Aperture Mafia 2: Episode 2

On August 09 2013 05:42 WaveofShadow wrote:
I still feel like it would be nice to wait until GoT is either over or at least has been going a while. I'm sure there are many people who want to play both.

On August 10 2013 04:06 GreYMisT wrote:
Role PMs are done, I am looking forward to playing god yet again

On August 15 2013 20:58 Mocsta wrote:
This sounds so cool.

But im scared of the committment for a 31 player game...

Mafia LX hit 100 pages DAY1

On August 24 2013 06:27 strongandbig wrote:

nooooooooooooooo

On August 30 2013 10:23 cDgCorazon wrote:
My "gameplan" is to establish my townieness in the easiest way possible: by not doing anything. Sure most of you are assholes trying to bully me, but it's my strategy. Deal with it.

On August 30 2013 15:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
How about how the fuck we're ever going to win this game with 12 people posting out of 30.
I'm so goddamn sick of lurk.
Geript if I could give you a gun and you'd fire 3 bullets into the air and they'd fall and land on some fucking useless chaff then I would.

On August 30 2013 15:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
well if anyone cares, I would shoot cephiro. Don't like his posting so far. attacking really stupid posts like geript asking for bullets and some guy asking if he can decide the lynch. and the geript lynch just seems predetermined and contrived as opposed to anything that he actually put thought into

On August 30 2013 16:09 VayneAuthority wrote:


No I don't think he's scum yet but that he would be a good shot.

Also there is a severe disconnect in how you are complaining about so few people posting and wondering why I haven't blown my vote yet on some a subtle read.

On August 30 2013 17:21 Koshi wrote:

We got role PMs ages ago.

Dis Clarity trolling is making me uncomfortable. y u not 110% serious? I thought that was your weakness.

On August 30 2013 18:17 Koshi wrote:
Somebody makes a machine out of it and kills us all D:

On August 30 2013 18:51 Koshi wrote:
Also scummers, don't kill me rayn and Clarity. We talk a lot but we are notorious misslynchers. It's in your best interest to let us stay alive for as long as possible!

Thank you!

On August 30 2013 19:08 Hassybaby wrote:
Koshi, my other half may want that item because I don't trust him/her

That's how little I trust him/her. I don't know the gender

On August 30 2013 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Okay, good that we are on the same page. :D
Want to lynch vayne?

On August 30 2013 19:23 Hassybaby wrote:


I don't mean BH in the post. It was just well established that BH and I are the same person back in Aperture 1.

I mean my other half in game, in terms of roles.

On August 30 2013 19:24 raynpelikoneet wrote:

When vayne cares about the game from the beginning it's alarming.
I never want to lynch WoS anymore, ever. No, but for real, why WoS?

On August 30 2013 15:35 WaveofShadow wrote:
How about how the fuck we're ever going to win this game with 12 people posting out of 30.
I'm so goddamn sick of lurk.
Geript if I could give you a gun and you'd fire 3 bullets into the air and they'd fall and land on some fucking useless chaff then I would.

On August 30 2013 16:08 WaveofShadow wrote:
I'm going to bed. I really hope activity in general picks up tomorrow; this game is boring so far.

On August 30 2013 19:28 Hassybaby wrote:


OK. I'll spell it out plainly

I'm essentially a pair this game with someone else I don't know. They have an ability of unknown power, and rumours have it that they cannot be trusted (I'm not even in a QT with them because if this mistrust)

So, I'm putting it out there that if my other half IS revealed, they would be a good option to put the null talisman on, if I read it's effect properly

On August 30 2013 21:38 yamato77 wrote:

I see people mentioning Cora; worth looking at?

On August 30 2013 22:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
VA playing game properly. Its scummy
CAn totally lynch WoS too.
And Kita for going after the easiest target in the thread
Cora I <3 you. REALLY!!
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 30 2013 22:46 kitaman27 wrote:
By the way, I think people need to strongly consider multiple large mafia factions based on the OP and the fact that GreYMisT didn't want to rebalance from 31. A 6 man mafia team and 1-2 third party is really easy to rebalance, but something like 5-4-1 is much more difficult.

