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Message GMarshal if you request a ban please ^_^

Also when the game you're sitting out is over!
~GMarshal
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 23 2014 21:04 GMT
#701
BUMATLARGE Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you qatol?
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
February 23 2014 22:27 GMT
#702
On February 24 2014 06:04 Coagulation wrote:
BUMATLARGE Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you qatol?


OBJECTION

Your honor, the defense has clamed bum's rights after he made his statement. Therefore his previous statement should be invalidated.
For such an irresponsible action, I demand Coag be put in contempt of court.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 23 2014 22:34 GMT
#703
On February 24 2014 06:04 Coagulation wrote:
BUMATLARGE Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you qatol?

I do.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
February 23 2014 22:36 GMT
#704
On February 24 2014 07:27 gonzaw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 06:04 Coagulation wrote:
BUMATLARGE Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you qatol?


OBJECTION

Your honor, the defense has clamed bum's rights after he made his statement. Therefore his previous statement should be invalidated.
For such an irresponsible action, I demand Coag be put in contempt of court.

Objection your honor. Gonzaw clearly has no grasp of the English language. His grammar and spelling, or more appropriately lack thereof, clearly makes him scum which both invalidates his objection. Additionally, your Honor I would like to comment on how sexy and intelligent you are. I'm getting all wet and trying to contain myself.
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 23 2014 22:48 GMT
#705
Should it be make instead of makes??
Hopeless1der
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States5836 Posts
February 23 2014 22:55 GMT
#706
Yes.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 23 2014 23:06 GMT
#707
On February 24 2014 05:57 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh, I did think it meant "gay fuck" but GayFK feels a lot less offensive. It's clearly an attempt at clever acropunning.

yeah it's not offensive at all. i'd ban it for the lameness though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
February 24 2014 01:02 GMT
#708
I second Marv's motion.
Writer@WriterYamato
Grackaroni
Profile Joined July 2011
United States9856 Posts
February 24 2014 01:53 GMT
#709
How many games should Kushm4sta sit out for his lame pun ban?
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 24 2014 02:24 GMT
#710
roughly four thousand.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-24 03:00:07
February 24 2014 02:57 GMT
#711
Wasn't in the game, but I think there are two separate issues.

One is the use of homophobic language, or heterobigohijole language. Pun, joke, whatever, I generally don't think that anyone and everyone should be banned for making stupid comments, possibly for some seriously mean-spirited comments, but that's not at issue here. I DO think that people write about someone sucking or riding a dick in other threads, there have been plenty of bigoted comments made in the past, and ... former employees of the company running the site can write posts like
On February 16 2014 04:20 HuK wrote:
D.S. = DICK SUCKER?
Overall, I don't like the idea of a base rule that such language = ban right away the end.

HOWEVER, I think there's a second issue here.
On February 23 2014 04:28 Blazinghand wrote:
Yeah I'm not pleased with how this game turned out either >:|

Vivax420 was modkilled because we warned them off the homophobic language earlier and they did not stop. Use of "dicksucking" and "gayfk" is not acceptable on TL and it's not acceptable in my games. I'm sorry that it caused town to lose, but I couldn't not modkill him.
If we want general loveliness to improve and personal attacks and insulting posts to go down, then hosts need to be able to control their games. As far as I know, from what I read of some of the other housekeeping threads, there was a decent amount of sentiment that hosts should be more hard-assed, ban more for behavior we don't want to encourage, even if it ruins a couple games.

I don't see this as Vivax420 being banned for homophobic language. This appears to be a modkill and ban request for using homophobic language, being warned not to continue doing so, and then making the gayfk comment. I don't think we should start banning for any and all homophobic comments, but I fully support the idea of hosts having the prerogative to warn players about their language, and ban if such language continues. This is...less clear cut than someone saying stop calling x a retard, stop cursing, etc., but to the extent that replacing "a" with "gay" is homophobic, the Vivax420 folks did something they were warned not to do.

e: It sounds so hedge-y and equivocative to say "to the extent that replacing..." Making gay puns fits within the umbrella of behaviors we call homophobic.
Fe fi fo fum.
Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-24 02:59:07
February 24 2014 02:57 GMT
#712
On February 23 2014 04:25 Blazinghand wrote:
For GSL Mini Mafia IV:

Standard Inactivity Bans for Hapahauli (smurfed as DoNotPanic!), QuantumPope, and SideSprang for being inactivity modkilled.

