie betwixt us is important. It colors some other things, possible what to do about Pandain.

If you shoot into us tonight, you confirm someone or kill scum. And if you confirm someone, we can be nearly nearly nearly 100% that the other one is mafia. It should also be relatively apparent that we are NOT the two remaining scum. This isn't a ploy to have one of us shot and the other skate through.

You may not trust me entirely, but this is entirely sensible, and ensures that you pretty much get TWO reads off of a single action tonight. You have found VA townie, but he is not. You have found me scummy at times, but if we had gone with my plan of lynching outside the cops and lynching CR, we would have eliminated MCB (bee tee dubs, scum need all the night KP they can get, finishing off an entire team would be BAD for scum, and scum would not want that to happen)

Any bus works, any shot works, but I think that by shooting into the two of us you get two reads for the price of one.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 05:36 GMT
#5208
The night action is up to Koshi, but I think there's good reason to shoot into us. There are other good options, but I think this provides the MOST information.

We also will know what he did, because he'll tell us right before it happens.

If scum want to bother roleblocking him or vesting someone, they're short 1 KP. And they don't know if the vest is wasted, because they don't know if VA will get shot. They'd run the chance that they vest him, I get shot, they have a member outed AND lost a KP. Bad fo scum.

There's a teensy weensy itsy bitsy chance we're both town, but I just don't see things playing out like that.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 05:41 GMT
#5217
On October 08 2013 14:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 14:29 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so it's possible that the other scumteam has 3 KP tonight if i understood correctly.
I don't think you're reading it right.

Generally, at least based on how other give up one to get two things have worked, you can sac 1 kp, whole number, and ONLY one, for 2 the next night. It's not usually a pure x2 formula, and the OP specifically states you can pass up 1 KP to get 2 the next night. I doesn't say pass up whatever to get 2x whatever.

The drive by side should have 2. The non drive by side should have 1.

VA and CC should be the mafia. Pandain is an outside option if one of them isn't, but I believe he's town. WoS very very very unlikely mafia now.



Koshi, I would ask that you shoot VA or myself tonight. I trust you to make a decent decision within or outside of that, but here is my reasoning. You, as far as I can tell, think VA is town. You've got some doubts, some little things that bug you, but appear to think he's town.

Dunno where you currently are on me.

But here's the thing, VA and I appear to be ... entirely opposed. I've been calling him mafia. He's been calling me mafia. For a while now. Both of us would like to show that the other guy is mafia and that we're town. Not only that, but finding the townie betwixt us is important. It colors some other things, possible what to do about Pandain.

If you shoot into us tonight, you confirm someone or kill scum. And if you confirm someone, we can be nearly nearly nearly 100% that the other one is mafia. It should also be relatively apparent that we are NOT the two remaining scum. This isn't a ploy to have one of us shot and the other skate through.

You may not trust me entirely, but this is entirely sensible, and ensures that you pretty much get TWO reads off of a single action tonight. You have found VA townie, but he is not. You have found me scummy at times, but if we had gone with my plan of lynching outside the cops and lynching CR, we would have eliminated MCB (bee tee dubs, scum need all the night KP they can get, finishing off an entire team would be BAD for scum, and scum would not want that to happen)

Any bus works, any shot works, but I think that by shooting into the two of us you get two reads for the price of one.

While I agree somewhat with your 'if we had gone with my plan' thing, I don't think it says all that much because I don't really think there was any way you were going to get the entire town to support you over Solstice, and I believe a scum Austin would know this. I've said this before.

I am unsure as to which of you or VA is scum, and a shot on one of you WOULD be good, but it presents the same problem as shooting me. If Koshi dies, it doesn't matter who he shoots, unless he hits scum because no one will be able to prove what he did.

I'd say leave the night action up to Koshi.

If there's one thing I can say about his play this game, at the very least he's been rockin' the cop.
If I were scum austin my activity would have been 1/2 what it was yesterday, because I'd be busy yelling at solstice in QT for claiming cop (except cc likely scumbuddy so whatevs).

If I were scum, I wouldn't have been trying to get CR lynched for ... more than 72 hours? BEFORE the whole cop thing I was trying to get him lynched. You know who needed him alive, needs him not lynched? Scum. DRB needs MCB ALIVE, so they have another KP tonight. They would rather lose 1 member than lose the other team. Think about that. I was pushing CR before the claim, CR was tied for lead with a whopping 2 votes, but DRB needs to ensure MCB stays alive for another NK. You can say I couldn't push the lynch off solstice onto CR, but I have been pushing CR, and pushing CR as the last MCB for long before the cop claim arose.