On August 30 2013 22:48 kitaman27 wrote:


The trap of giving too much town cred to a scum player who kills or lynches another scum faction.

On August 30 2013 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
what Clarity?
How does kita calling it a policy lynch nullify my point?
I dont understand.

On August 30 2013 23:09 Oatsmaster wrote:
Kita wants dandel dead and so far not much objection. WHAT PUSHING IS THERE TO DO CLARITYU?? ?? ? ? ?

kita scum mate

On August 30 2013 22:34 Oatsmaster wrote:

dandel hasnt done jack shit. And his scum meta is trolling the shit out of the thread. How is he not the easiest target.
You're scum for not doing shit

On August 30 2013 23:16 Koshi wrote:
Hey Clarity, I made that case first! Oats just not replying to me.

On August 30 2013 23:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
I didnt see BH as trying to pick a fight kita, it felt to me like he was trying to get Cora to play the game properly.

Clarity, it wasnt a policy vote for dandel cause hes trolling, like that means when Dandel stops he would unvote. I dont see any of that. Im not taking it as a policy lynch, im taking it as intent to kill Dandel specifically because of his play.

On August 30 2013 23:33 Oatsmaster wrote:
I dont think you know what trolling is...

Think yamato after he got redchecked.

On August 30 2013 23:38 yamato77 wrote:
Clarity, what if I told you that kita's vote of Dandel is both reasonable and also a completely scummy way to enter the thread?

On August 30 2013 23:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Clarity why are you defending Kita? You dont seemed all that convinced that he's town anyway...

On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.

On August 30 2013 23:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
nice vague question clarity..

I assume you mean if I think WoS and kita are scum together. Nope.
I think kita is more likely to flip scum than WoS though, hmm. Yeah.
Like kita comes into the thread and instantly has like 3 scumreads without questioning them really and all his questions to WoS seem tunneledish.

Like kita comes into the thread and instantly has like 3 scumreads without questioning them really

On August 30 2013 22:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
VA playing game properly. Its scummy
CAn totally lynch WoS too.
And Kita for going after the easiest target in the thread
Cora I <3 you. REALLY!!
+ Show Spoiler +

On August 31 2013 00:37 kitaman27 wrote:


The previous aperature was not an all blue game so I'd be careful talking too much about it if it exposes our power roles. If someone finds it useful enough to claim than they can. One downside of giving it to an anti-town player as a roleblock is that they now control the item to either buff one of their own roles, keep it out of town hands, or roleblock another player. I'm assuming this does not work on factional kp. Is that correct koshi?

On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.

On August 31 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:


I dunno. How did you not figure that out as they are clearly are a faction as stated in OP?

On August 31 2013 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Scumteam, anti-town team, whatever.. but fair enough. Anyways i think we can agree that they are a team with more than one member that has a victory condition that probably will not help town win the game?

On August 31 2013 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think geript is scum. I thought he was scum based on how he entered the game, as I said, and I've thought that everything he's said since has been an anti-town influence on the game. If anyone disagrees with me, I'd love to discuss the matter.

On August 31 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Except it didn't - it ONLY drew MY ire Clarity. I'm the only one who had any issue with geript at the beginning of the game.

On August 31 2013 01:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
Geript hasn't played enough scum for me to guage how "ballsy" his scum play is. But I do know how ballsy his town-play is. And it's way more ballsy than the weak ass shit I'm seeing out of him this game.

Look at it like this: all he said was someone is scum. Like 1000%. Why would that draw any more attention to him than people trolling or people saying they haven't read their role PMs or people getting butthurt and ragequitting?

On August 31 2013 01:54 VayneAuthority wrote:
i'm trying to play im clearly not town, good lord this site is going to shit.

last time I ever don't troll.

