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On December 24 2013 13:59 DarthPunk wrote:
This is the second game in a row in which Geript has got himself modkilled in order to rage quit a game.
1 ban is not enough. Repeatedly getting modkilled due to rage quitting is really shit.
3 game minimum IMO due to the nature of the crime and repeating the offense in consecutive games.
This was not needed.
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On December 24 2013 15:07 DarthPunk wrote:
Yeah the difference is the Host of the game offered to replace me out in PM's.
Otherwise I would not have quit. I would have never quit if it resulted in my modkill. You did it twice in a row.
I may have said that I would have got modkilled in the heat of the moment, but when Pming the host I made it clear I would only replace if that was an option. Again I can provide evidence of this by posting the PM string.
Basically my situation was different and you don't have complete information. Further, trying to blame others instead of accepting the fact that you got modkilled due to rage quitting two games in a row shows you have zero remorse of for what you did.
Thirdly I removed myself from mafia for two months after that game, then played a game to completion with no issues. You played another and got modkilled for rage quitting, again.
It's pretty clear that by your own post, you would've acted differently. The reason why you rage quit and it was acceptable was "only and solely" because replacement was allowed? You can call it what you like, but that's bullshit. You're blaming me for the exact same thing that you did, but had I replaced out I would've been peachy keen because DP says that's ok. Just because you have "situations" and I don't have "complete info" doesn't make my point invalid. How is the reverse not true and I just don't want to air and of my dirty laundry out. The fact of the matter is that in Noir I wasn't modkilled for rage quitting, but you are completely ok with glossing over that point; I got modkilled because I told the host to fuck off essentially. But hey, if I had ragequit on day 1 when I could've been replaced then that would've been 100% peachy keen and received no ban.
Third, you choosing to remove yourself from the game is completely irrelevant. You playing in another game and not rage quitting is completely irrelevant. The standard was set that it's peachy keen to rage quit by YOU. That's right DP let me say that again. Darth Punk, a noted vet, set the standard that it is perfectly fine to rage quit in a game. That's your problem not mine.
My point is that you throwing your 2 cents in here is not only completely rude, it's completely hypocritical. You're perfectly fine with people joining games and not playing in them regardless of alignment, but if they join and play then decide to not play then that's the over the line. That is a sin too far for you. Not only is that completely illogical, it's complete bullshit and you of all people should be able to recognize that. But I guess I'm expecting you to be logical...
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On December 24 2013 15:20 DarthPunk wrote:
And FYI 3 game bans were standard for a second offense for a long time. I don't think I am being unreasonable.
You can't even get your facts straight...
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On December 24 2013 15:20 Corazon wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2013 13:59 DarthPunk wrote:
This is the second game in a row in which Geript has got himself modkilled in order to rage quit a game.
1 ban is not enough. Repeatedly getting modkilled due to rage quitting is really shit.
3 game minimum IMO due to the nature of the crime and repeating the offense in consecutive games.
This was not needed.
This is the ban list thread. In which people discuss bans. That was in no way inappropriate.
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Please stop. Just wait for the verdict.
Edit: That was directed at both of you.
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On December 24 2013 15:19 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2013 15:17 Corazon wrote:
Yeah but all I see in the thread is you attacking people and throwing your opinion in their faces too much. There's no need to argue with Geript over it. Just say "I think 3 games b/c this, this, and this" and then just peace out OK cora. Link me the post in which I attack geript? Basically all I said was exactly what you are recommending and then geript wrote a huge post attacking me and I rebutted him. Explain to me how I was wrong here cora.
How is my post which stated the facts of what happened attacking you? Seriously. L2R
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I would respond geript but I don't want to derial the thread further.
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On December 24 2013 15:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I would respond geript but I don't want to derial the thread further.
Did you even bother to read PYP? Honest srs question.
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On December 24 2013 15:50 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2013 15:30 DarthPunk wrote:
I would respond geript but I don't want to derial the thread further. Did you even bother to read PYP? Honest srs question.
It honestly isn't relevant. Neither is me getting replaced out of a game 2 months ago.
Basically you got modkilled in TL Noir so that you could rage quit.
Then in your very next game you rage quit and got modkilled.
That should be a 3 game ban for a second offense. And that is all I am going to say on the matter.
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Dude I always have a 10+ page filter and the fact that it is unreadable is the issue!
Seriously do people actually think post count determines scum/town here? They need to look at lynches then
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On December 24 2013 15:54 DarthPunk wrote:Neither is me getting replaced out of a game 2 months ago.
So had I ragequit on D0 or D1 and been replaced, should I be receiving a ban?
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On December 24 2013 16:01 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2013 15:54 DarthPunk wrote:Neither is me getting replaced out of a game 2 months ago.