I also pushed oats as town. At every mislynch, I have undermined the mislynch of choice.


If I'm scum, I've actively pushed against ALL mislynches, pushed to lynch the other team out of existence, eliminating HALF of the overall mafia KP, and when VA flips mafia, would have been fighting for a while now with...my own buddy? The VA thing you guys don't see yet, but you will (hopefully, please no throws)
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 05:50 GMT
#5232
On October 08 2013 14:45 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 14:41 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 14:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
On October 08 2013 14:29 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so it's possible that the other scumteam has 3 KP tonight if i understood correctly.
I don't think you're reading it right.

Generally, at least based on how other give up one to get two things have worked, you can sac 1 kp, whole number, and ONLY one, for 2 the next night. It's not usually a pure x2 formula, and the OP specifically states you can pass up 1 KP to get 2 the next night. I doesn't say pass up whatever to get 2x whatever.

The drive by side should have 2. The non drive by side should have 1.

VA and CC should be the mafia. Pandain is an outside option if one of them isn't, but I believe he's town. WoS very very very unlikely mafia now.



Koshi, I would ask that you shoot VA or myself tonight. I trust you to make a decent decision within or outside of that, but here is my reasoning. You, as far as I can tell, think VA is town. You've got some doubts, some little things that bug you, but appear to think he's town.

Dunno where you currently are on me.

But here's the thing, VA and I appear to be ... entirely opposed. I've been calling him mafia. He's been calling me mafia. For a while now. Both of us would like to show that the other guy is mafia and that we're town. Not only that, but finding the townie betwixt us is important. It colors some other things, possible what to do about Pandain.

If you shoot into us tonight, you confirm someone or kill scum. And if you confirm someone, we can be nearly nearly nearly 100% that the other one is mafia. It should also be relatively apparent that we are NOT the two remaining scum. This isn't a ploy to have one of us shot and the other skate through.

You may not trust me entirely, but this is entirely sensible, and ensures that you pretty much get TWO reads off of a single action tonight. You have found VA townie, but he is not. You have found me scummy at times, but if we had gone with my plan of lynching outside the cops and lynching CR, we would have eliminated MCB (bee tee dubs, scum need all the night KP they can get, finishing off an entire team would be BAD for scum, and scum would not want that to happen)

Any bus works, any shot works, but I think that by shooting into the two of us you get two reads for the price of one.

While I agree somewhat with your 'if we had gone with my plan' thing, I don't think it says all that much because I don't really think there was any way you were going to get the entire town to support you over Solstice, and I believe a scum Austin would know this. I've said this before.

I am unsure as to which of you or VA is scum, and a shot on one of you WOULD be good, but it presents the same problem as shooting me. If Koshi dies, it doesn't matter who he shoots, unless he hits scum because no one will be able to prove what he did.

I'd say leave the night action up to Koshi.

If there's one thing I can say about his play this game, at the very least he's been rockin' the cop.
If I were scum austin my activity would have been 1/2 what it was yesterday, because I'd be busy yelling at solstice in QT for claiming cop (except cc likely scumbuddy so whatevs).

If I were scum, I wouldn't have been trying to get CR lynched for ... more than 72 hours? BEFORE the whole cop thing I was trying to get him lynched. You know who needed him alive, needs him not lynched? Scum. DRB needs MCB ALIVE, so they have another KP tonight. They would rather lose 1 member than lose the other team. Think about that. I was pushing CR before the claim, CR was tied for lead with a whopping 2 votes, but DRB needs to ensure MCB stays alive for another NK. You can say I couldn't push the lynch off solstice onto CR, but I have been pushing CR, and pushing CR as the last MCB for long before the cop claim arose.

I also pushed oats as town. At every mislynch, I have undermined the mislynch of choice.


If I'm scum, I've actively pushed against ALL mislynches, pushed to lynch the other team out of existence, eliminating HALF of the overall mafia KP, and when VA flips mafia, would have been fighting for a while now with...my own buddy? The VA thing you guys don't see yet, but you will (hopefully, please no throws)

You are right about this stuff, but who do you have for your scumteam? Because if it's Pandain/VA then essentially you've got the same thing where Pandain has been pushing VA lynch like crazy the whole game, so I wouldn't necessarily put it past you, unfortunately. The only other person who fits imo is Pandain/CC, and I'll admit I could be wrong about CC, though the sac seems a little ridic.


Stop fighting with pandain. You're missing stuff and it's night so fighting doesn't do anything all that useful.
On October 08 2013 14:29 austinmcc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 14:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay so it's possible that the other scumteam has 3 KP tonight if i understood correctly.
I don't think you're reading it right.