On August 31 2013 02:05 VayneAuthority wrote:


uh no the problem you just clearly addressed is that people give trolls towncred. Don't try to turn this on me when it's not specifically limited to me. All trolls receive towncred for whatever reason. Zero reason not to troll as this game was just ruined for me because I actually tried to play.

So no, I'm not the problem here.

On August 31 2013 02:11 VayneAuthority wrote:


Oh please, I've trolled in one game and that's the one you played in. Don't be a martyr. I got nightkilled night 2 in that game so it wasn't even a big deal. I've been lynched in one game ever and you have the audacity to call me a troll? unbelievable. You can ignore the root of the problem all you want, but the fact is that people complain about lurking but reinforce it when people that contribute just get shit on and attacked. Why ever contribute to the game?

On August 31 2013 02:22 VayneAuthority wrote:
please point me to some one that is scumhunting more then me right now? I've already pointed out 3 potential prospects.

whatever it's like arguing with walls.

On August 31 2013 02:47 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:


And if you're mafia we just gave scum TWO KP at their disposal.

What do you think of Risen? Short filter but that's what I'm going for, lynch all the lurky people.

On August 31 2013 03:04 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
@Clarity

WHY YOU DEFENDING FELKYR, WHY HE NOT MAFIA? WHO MAFIA?

On August 31 2013 03:12 Oatsmaster wrote:
What clarity? Make any points on how Im scum.......

On August 31 2013 00:03 Clarity_nl wrote:


No, I just mean does kita come off as scum to you from their interaction. Because it seems the basis for your scumread is kita's entry into the thread, yes? You also said you had a scumread on WoS. Obviously that must have changed after their interaction, so you're saying that WoS is town?




???

On August 31 2013 03:16 HiroPro wrote:

you silly! the black and red chase each other's tails you see! but first the RED MAN must die!

On August 31 2013 03:17 geript wrote:

You are scum regardless of alignment.

On August 31 2013 03:18 Oatsmaster wrote:
Dandel was the easiest fucking target in the thread for not doing anything very obviously and that his meta matches with his play at that time. COME ON...

On August 31 2013 03:37 VayneAuthority wrote:
don't worry, the fact that cephiro even felt the need to respond to that case gives you back some points

On August 31 2013 03:53 Onegu wrote:



Sorry I am just catching up and I am a member of black mesa and am town, I was the only person dumb enough to use my own name in the qt though.

On August 31 2013 05:12 Hassybaby wrote:


The roleclaim that came out of nowhere :D

On August 31 2013 05:23 Hassybaby wrote:


Onegu dude. It was a joke because of VE's habit of roleclaiming at weird times

On August 31 2013 04:45 VisceraEyes wrote:
EVERYONE SHOULD BE LYNCHING GERIPT THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE AND UNDERSTANDING IN THIS MATTER.

On August 31 2013 05:38 Dandel Ion wrote:

I'm not so sure.
I'd be careful.

I mean onego and stotters already did it, but it may not be the smartest thing.
Identities staying unknown may serve for their own protection as much as the others'

On August 31 2013 05:39 Dandel Ion wrote:

kitaman the mad sk that has to kill his mason partners for example?

On August 31 2013 05:52 Koshi wrote:
Also, why the fuck are you saying I am town in Persona? Who the fuck are you and please stfu about ongoing games.

On August 31 2013 06:00 Felkyr wrote:


I have read parts of it as it was a running game at the moment. Might not have been a good idea. However, it seemed Koshi was acknowledged as town there and he said a lot. That's why I remembered his name.

On August 31 2013 06:00 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Scumslip by felky, called VE town. DIE SCUM

On August 31 2013 07:44 HiroPro wrote:
I think geript has no idea what he's doing (yes I'm well aware that he's played a number of games). He's seen other people do nothing, antagonize other players in the games, yet not be lynched and thinks that he can do the same. The post where he claims "unlynchable" strikes me in the same vein - it's a joke post just designed to annoy. I don't see anything about his play that suggests specifically that he's mafia other than that he hasn't attempted to scumhunt in any manner (which can honestly be said about half the thread).