So had I ragequit on D0 or D1 and been replaced, should I be receiving a ban?
No. But that is not what happened.
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On December 24 2013 16:03 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2013 16:01 geript wrote:On December 24 2013 15:54 DarthPunk wrote:Neither is me getting replaced out of a game 2 months ago.
So had I ragequit on D0 or D1 and been replaced, should I be receiving a ban? No. But that is not what happened.
So you're saying that it's acceptable to rage quit if you're allowed a replacement.
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My point is that you're holding what is literally an untenable position. In both cases (Ragequit while replacement possible, ragequit while replacement impossible), the action is the same. In both cases the outcome *MAY* be the same (modkill). In one case, the outcome may be different as the pre-replacement ragequit may be replaced. But you're saying that in one instance the action is punishable and in the other it's not. I don't think anyone got pissed off and called for your ban after Noir. So what makes the latter rage quit scenario unacceptable while the form scenario is peachy keen.
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On December 24 2013 16:04 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On December 24 2013 16:03 DarthPunk wrote:On December 24 2013 16:01 geript wrote:On December 24 2013 15:54 DarthPunk wrote:Neither is me getting replaced out of a game 2 months ago.
So had I ragequit on D0 or D1 and been replaced, should I be receiving a ban? No. But that is not what happened. So you're saying that it's acceptable to rage quit if you're allowed a replacement.
It is less of a big deal. Especially if it is ok with the hosts. That is just my opinion though. Replacing has far less a negative impact on the game than getting modkilled does.
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Either way, I've said my peace.
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Blazinghand
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not to get into the land of bad analogies here, but let's get into the land of bad analogies
if Darthpunk fires a gun into a crowd of people and kills someone, that's super terrible right? but if it doesn't hit someone, that's definitely less terrible and by law we punish that sort of thing less. Especially if instead of aiming into the crowd he just fires his gun wildly into a wall or something
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##Shoot Blazinghand
this discussion is over.
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Ragequitting is never okay and should always be punished. I don't care if the person gets replaced or not afterwards, that should be irrelevant.
I understand that DPs situation is kinda unique as he was offered to get replaced out, when the only reason he no longer wanted to play was because he was pissed off. All I can say is that I would normally not handle the situation like that as host.
And I agree that if someone ragequits two games in a row, more than a one-game ban is deserved.
Also:
On December 24 2013 15:25 geript wrote:
The fact of the matter is that in Noir I wasn't modkilled for rage quitting, but you are completely ok with glossing over that point; I got modkilled because I told the host to fuck off essentially.
On September 30 2013 12:02 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On September 30 2013 11:56 geript wrote:On September 30 2013 11:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We don't know if FT is scum or not. So pushing FT over Ceph isn't scummy. But the fact that he was pushing FT over Ceph while he had a mysterious scum read on Ceph isn't scummy to you? Does anyone even fucking read what I post? You can have a scumread on a guy but push your top scum read, it's not the end of the world. And nobody reads what you post because you are fucking anti-town the entire game and when you finally decide to start playing nobody wants to hear it anymore. Sorry. Fine then your loss for being anti-town for not listening at all. Lynch who you want. I'm fucking down. MZ/Sol please modkill me I'm done with this shit and am not going to post ever again in this thread
On September 30 2013 13:04 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 30 2013 12:57 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On September 30 2013 12:02 geript wrote:On September 30 2013 11:58 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:On September 30 2013 11:56 geript wrote:On September 30 2013 11:52 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
We don't know if FT is scum or not. So pushing FT over Ceph isn't scummy. But the fact that he was pushing FT over Ceph while he had a mysterious scum read on Ceph isn't scummy to you? Does anyone even fucking read what I post? You can have a scumread on a guy but push your top scum read, it's not the end of the world. And nobody reads what you post because you are fucking anti-town the entire game and when you finally decide to start playing nobody wants to hear it anymore. Sorry. Fine then your loss for being anti-town for not listening at all. Lynch who you want. I'm fucking down. MZ/Sol please modkill me I'm done with this shit and am not going to post ever again in this thread On July 29 2013 05:21 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
7. Getting yourself modkilled to help your team. Your non-majority-decided death may not be used as a bargaining chip.
If you have not read all the rules, go back and do so. I will not compensate for ignorance! This is blatantly against the rules. If you come back now I'm not gonna have a problem but if you actually bail then I WILL seek a ban for you after the game. First off, now you've modconfirmed I'm town and Risen is scum Second off, getting myself modkilled in no way helps town since there's no way I'd get lynched ever Third, go ahead and get me banned. I don't give a fuck about that. This game as been so awfully run that I wouldn't want to continue regardless Fourth, are you on fucking crack?
You wanted to get modkilled. You made a post that you knew would get you modkilled. How is that not a ragequit?
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