Generally, at least based on how other give up one to get two things have worked, you can sac 1 kp, whole number, and ONLY one, for 2 the next night. It's not usually a pure x2 formula, and the OP specifically states you can pass up 1 KP to get 2 the next night. I doesn't say pass up whatever to get 2x whatever.

The drive by side should have 2. The non drive by side should have 1.

VA and CC should be the mafia. Pandain is an outside option if one of them isn't, but I believe he's town. WoS very very very unlikely mafia now.

I've had pandain now for a while, and once I moved you out of my scum list I had solstice/CR/VA/CC. 2 of those have shown themselves to be scum. The other two WILL show themselves.

Why does solstice claim cop instead of 1 vs 1 cc in thread? (Cuz cc's his buddy)
Why do they pull this stunt? (They need MCB KP at night, can't let CR get lynched)

If you remove the payphone stunt from the equation, eliminate that entirely, how does CC look? Again, I will argue to my death that his "oats is mafia" post is 100% scum. Guaranteed. Full refunds available, anything you need. That post is a scum post and cc is a scum guy.


Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 05:51 GMT
#5233
On October 08 2013 14:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 14:44 Pandain wrote:
Vayne this is why I think you're scum.

We literally have a claimed scum who we can lower the KP with.



what KP are we lowering exactly? he said he's just going to vest every night. If koshi kills scum tonight I will be gunning for the last scum on the other team, not CR.
In this post, we see the wild VA inform everyone that it's cool, the guy who claimed mafia is 100% trustworthy, and we shouldn't eliminate mafia KP.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 05:52 GMT
#5235
Two posts up, that sentence should read "I've had pandain town now for a while"
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 06:00 GMT
#5241
On October 08 2013 14:54 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 14:51 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 14:47 VayneAuthority wrote:
On October 08 2013 14:44 Pandain wrote:
Vayne this is why I think you're scum.

We literally have a claimed scum who we can lower the KP with.



what KP are we lowering exactly? he said he's just going to vest every night. If koshi kills scum tonight I will be gunning for the last scum on the other team, not CR.
In this post, we see the wild VA inform everyone that it's cool, the guy who claimed mafia is 100% trustworthy, and we shouldn't eliminate mafia KP.

Yeah I'm not really sure what that's about.
So wait why VA over Pandain?
"BECAUSE THOSE ARE THEIR ALIGNMENTS," HE YELLED IN A FRIENDLY MANNER.

Has nobody been reading my filter? My posts? Are the people accusing me of being mafia just not even reading my posts?


Pandain is town because of his activity spike D3 trying to save FT and get Palmar lynched. Since then, he has continued to be townie by posting lots of little cases and suspicions and pressuring people. Whether his suspicions/cases have been right or wrong, he's putting work into scumhunting.

VA got tangled up when Koshi busted out his oats shot. There's probably other reasons back in my posts, but honestly they don't matter nearly as much. He dun goofed with the oats stuff.


If VA has a long track record of being super demure scum, super lurker-y, and not afraid to fight back, I'm much much much more willing to listen to CC/Pandain. But unless that's VA scum play, he's mafia here.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 06:07 GMT
#5244
On October 08 2013 14:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly has Austin pushed?
rayn. I will save anything else for postgame or postflip, but here. Go and read my filter.

I pushed Palmar. If you look D3, there are OODLES of posts between Pandain and I. We agree FT is not scum. He wants to lynch VA, I want to lynch Palmar. Look through D3 and watch me push Palmar over FT, and push him pretty hard. I'm trying to get votes off FT way before the modkill nonsense came up, because I was on Palmar that whoooooole day and trying to drum up support FOR palmar, as well as trying to push people OFF FT.

Go read N3 and the start of D4. I'm on Chairman Ray. He or WoS is the last MCB, as I see the world, and I start the day off with a CR vote and pushing CR. The cop stuff came around and turned the day into that, but: (1) I was pushing CR scum and CR last MCB during the night; (2) I was pushing CR scum, CR last MCB during the early day; and (3) it seems pretty clear that I was actually pushing to lynch CR over a cop claimer. While (3) wasn't getting traction, I was pushing it, and town would be in a better spot tonight if we HAD lynched CR (again, guaranteed 100% no MCB KP).

You know who I pushed D1? NOBODY CUZ I WASN'T IN THE GAME YET
You know who I pushed D2? NOT REALLY ANYONE CUZ I WAS CATCHING UP, but I DID make clear posts showing why I thought ShiaoPi and FT were town.