Furthermore, BH's play right now is striking me as very opportunistic:
This post in particular appears very suspicious. There's no evidence to indicate that BH had any prior suspicion of geript and he doesn't even attempt to offer any sort of reason for lynching geript. Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment).

Why is BH's first response to simply just throw down a vote? Why is he so quick to abandon a case on Cephiro that has some sort of reasoning to just blindly go "he said to vote him, LET'S DO IT!"

Think about what I said earlier about BH's play (if you haven't read my earlier post on him, go back and do it, think about what I'm saying, read between the lines, and don't just go "oh he's roleplaying, guess I should ignore him").

Be Strong. Be Brown. Vote BH.

On August 31 2013 08:00 strongandbig wrote:

what?

On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:

Because neither of you have actually voted for geript, haven't completely abandoned your big case on someone else, and haven't struck me as suspicious before this? Come on clarity, think -_-

On August 31 2013 08:04 HiroPro wrote:
<snip>
Think about this carefully - what's the first reaction that a town player would likely have when they see someone claim "unlynchable". They'd either think that it's a ludicrous claim or they'd start wondering why someone would claim this (as either alignment).
<snip>

On August 31 2013 06:56 Clarity_nl wrote:
I think we should try to lynch the unlynchable, worst case we nolynch which might have happened anyway in such a big game.

On August 31 2013 07:01 WaveofShadow wrote:

I agree with this completely.

On August 31 2013 08:21 HiroPro wrote:

What's your point clarity? Do you or do you not see the difference between the play of yourself/WoS and BH?

If you're trying to say something along the lines of "hiro, why are you being inconsistent about the reactions?", specifics clarity: the actions that the two of you took and the behavior leading up to this are different. You may not think it matters, but I do.

On August 31 2013 17:49 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
Clarity,

I know he could be that. But why risk it? Just vig the guy its A lot safer. If we lynch him and he survives he COULD STILL be scum. I'm not having that kind of paranoia run through town if he's lynchproof.

On August 31 2013 18:05 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
It doesn't seem like you want to get another wagon going anyway.

On August 31 2013 07:26 strongandbig wrote:
PS i'm not saying geript is town, i'm saying VE is scum for a shitty push on him. don't forget scum can push each other and I still think there are likely multiple scum factions.

On August 31 2013 08:40 strongandbig wrote:
i still can't decide what to do with geript. randombum i choose you! Why does his claim mean I should vote for him.

On August 31 2013 18:20 Mr. Cheesecake wrote:
You clearly haven't read Hiro's filter. Its mostly troll with a post for scum BH. You cant say hes contributing more than BH. Whatever.tired of phoneposting at 5:00 AM I sleep

If he's town, he's completely useless and will be a liability at LYLO. If he's scum, we should lynch him anyway. Either way, I want him out of the game sooner rather than later.

On August 31 2013 19:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
Oh I see what the brown thing is.

well, what it was.

the house that has been built need not stay the same.

clarity, are you town?

snb, are you town?

These are ez yes/no questions.
Surely you will not have trouble answering them.

On August 31 2013 19:29 Dandel Ion wrote:

So you are town?
no other parties.
i like parties

On August 31 2013 19:32 Dandel Ion wrote:

pure does not necessarily mean town

You could say "i am town" instead
how about it?

On August 31 2013 19:41 cakepie wrote:


Try to remember that the context is: I've just finished a once over of the whole thread, so it's pretty much a first impressions post. I am working through somc filters, will get to that in a bit, certainly.

I don't remember saying that Alak is a "good" lynch. I only illustrated how useless I think he has been, in particular reacting to his recent post which I find to be extremely absurd (also because it caught my attention for actually mentioning me)





I've stated my reasons, any further discussion thereof is basically WIFOM so let's leave at that.

