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Message GMarshal if you request a ban please ^_^

Also when the game you're sitting out is over!
~GMarshal
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
December 22 2013 06:05 GMT
#281
no dp it's happens all the time in every game. im just saying people are hypocritical, not that you necessarily did something bad.
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
December 22 2013 06:19 GMT
#282
Kush, Cora would like for you to please stop talking to him, id appreciate it if you'd leave him alone and not try to take his side or defend him in any way from now on. It makes it really hard for him to cry that everyone hates him when someone is sticking up for him, so please knock it off.

User was temp banned for this post.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 22 2013 06:50 GMT
#283
Just wanted to say that cora and I have resolved any lingering issues privately.
gonzaw
Profile Joined December 2011
Uruguay4911 Posts
December 22 2013 23:56 GMT
#284
On December 22 2013 14:35 GMarshal wrote:
You will all simmer down and talk like cognizant human beings, keeping your emotions and your words well in check or I will find some unfortunate and angry banling to go through this thread and ban anyone who is behaving in any manner not acceptable on tl. Kwark maybe.

Coag, Cora, I'm issuing a moratorium on your feud. Effective immediately, hash it out however you two want, privately, but there will be no more threads devolving into anarchy because of this. You will both behave like you are mature adults, and if you prove incapable of that, I will, by god, treat you as children. I'd prefer not to. Reach whatever agreement that is, even if it's "I will ignore you in every game we play together and you will do the same."

kushm4sta, unless you can bring up specifics and show how it impacted a game, (privately preferably) do not make accusations of things. This discussion is *over* until such a time as someone PMs me evidence.

I'm growing really fucking tired of all this guys. I could have sworn we were all mature, competent adults, but apparently this isn't a mafia subforum, its a daycare.


I guess technically there can be underaged people here.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 23 2013 18:33 GMT
#285
Alright so now that PYP: LoL is finally over, it's ban time.

Bans for Kurumi, OdinofPergo, geript, nyxnyxnyx, Storrzerg, Kenpachi, Bill Murray, gtrsrs, Onegu, and Roffles.

Geript, Odin, and Kurumi are the ragequitters (the rest are inactivity modkills) I believe so I'm wondering if they need harsher bans or not (or whether or not that's up to me). I'm not sure that all of the inactivity modkills should be the same punishment as the ragequitters.

Not sure if any warnings beside all this needs to go out---BC and marv are excused from bans due to extenuating circumstances.

This game has been going on for a long time so I've messed something up here or people feel the need to appeal, by all means let me know.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
December 23 2013 19:38 GMT
#286
I agree with whatever ban is proposed except a permanent one.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 23 2013 20:12 GMT
#287
On December 24 2013 03:33 WaveofShadow wrote:
Geript, Odin, and Kurumi are the ragequitters (the rest are inactivity modkills) I believe so I'm wondering if they need harsher bans or not (or whether or not that's up to me). I'm not sure that all of the inactivity modkills should be the same punishment as the ragequitters.

TBH, I think only Kurumi and I were rage quiters. Odin is newer I think and just succumbed to the pressure. That said, here's the applicable spoiler plate text from OP:
On November 21 2013 02:56 WaveofShadow wrote:
Play to win.
This means you play your best to help your team win while you are alive and in the game. This does not mean, for example, that you should try to win by being a jerk to the other players so they all want to quit playing. If you're not playing to win you risk a modkill. This also means that you cannot leave the game without a good reason without a ban. These situations will be dealt with on a case by case basis. PM your host if you need to leave the game; I will attempt to accommodate.

Game-specific rules:

Modkills:
This game follows the TL Mafia Ban List. If you are modkilled, your punishment will go beyond being eliminated from this game. Please refer to it for questions about your punishment. If you want to use this game to sit out your ban, please PM Flamewheel or post in the Ban List, and also type /sitout in the thread here.


I "rage quit" primarily because a player had 2 posts at the end of day 1 and roughly another 13 by the end of D2. By the end of D3 when he was lynched I think he had <20 posts still most of which were one-liners. To me, that is a player that isn't playing at all and should've been modkilled on D1 for refusal to play. As of right now and in every future game I play in, if not playing the game like this continues to go unpunished then I see no reason to play the game. I'm sorry that my ragequitting negatively affected the remaining players, but honestly when all players subjected to that type of inactivity (true dice-roll lynches) then everyone suffers even more. This type of play being "acceptable" will only make me want to sign up for games in the future to specifically not play and post "This is my mandatory post for day X" just to prove my point.