Warning for Mattchew. Although he didn't get modkilled, he was very lucky to get lynched before that happened. He was very inactive.

Standard Behavior Ban for Vivax420 (Hydra of Vivax and Kush). After being warned to not use homophobic language, they continued to do so. Their language would not have been acceptable on any TL forum, and their modkill lost the game for their team. If one of them was responsible for both incidents, just ban that one.

I could see downgrading Hapa to a Warning or upgrading Mattchew to a Ban. I would certainly LIKE to ban Mattchew but he didn't get modkilled. Although Hapa was replaced (rather than getting modkilled), it was due to inactivity, and if he hadn't been, we'd have had a replacement available for another afker.


I'm not sure why I'm getting an inactivity ban here. While I was inactive in the first 24 hours (save for one post), I requested a replacement for what I think is legitimate reasoning, and then put a reasonable amount of effort into the game before I was ultimately replaced by bum a short while later.

If you believe my reason for replacing out was not good, I'll accept the ban without protest, but I'm not sure how I'm getting an inactivity ban based on my actions.
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25560 Posts
February 24 2014 03:05 GMT
#713
Hm ok yeah Hapa's reason was pretty good actually, no ban for him.
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
TL+ Member
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
February 24 2014 03:13 GMT
#714
i should be banned
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-24 03:29:05
February 24 2014 03:23 GMT
#715
On February 24 2014 07:36 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2014 07:27 gonzaw wrote:
On February 24 2014 06:04 Coagulation wrote:
BUMATLARGE Do you swear to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth so help you qatol?


OBJECTION

Your honor, the defense has clamed bum's rights after he made his statement. Therefore his previous statement should be invalidated.
For such an irresponsible action, I demand Coag be put in contempt of court.

Objection your honor. Gonzaw clearly has no grasp of the English language. His grammar and spelling, or more appropriately lack thereof, clearly makes him scum which both invalidates his objection. Additionally, your Honor I would like to comment on how sexy and intelligent you are. I'm getting all wet and trying to contain myself.


OVERRULED

Your honor, clearly this man, geript, has no authority over this procedure, specially not enough to object to my objection.
Moreover, he has no evidence that my own person has no grasp on the English language. Without evidence, his claim holds no water in this court of law, and should be disregarded and ignored with immediate effect.
Adulatory comments towards the balance of justice (judge) in a court of law are strictly forbidden by the Judicial Code of Conduct, article 5, line 10. Thereby, I demand geript be put in contempt of court as well
austinmcc
Profile Joined October 2010
United States6737 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-02-24 03:46:23
February 24 2014 03:36 GMT
#716
this was a stupid comment and wasn't relevant to the ban list stuff!
Fe fi fo fum.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
February 24 2014 03:46 GMT
#717
Not that this isn't hilarious, it is, but can we lay off this thread until Gmarsh comes back? the poor guy only has so much time and he has to parse through all this crap when he comes in here. Give the poor man a break.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Aquanim
Profile Joined November 2012
Australia2849 Posts
February 24 2014 10:48 GMT
#718
I'd appreciate it if the status of the Kush ban in particular is cleared up ASAP so I know whether to let him play in Cultured Mini. Thanks
Mocsta
Profile Joined December 2012
Australia9388 Posts
February 24 2014 10:54 GMT
#719
Its a tough one

I get BH perspective

Having said that, the remark was pretty light given kush usual standards, I'm not sure a ban would actually make the statement intended

I'm happy with this one to be a warning with the game loss enough of a punishment personally.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
February 24 2014 11:09 GMT
#720
On February 24 2014 11:57 austinmcc wrote:
I don't see this as Vivax420 being banned for homophobic language. This appears to be a modkill and ban request for using homophobic language, being warned not to continue doing so, and then making the gayfk comment. I don't think we should start banning for any and all homophobic comments, but I fully support the idea of hosts having the prerogative to warn players about their language, and ban if such language continues. This is...less clear cut than someone saying stop calling x a retard, stop cursing, etc., but to the extent that replacing "a" with "gay" is homophobic, the Vivax420 folks did something they were warned not to do.

e: It sounds so hedge-y and equivocative to say "to the extent that replacing..." Making gay puns fits within the umbrella of behaviors we call homophobic.

We should ban for sexuality-related things if they're maliciously intended, which I don't really think kush was. For something to be homophobic (or racist, etc etc) there has to be malicious intent, in my book. But he ignored a specific host warning like you said, and that is that.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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