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On September 18 2013 21:01 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2013 20:56 kushm4sta wrote:
i disagree! what grack said wasn't townie. just busing in an obvious bus spot Why the fuck would you buss? There is a chance town buys the claim and does not lynch BH D2? If you take hard chances like that and buss you are gonna have a hard time not justifying any other vote than a vote on BH on D2. Grackaroni was the first who said "BH is scum or anti-town, that's it" after me.
grack was not shitting on his claim tho. just saying "you got some explaining to do cause you said you weren't gonna be there"
ie obvious shit
GRACK was not commenting on the validity of his claim at all.
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rayne im really frustrated with you right now.
your arguments are just bad and not how you play this game.
your argument: they are a good scumteam so they would not have let that cluster fuck happen
is a terrible argument and wrong. full of wifom.
what interaction between grack/bh leads you to believe that grack is town?
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how about you find evidence from the thread instead of making assumptions about how scum are operating and what scum would/wouldn't do
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and you think im scum rayne? for reals????
i have a shit ton of reasons why i think grack and panda are scum. read my filter you will find them. just been too lazy to compile them into a case.
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On September 18 2013 22:18 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Also kushmasta, tell me this:
If Grackaroni is scum with BH and Pandain, why did Grackaroni fakeclaim veteran to draw votes off debears (non-scum) onto BH (his scumbuddy)?
huh... it wasn't necessary to draw votes off debears. BH lynch was gonna happen, and scum probably accepted from the start of the night.
by the time grack fake claimed, the BH lynch had been set in stone for a while.
Honestly I need to go back and reread that interaction between grack and bh before I can comment on it, but I still think it's an obvious bus spot.
As for your good scumteam theory, I do not think that holds any weight at all. they did not expect an op wagon so it caught them off guard.
You cannot assume that just because you think these players are good, they would have definitely handled d1 well.
Plus the whole premise that grack/panda/bh scumteam is good, IS FALSE.
BH is terrible as both town and scum. Especially scum. Last game I played with him he gave away the entire scumteam after his death.
Pandain is a veternish player but he was never very well respected. This game marks an attempt for him to play better. In the mafia general forum he asked someone to watch his game and give him tips.
And Grack is total newbie.
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There is work for me to do on this game, for sure. Hopefully I will do it tonight. MY to do list includes
1 a case on grack
2 a case on panda
3 a case on debears (plus an expansion of my metaread including newer games)
4 defense of vayne/zealos/anyone else people want to lynch
I will get to this later, but which would you like first rayne?
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Also to the people who think i'm scum: no just no.
My meta is known for busing. Let me tell you why this is. I find it impossible to make arguments against people I know are townies. That is why I need to bus, because since they are really scum I don't have to make anything up.
So a game like this, where I write extensive cases against people, I'm either busing or town.
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@debears how have i been shitting up the thread lol?? i think ive been making pretty good effort
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Cool Rayne suddenly sees the light.
End of day 1 was a complete cluster Fuck and no one knew who had a majority at the end of the day.
This is evidenced by bh trying to save himself even though he didn't have to.
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On September 19 2013 02:21 Grackaroni wrote:Show nested quote +On September 18 2013 22:42 kushm4sta wrote:
Also to the people who think i'm scum: no just no.
My meta is known for busing. Let me tell you why this is. I find it impossible to make arguments against people I know are townies. That is why I need to bus, because since they are really scum I don't have to make anything up.
So a game like this, where I write extensive cases against people, I'm either busing or town. Also I think this post basically implies that I am town. He's saying, no I can't be scum because Grack is town and when I'm scum I like to bus.
Huh..
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That obvious fake claim was not a risk for town.
He changed the time stamp. Scum more likely to think of that.
Also he had a mod supplied fake claim he wanted townie mileage from
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Ebwop not a risk for scum
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Toward the end snb said he was agreeing with me.
Also sno is right about zealos. Making sno town because scum would never defend such an easy mis lynch
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Debears Why was I your top scum read then scratched off for list the next post? Did you have an epiphany I was town? Because otherwise I would think it would be natural to just move me down a rung rather than take me off completely
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nah zealos not getting lynched. cant wait for this case against zealos tho
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On September 19 2013 07:34 Pandain wrote:
And Kush, are you going to vote or wait until you know what will work best for you.
im waiting to see which anti town people are willing to kill
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do you think im being sneaky about who i tihnk are anti town?/
panda grack deberas
i only said it a million times
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um i REALLY dont think we should be aiming to kill the sk. SK is way harder to find than mafia. Most of the time they act pretty much like town.
Like previously i thought debears was scum but now I think he may be mafia
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On September 19 2013 08:13 Papa_Smurf wrote:
Btw just to let people know.
The reason why Umasi and I and Pandain are voting with each other is from the mason talks. Umasi and I both think Pandain is town based on mason chats and overall play.
Why would you need to give an excuse for all being on the same wagon as town??
This is REALLY scummy.
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On September 19 2013 08:27 Umasi wrote:
People who won't lynch zealos, why is he town?
well we know he's not scum. i think he could easily be low effort town.
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