On August 31 2013 19:42 Dandel Ion wrote:

well now I know I'm fine with lynching HiroPro.

It's called getting reads yo

On August 31 2013 19:47 Dandel Ion wrote:

1) Aperture 1
2) Chezinu
3) details
4) he softclaimed it with you and lurkandbad
5) you're evidently not

On August 31 2013 19:50 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Clarity who should i vote for? I have missed like everything because i went to smoke a cig yesterday and left my keys in and couldn't get back until an hour ago. :/

On August 31 2013 20:11 Dandel Ion wrote:

You clearly have not followed point 1)
I suggest doing it.
If you need more exact pointers, I mean ANOTHER MAFIA GAME

On August 31 2013 20:27 Oatsmaster wrote:
I wouldnt lynch Kita today cause Im not totally sure, but I think he's scum.
Instead, I am gonna lynch Felkyr, and all of you guys should too.

On August 31 2013 21:22 Koshi wrote:
Well, that Black Mesa group is/was going to be way bigger than 5(?) people circlejerking with fake names that are all town.

On August 31 2013 21:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:
This is pretty important since:

On August 31 2013 21:26 Koshi wrote:

They are in the OP. You think that they are in the OP so that Onegu/Stutters can come in the thread and say:

oh hai guis, BM is a mason group, we are totes town and win with town.
PS: there is a 3P in the group with the name Master Yi
GL HF

On August 31 2013 22:26 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd still prefer to lynch kita

just sayin

On August 30 2013 21:42 Dandel Ion wrote:
yo kita, you should have taken GoT, where you horribly misread me for days for shit reasons, as an oppertunity to improve your play.

Evidently you're not planning on that.

On August 30 2013 21:47 Dandel Ion wrote:
ps: kita just wants me dead because I'm such an incredibly good player and I'm able to read him real good.

Which means he's scared of me reading him with my reading abilities
Which means he's mafia.

OMGUS engaged.

On August 30 2013 21:56 Dandel Ion wrote:

So you're saying you are utterly unable to improve and see the error in your past ways?

On August 30 2013 22:01 Dandel Ion wrote:
kita doesn't want to find scum, he wants to lynch me

he scurred
so scurred

On August 31 2013 22:26 Dandel Ion wrote:
I'd still prefer to lynch kita

just sayin

On September 01 2013 06:55 AxleGreaser wrote:


@Clarity
Consolidating is great.

if we have the breathing room please if you think its safe to swap your vote to me at the end.
(see my previous posts)

@everyone (who is town)
unless you have your own plans consolidating is great.
Also if you consolidate then Clarity VE and BH can swap to vote for me.

On September 01 2013 07:00 ShiaoPi wrote:
why am I scum again?

On September 01 2013 07:04 ShiaoPi wrote:
my reads in a large game on day 1 are like 99% useless anyway, because I suck at reading too many players.
Since geript also says that votes today dont matter I am more or less content with just waiting for the nightpost to see what in the actual fuck will happen.

On September 01 2013 07:10 AxleGreaser wrote:


The stated reason is that I trust you three to get the shenanigans right and correctly allow for vote stealers etc....
aka perceived SKILL

It is not a three or nothing thing. (I wont even cry if I get no votes today)

It is not worth messing up the lynch. (hence a skill requirement)

On September 01 2013 08:14 Cephiro wrote:
Axle, don't use your power please.

On September 01 2013 09:12 Dandel Ion wrote:

uh, no.
voterigger is a scum role.

On September 01 2013 09:15 Dandel Ion wrote:

uhm, you do know that that's what a voterigger is yes?
like, he.... RIGS VOTES
SHOCK AND AWE

"town" voteriggers only exist in PYP/PTP games, basically. It's a scum role.

On September 01 2013 09:18 Dandel Ion wrote:

.........
Have you hit your head lately?
You should go see a doctor.