I'm not objecting to or appealing the ban. My only request is that if the ban is >1 game that is be changed to a ban for X months (where X = # of games that would be banned from). I don't plan on playing mafia here or anywhere else for a while regardless.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
December 23 2013 21:11 GMT
#288
Still, geript, even in someone not posting, you can find some things interesting
On December 05 2013 01:24 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 04 2013 05:03 Coagulation wrote:
##vote bum

I find this vote kinda interesting. coag coming in and going "lol town haha" or words to that effect after the lynch isn't actually that unusual for coag. But usually coag is pretty happy as town to be the one with a hipster vote. Here he actually joined the main wagon for no particular reason but still did the poke-fun thing. It's not much but it's maybe interesting.

And coag was caught for role use in the end too. Not like he was coinflipped.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 23 2013 21:42 GMT
#289
also I just wanted to point out that I replaced into the game at the end of day 1 so me having 2 posts at end of day 1 is hardly relevant.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 24 2013 00:41 GMT
#290
i will be sitting out resistance 3
I come in for the scraps
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18112 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 00:49:57
December 24 2013 00:48 GMT
#291
Catching Coag is generally not dependent on his postcount anyway.

EDIT: not claiming I am particularly good at reading Coag, but lamenting his low postcount is not going to do you any good... he's the typical example of someone who you don't catch on quantity, but on quality.
OdinOfPergo
Profile Joined December 2011
United States840 Posts
December 24 2013 00:51 GMT
#292
Meh, that's partly true Geript. But it's still not an excuse. It's something I need to correct. So if a ban has to happen I'm not going to say it's unjustified.
Ik weet niet wie ik denk dat ik ben. Ik weet niet wie ik zogenaamd in gesprek met. je niet hier, niemand is. Ik ben hier niet, niets is.
geript
Profile Joined February 2013
10024 Posts
December 24 2013 00:59 GMT
#293
sure, i'll /sitout Resistence 3 too I guess
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
December 24 2013 01:07 GMT
#294
Sitouting Resistance 3.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 01:21:48
December 24 2013 01:20 GMT
#295
Force them to play Resistance instead! As gentlemen.

+ Show Spoiler +
I don't know if joking is allowed in this thread.
I had a good night of sleep.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
December 24 2013 03:22 GMT
#296
Regarding Odin: I actually warned him and attempted to convince him not to quit multiple times and he did so anyway. I am aware he is new to this sort of thing but considering the posting between us I am fairly sure he knew there were other options. Odin can verify.

Geript: I <3 you buddy, and you know I share your views regarding the activity (and we've discussed it to some extent in the obs QT) but your reaction was unacceptable. As other people stated I put a great deal of work into this game and to have people rage quit because something isn't going their way is completely unacceptable and disrespectful. (Imo barely playing the game is also disrespectful in a way but that's a different story). The problem is as a host I am expected to hold up the status quo and springing a change in activity rules specifically for my game probably wouldn't have flown very well. I am in agreement that simply posting once per day to fulfill the requirements goes against the spirit of playing mafia but truly Coag was well within his rights to do as he did that game, especially as scum. I'm not a fan of his play but sadly, it's legal and needs to remain so. If this sort of thing is to be changed then again as I've mentioned (and I think it was sort of shot down already) a general overhaul of the rules is needed, and I don't think people will agree to that.

What needs to happen more often is policy lynching. It's the sort of thing that is always talked about but people don't follow through with it. You joining games and doing as he does won't correct the problem, and won't do anything to make it so bad that people will suddenly decide that something should be done, you'll only perpetuate it yourself and I know you won't find that specifically a fun way to play. Come back and play again with me and we'll push policy lynches through together. You and I will make it happen, luv muffin.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10857 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 03:34:45
December 24 2013 03:33 GMT
#297
Policy lynches suck though.

Like in my last game the people we wanted to policy lynch were both vanilla town.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
December 24 2013 03:43 GMT
#298
why dont u guys start a mafia league or something with high requirement games. the super srs players can play those games and the casuals can play standard games. problem solved.
Blazinghand *
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States25553 Posts
December 24 2013 03:45 GMT
#299
I will always policy Lynch . people may chicken out but never me unless there are scum claims
When you stare into the iCCup, the iCCup stares back.
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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-12-24 03:59:27
December 24 2013 03:54 GMT
#300
I blame the lack of players on my game on these bans x.x
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
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