If you think I haven't pushed ShiaoPi town, FT town, Palmar scum, oats town, CR scum this game, you're flat wrong and you haven't been reading. It's POSSIBLE that one reason you don't think I've pushed stuff is that I wasn't here at all for D1, and wasn't here for about half of D2.

I can't be responsible for not pushing reads during time I wasn't even in the game yet. However, at EVERY CYCLE since I've been caught up, I've both pushed correct lynches and pushed AGAINST mislynches.

Seriously. Just read my filter. Read my posts within the game context. Either, both.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 06:14 GMT
#5247
On October 08 2013 15:12 VayneAuthority wrote:
you think I am scum because of the oats thing? oh man. If you are town you have played a piss poor game, to be sure.
You say that, but boy howdy have people been flipping how I thought they would. Kinda neat, huh?
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 06:18 GMT
#5248
On October 08 2013 15:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 15:07 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 14:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What exactly has Austin pushed?
rayn. I will save anything else for postgame or postflip, but here. Go and read my filter.

I pushed Palmar. If you look D3, there are OODLES of posts between Pandain and I. We agree FT is not scum. He wants to lynch VA, I want to lynch Palmar. Look through D3 and watch me push Palmar over FT, and push him pretty hard. I'm trying to get votes off FT way before the modkill nonsense came up, because I was on Palmar that whoooooole day and trying to drum up support FOR palmar, as well as trying to push people OFF FT.

Go read N3 and the start of D4. I'm on Chairman Ray. He or WoS is the last MCB, as I see the world, and I start the day off with a CR vote and pushing CR. The cop stuff came around and turned the day into that, but: (1) I was pushing CR scum and CR last MCB during the night; (2) I was pushing CR scum, CR last MCB during the early day; and (3) it seems pretty clear that I was actually pushing to lynch CR over a cop claimer. While (3) wasn't getting traction, I was pushing it, and town would be in a better spot tonight if we HAD lynched CR (again, guaranteed 100% no MCB KP).

You know who I pushed D1? NOBODY CUZ I WASN'T IN THE GAME YET
You know who I pushed D2? NOT REALLY ANYONE CUZ I WAS CATCHING UP, but I DID make clear posts showing why I thought ShiaoPi and FT were town.

If you think I haven't pushed ShiaoPi town, FT town, Palmar scum, oats town, CR scum this game, you're flat wrong and you haven't been reading. It's POSSIBLE that one reason you don't think I've pushed stuff is that I wasn't here at all for D1, and wasn't here for about half of D2.

I can't be responsible for not pushing reads during time I wasn't even in the game yet. However, at EVERY CYCLE since I've been caught up, I've both pushed correct lynches and pushed AGAINST mislynches.

Seriously. Just read my filter. Read my posts within the game context. Either, both.

I can pull off probably 20 quotes from my/Grack's filter that say exactly same things about Palmar than your case. Also, as i just said, after SnB's flip, if you are scum, Palmar was probably town for you.

Then, on D4. If you are town the idea of lynching CR over Solstice was absolutely horrible. If you are mafia your team has probably concluded that he is the last scum and you have a possibility to save Solstice / look good by "defending" him and pushing another scum. win-win.
Look. I don't care if you can pull out 20 posts from your filter or from Grack's.

Can you pull 20 posts from mine? Can you pull more than 20?

What if you can? What if I have more than 20 posts on D3 pushing Palmar? Is that sufficient? How many posts do I need to make pushing Palmar until you go, "Hey, austinmcc actually did push Palmar!" Did you look? Did you read them? Did you read my posts for the day, or are you saying that something didn't happen without checking?






If you're town, the idea of lynching CR over solstice was ABSOLUTELY 100% BETTER THAN LYNCHING SOLSTICE. If we lynch solstice, mafia is 2/1 and have what we assume is 3 KP tonight total. If we lynch CR over solstice, mafia teams are 3/0 and have 1-2 KP tonight total.

Are you really, really arguing that mafia having 3 KP is better than mafia having 1-2 KP? Because with the solstice lynch, there are 3. With the CR lynch, there would be 1-2.

And me personally, speaking as a townie here, think that situations in which mafia has LESS KP are GOOD SITUATIONS.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 06:19 GMT
#5250
ALSO IF YOU CAN PULL 20 POSTS FROM YOUR FILTER AND GRACK'S FILTER THAT SAY THE SAME THING I WAS SAYING THEN WHAT SHOULD THAT TELL YOU1?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Like. You're town. Grack was town. IF I WAS PUSHING THINGS IN THE SAME WAY WHAT IS THE LIKELY CONCLUSION ABOUT MY ALIGNMEEEEEEEEEEEEEENT
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 06:29 GMT
#5254
On October 08 2013 15:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2013 00:43 austinmcc wrote:
On October 05 2013 00:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
EBWOP: Austin, who's the other soft-claimed coop?
I have one in particular in mind. One of the dudes on the player list.

austin who was this and why?
It was VA iirc. Between D2 and D3 his reads jumped around, he went from unsure on FT to basically sure of FT scum (based on snb flip, but could have been something cops did).