On September 01 2013 09:28 AxleGreaser wrote:


My problem is that does not look like a very good vig shot.

Geript please explain a towny why you used your virtual vig shot on BH,
and not on any of the other appropriate Vig targets?

On September 01 2013 09:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
We should lynch hiro

On September 01 2013 09:48 Koshi wrote:
Clarity
IIRC it was you or HiroPro that wanted my item? You ok with giving it to HiroPro first?

On September 01 2013 08:32 WaveofShadow wrote:

It's just this. I still think you're scummy, and as such you shouldn't be this confident in following along with a town-aligned plan like AG's.

Some of your actions resonate as being from a town perspective, like this one, but I still can't connect it to the fact that you refuse to actively participate in scumhunting in this game so I have to assume scum.

On September 01 2013 19:48 Hassybaby wrote:


http://hydra-images.cursecdn.com/dota2.gamepedia.com/5/55/Tink_levelup_08.mp3

?

On September 01 2013 20:31 Dandel Ion wrote:
Scum:
geript
kita
oats
hiro
clarity

~wob wob~

On September 01 2013 22:20 Oatsmaster wrote:
hey im not thread sentiment scum. Im insulted.

On September 01 2013 22:09 yamato77 wrote:
Clarity, what do you make of Rayn?

On September 01 2013 22:25 Koshi wrote:

Why did people call DI totes town in the GoT game? I can see him doing the same here. Also, that list isn't all thread sentiment.

On September 01 2013 22:56 Oatsmaster wrote:
rayn kinda can play scum pretty well though.

BUT YAMATO CANT.

Koshi, do you want to lynch Dandel? Why do you care about the severity of our townreads on him?

On September 01 2013 22:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Hey pokemon dude! Do not fight! There is no reason to if you are town!
You know what i mean. scum have hard time winning if you do not fight.
You can also prove you are town by doing so. If you don't, i'll hunt you down and kill you!

On September 02 2013 01:54 MrZentor wrote:
I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.

We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript.

On September 02 2013 02:26 MrZentor wrote:
Assuming his vote rigging ability is a scum role, it would be best for them to use it later in the game. This gives mafia a strong motivation for saving geript, even if it's risky

Which would lead them to vote for the person who is most likely to be lynched besides geript.
+ Show Spoiler +

All I'm saying is that if geript flips mafia, we need to kill one of those people. I don't know if he will or not.

On September 02 2013 01:54 MrZentor wrote:
I'm extremely suspicious of the following people: Oatsmaster, Dandel Ion, Mr. Cheesecake, Clarity_nl, Koshi, raynpelikoneet, VayneAuthority and their shady attempt to save geript.

We should definitely lynch one of them if a vigilante manages to kill geript.

On September 02 2013 02:47 MrZentor wrote:


I'm purposely not narrowing down the list until geript flips scum, because if he ends up not flipping scum, all the time spent narrowing down the list would be wasted. (Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town)



Raynpelikeoneet, explain to us how I said that you did your best to save geript.

On September 02 2013 02:54 kitaman27 wrote:


Since you're around, do you have any opinion on the three players I mentioned?

On September 02 2013 03:21 MrZentor wrote:
The point of it is to tell everybody that if geript flips scum, we need to lynch somebody in that list.

That's all.

On September 02 2013 02:33 MrZentor wrote:


Yes, obviously there are people who tried to saved geript and didn't vote for felkyr, but they clearly weren't doing their best to save him and therefore not as likely to be scum .

So he could wait to use his ability for when it would be much more useful?

I should have been clear that I'm assuming geript flips scum. I think it's likely given the circumstances. It's also why I said the some of the people were "extremely suspicious" instead of saying that there were definitely scum in the list.

