EPTinactivity is usually an accident. ragequits are pre meditated.
ooh lsb damn you. edited that shit out and now I look like a moron.
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
inactivity is usually an accident. ragequits are pre meditated. ooh lsb damn you. edited that shit out and now I look like a moron. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
Geirpt - coag didn't break any rules. He posted the required amount, I believe the activity rules should be changed because someone posting once a day isn't fun for anyone, but under these rules he didn't do anything wrong. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
wtf mig. Its not like I posted 1 post a day or some shit. I was clearly way fucking more active than "skirting past with 1 post a day" you guys are sensationalizing this shit so much. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On December 24 2013 12:43 Coagulation wrote: why dont u guys start a mafia league or something with high requirement games. the super srs players can play those games and the casuals can play standard games. problem solved. See, this sounds like a good idea to me in theory but I get the feeling that we'd still have 'low/no activity' people signing up and wrecking shit. | ||
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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On December 24 2013 12:54 LSB wrote: I blame the lack of players on my game on these bans x.x I don't think everyone enjoy's PM games. If it was a freaking normal mini it would have started already. | ||
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On December 24 2013 12:58 Coagulation wrote: umm I think rage quitters would be punished "MORE" than an inactive because generally an inactive my not be able to play because of circumstances outside of his control and a rage quitter makes a conscious decision to wreck the game. inactivity is usually an accident. ragequits are pre meditated. ooh lsb damn you. edited that shit out and now I look like a moron. It was a classic case of not being able to read. If it makes you feel better I agree with your post. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
Like the only real problem is people who just flat out don't play, don't vote or anything. Then you modkill them. If you really have a problem with people not mass posting then you can try to get them policy lynched. It's easy to win games with lurkers, there are lurkers every game. They are still readable. | ||
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[UoN]Sentinel
United States11320 Posts
On December 24 2013 13:30 DarthPunk wrote: I honestly think that low activity players aren't that big of a deal. Look at sidesprang's medic play in Titianic II. 3 page filter in a 200+ page game and he was a beast. Like the only real problem is people who just flat out don't play, don't vote or anything. Then you modkill them. If you really have a problem with people not mass posting then you can try to get them policy lynched. It's easy to win games with lurkers, there are lurkers every game. They are still readable. There hasn't been a single game where my filter has been acceptable. Helped me a lot as survivor too. I'm still here. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
1 ban is not enough. Repeatedly getting modkilled due to rage quitting is really shit. 3 game minimum IMO due to the nature of the crime and repeating the offense in consecutive games. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On December 24 2013 13:59 DarthPunk wrote: This is the second game in a row in which Geript has got himself modkilled in order to rage quit a game. 1 ban is not enough. Repeatedly getting modkilled due to rage quitting is really shit. 3 game minimum IMO due to the nature of the crime and repeating the offense in consecutive games. Sure I'm perfectly fine with an upgrade to a 3 game ban if you accept a retroactive for ragequitting yourself. Honestly, you're being exceptionally hypocritical as usual DP; I asked for a modkill in games because at that point in the game I couldn't be replaced. Had I rage quit earlier in the game, like you did in Noir, then it would be 'perfectly' acceptable. Honestly, the more I think about it, the angrier I get about there even being a ban being asked for me IN EITHER GAME. Had I pulled a DP and ragequit when I could've been replaced then Zero punishment would've been doled out as if evidenced by: On October 08 2013 11:29 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: TL Noir bans 1 game for both geript visceraeyes, as geript stated, he got himself modkilled. VE did the same thing and also PM'd people his alignment. MZ wasn't mad about the ragequit, it was getting myself modkilled. Had I gone stupid a day earlier then everything would be peachy keen. That's pretty much a bunch of bullshit. On top of that... On December 24 2013 03:33 WaveofShadow wrote: Geript, Odin, and Kurumi are the ragequitters (the rest are inactivity modkills) I believe so I'm wondering if they need harsher bans or not (or whether or not that's up to me). I'm not sure that all of the inactivity modkills should be the same punishment as the ragequitters. As previous standard set by Noir, rage quitting is perfectly acceptable if you do it early on. Only if you do it after replacements run out is it considered "bad." So yah, I'm now appealing my ban. Thanks for reminding me of that DP. Additionally, I think it's pretty shitty of you to come in here and pipe up like this regarding a game that you didn't play in concerning me doing something that YOU did. edit 2: Further proof that DP's replacement was acceptable: Some of his final posts: On September 23 2013 22:10 DarthPunk wrote: You did it at the start with perfection. then catch 22, then for a while at the start of Persona. And all the voice mafia games don't help. And then this retarded geript tunnel on top of everything else. I'm just not having fun anymore. On September 23 2013 22:17 DarthPunk wrote: I've asked for a replacement so hopefully MZ can find one. Otherwise he can modkill me and save geript the trouble. On December 07 2013 12:53 geript wrote: I'm done I'm not going to play this anymore. Coagulation not getting mod killed for inactivity or for obviously only "playing for his on enjoyment by lessening the enjoyment of the group" is unacceptable to me. There no point to play a game to have fun that has Coag in it. I'm not having fun. The people in this game aren't making it fun to play. The mods have chosen not to take action. There's no point for me to play. Notice any difference here? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On December 24 2013 03:33 WaveofShadow wrote:Geript, Odin, and Kurumi are the ragequitters (the rest are inactivity modkills) I believe so I'm wondering if they need harsher bans or not (or whether or not that's up to me). I'm not sure that all of the inactivity modkills should be the same punishment as the ragequitters. On December 24 2013 12:58 Coagulation wrote: umm I think rage quitters would be punished "MORE" than an inactive because generally an inactive my not be able to play because of circumstances outside of his control and a rage quitter makes a conscious decision to wreck the game. On December 24 2013 13:05 Mig wrote: I agree that the people who rage quit should face a harsher penalty than a normal inactivity ban. These people are proposing that it would have been more preferable for me to not post for the rest of the game and receive the inactivity modkill/ban as opposed to leave the game immediately. Is there an actual difference in game? Not really. One is obviously more respectful of the mods/other players than the others but the one people want to punish more isn't the inactivity. So apparently inactivity is peachy keen here. Guess I need to learn a new playstyle. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On December 24 2013 14:23 geript wrote: Sure I'm perfectly fine with an upgrade to a 3 game ban if you accept a retroactive for ragequitting yourself. Honestly, you're being exceptionally hypocritical as usual DP; I asked for a modkill in games because at that point in the game I couldn't be replaced. Had I rage quit earlier in the game, like you did in Noir, then it would be 'perfectly' acceptable. Honestly, the more I think about it, the angrier I get about there even being a ban being asked for me IN EITHER GAME. Had I pulled a DP and ragequit when I could've been replaced then Zero punishment would've been doled out as if evidenced by: MZ wasn't mad about the ragequit, it was getting myself modkilled. Had I gone stupid a day earlier then everything would be peachy keen. That's pretty much a bunch of bullshit. On top of that... As previous standard set by Noir, rage quitting is perfectly acceptable if you do it early on. Only if you do it after replacements run out is it considered "bad." So yah, I'm now appealing my ban. Thanks for reminding me of that DP. Additionally, I think it's pretty shitty of you to come in here and pipe up like this regarding a game that you didn't play in concerning me doing something that YOU did. edit 2: Further proof that DP's replacement was acceptable: Some of his final posts: Notice any difference here? Yeah the difference is the Host of the game offered to replace me out in PM's. Otherwise I would not have quit. I would have never quit if it resulted in my modkill. You did it twice in a row. I may have said that I would have got modkilled in the heat of the moment, but when Pming the host I made it clear I would only replace if that was an option. Again I can provide evidence of this by posting the PM string. Basically my situation was different and you don't have complete information. Further, trying to blame others instead of accepting the fact that you got modkilled due to rage quitting two games in a row shows you have zero remorse of for what you did. Thirdly I removed myself from mafia for two months after that game, then played a game to completion with no issues. You played another and got modkilled for rage quitting, again. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
To Wave: In the end, the amount of games you want to ban these players is up to you. Do you feel like their ragequitting was a detriment to town? That is the question you should ask yourself. I didn't read the game so it's not my place to make a suggestion on how many games they should get. To DP: Can you please read your posts and try to be less abrasive when you post? You seem to be escalating a lot of situations lately. Thank you. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On December 24 2013 15:13 Corazon wrote: To Geript: Ok, look. We know you aren't happy with some peoples' playstyles. Yelling at them won't do anything to help. I've had to learn that the hard way too. The best thing you can do is just ignore them and try to play the game around them. You can let others decide whether they should be lynched or not. Most of the time, there will be other mafia to find and other people to pursue. Getting into an argument with DP isn't going to help anything. Just wait for Wave/Gmarshal to decide. To Wave: In the end, the amount of games you want to ban these players is up to you. Do you feel like their ragequitting was a detriment to town? That is the question you should ask yourself. I didn't read the game so it's not my place to make a suggestion on how many games they should get. To DP: Can you please read your posts and try to be less abrasive when you post? You seem to be escalating a lot of situations lately. Thank you. I'm not being abrasive. All I said was that geript should get a 3 game ban for getting rage modkilled in consecutive games. I think that is reasonable. Geript decided to rage at me for saying that which is his decision not mine. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
On December 24 2013 15:17 Corazon wrote: Yeah but all I see in the thread is you attacking people and throwing your opinion in their faces too much. There's no need to argue with Geript over it. Just say "I think 3 games b/c this, this, and this" and then just peace out OK cora. Link me the post in which I attack geript? Basically all I said was exactly what you are recommending and then geript wrote a huge post attacking me and I rebutted him. Explain to me how I was wrong here cora. | ||
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DarthPunk
Australia10854 Posts
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