He was scummy on Pandain D2 and then busted out:
On October 03 2013 07:29 VayneAuthority wrote:
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On October 03 2013 07:10 Pandain wrote:
What about me Vayne. FT relies on meta and widow arguments but I'm objectively scummy


I can't say why my read has changed on you unfortunately. have to wait.
On October 04 2013 08:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
actually it makes him scummier austin, but I still can't say anything. ffs...



He had a couple more posts like that, iirc. Dropping little "I'm sure on x or y, but can't explain" or reads changing or posts about how he was holding back certain reads.

They read as cop soft-claims to me, or changes in reads based on night actions.

Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 06:31 GMT
#5256
On October 08 2013 15:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
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On October 08 2013 15:19 austinmcc wrote:
ALSO IF YOU CAN PULL 20 POSTS FROM YOUR FILTER AND GRACK'S FILTER THAT SAY THE SAME THING I WAS SAYING THEN WHAT SHOULD THAT TELL YOU1?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Like. You're town. Grack was town. IF I WAS PUSHING THINGS IN THE SAME WAY WHAT IS THE LIKELY CONCLUSION ABOUT MY ALIGNMEEEEEEEEEEEEEENT

You had Palmar as town before SnB flipped. After that you started pushing him. Why only then? Like, his play was shit the whole D1 and D2. As shitty as N2 and D3. Why magically after SnB's flip you started pushing him?

As i see this little thing called "he is probably town so i don't get killed by another scumteam next night and can safely push him"
Cuz he continued to do nothing, and he started off D3 by arguing about the ShiaoPi/FT vote swap bit.

If you read why I'm scummy on him, the amount of effort he puts into posting about something that matters as little as why he swapped his vote at the end of D2 really highlights the amount of effort he's NOT putting into scumhunting. That's what made Palmar scummy for me --> willing to focus on stuff that doesn't matter, not willing to focus on stuff that does.

I can't factor that into a read until he actually makes those posts.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 06:34 GMT
#5259
On October 08 2013 15:31 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So do you remember it correctly or not?
As far as I know, yup.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 06:34 GMT
#5261
On October 08 2013 15:33 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 08 2013 15:31 austinmcc wrote:
On October 08 2013 15:25 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On October 08 2013 15:19 austinmcc wrote:
ALSO IF YOU CAN PULL 20 POSTS FROM YOUR FILTER AND GRACK'S FILTER THAT SAY THE SAME THING I WAS SAYING THEN WHAT SHOULD THAT TELL YOU1?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?

Like. You're town. Grack was town. IF I WAS PUSHING THINGS IN THE SAME WAY WHAT IS THE LIKELY CONCLUSION ABOUT MY ALIGNMEEEEEEEEEEEEEENT

You had Palmar as town before SnB flipped. After that you started pushing him. Why only then? Like, his play was shit the whole D1 and D2. As shitty as N2 and D3. Why magically after SnB's flip you started pushing him?

As i see this little thing called "he is probably town so i don't get killed by another scumteam next night and can safely push him"
Cuz he continued to do nothing, and he started off D3 by arguing about the ShiaoPi/FT vote swap bit.

If you read why I'm scummy on him, the amount of effort he puts into posting about something that matters as little as why he swapped his vote at the end of D2 really highlights the amount of effort he's NOT putting into scumhunting. That's what made Palmar scummy for me --> willing to focus on stuff that doesn't matter, not willing to focus on stuff that does.

I can't factor that into a read until he actually makes those posts.

But the fact is Palmar put zero effort into scumhunting on D1 and D2. D1 no effort Palmar should be enough to lynch.
Immediately.
Some of us weren't here for D1. And weren't really here for a good chunk of D2.

So (1) we read it all quickly and (2) we saw none of it in context.
Fe fi fo fum.
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
October 08 2013 06:37 GMT
#5262
Also, I don't care so much about a D1 of uselessness, especially over a weekend.

I care that he was useless WHILE finding the time to post voluminously on stuff that didn't matter. It's not the uselessness alone, it's the fact that he's willing to post and think about the game, but only as far as non-scumhunting is concerned.
Fe fi fo fum.
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