On September 02 2013 02:47 MrZentor wrote:


I'm purposely not narrowing down the list until geript flips scum, because if he ends up not flipping scum, all the time spent narrowing down the list would be wasted. (Obviously at least half of the people on the list are almost certainly town)

On September 02 2013 03:06 MrZentor wrote:


You're kidding, right? Everybody knows which half it is.

On September 02 2013 03:02 Clarity_nl wrote:


Actually taking off for a bit, speaking to a friend on skype.
I'd have to read up on them, although I think their filters are quite small. I'll definitely post my thoughts on them before deadline though. From memory: risen seems town. He's playing different from GoT but he seemed pretty upset at the reactions at his opening post there, so I can see the change, and I think the change is for the better. He's not the most active but that's fine.
cakepie: lurker... right? Can't remember anything he's done
bumbum: I think his exchange with dandel seemed genuine but has he done anything since?

I'll let you know a bit later if anything changes.

What are your thoughts on zentor, kita?

On August 31 2013 16:13 Risen wrote:
Well I don't really like Cheesecakes case on me, but that's probably just bias against someone attacking me. I don't have a problem with him misinterpreting my read statement, because as it's written that's how I would read it too. I do have a problem with him saying I'm apprehensive about my actions.

I haven't flung any shit this game. I simply pointed something out I thought the thread and WoS should be aware of. Pointing something that is anti-town out isn't flinging shit, or every single case ever made in mafia is flinging shit. So I feel justified thinking that while a town cheesecake wouldn't hyperbolize, a scum cheesecake would. His case on me feels so slimy, like he's trying to twist my words into meaning something they don't.

On September 02 2013 04:43 MrZentor wrote:
I'm not always clear about my ideas, so I'm scum.

Dat logic.

On September 02 2013 04:54 debears wrote:
Clarity look at my post on dandel dawg

On September 02 2013 04:58 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ohai guise.
Why are we not talking about BH's reads again?
Hiro/Shiao scum, Shiao dies tomorrow gogogogo

On September 02 2013 05:05 WaveofShadow wrote:

Umm....Is Zentor's idea of scum people who tried to 'save' Geript?

Why am I not on his list then?

On September 02 2013 05:10 Dandel Ion wrote:

wtf

of course geript is going to flip scum

it's actually 100%

On September 02 2013 05:40 WaveofShadow wrote:
(Not to mention there is no way Dandel is scum anyway, but that's besides the point.)

On September 02 2013 05:44 kitaman27 wrote:


From my understanding, Dandel is the most incompetent scum to ever play the game. He always plays the same exact way, which essentially consists of claiming mafia and refusing to post. He is also incapable of changing his play from game to game. Therefore, he must be town.

I'd still be perfectly happy to see him killed.

As for my read on Zentor, I don't follow his logic, but I don't find it malicious at this point.

On September 02 2013 05:48 Koshi wrote:

You sound like me in GoT. Not good.

On September 02 2013 05:46 kitaman27 wrote:
I'm more interested why Zentor waited until night one to start posting. Unavailability?

On September 02 2013 06:15 Dandel Ion wrote:

You haven't explained how me playing different to GoT makes me scum
You are saying "he played differently as town in the past so he's scum now", which is terrible pseudo-usage of meta, because what you should be saying is "he played scum just like this in the past and here's where", but you can't say that because I didn't.

That said, that was not even what koshi was saying.

On September 02 2013 06:21 Dandel Ion wrote:

That's quite the coincidence, because if you are town, you are reaching the worst conclusions possible. For bad reasons too.

My games are in my profile.

On September 02 2013 09:38 debears wrote:
geript is unkillable i fear

On September 02 2013 09:43 debears wrote:


no

On September 02 2013 09:48 debears wrote:


He apparently can switch all the votes off himself. Then, he doesn't die when he pulls such shenanigans after looking scum city.

Dude is like Arnold Schwarzenegger in Terminator

On September 02 2013 09:53 MrZentor wrote:



Clarity, do you still think I scumslipped and gave away that both I geript are scum?

On September 02 2013 09:54 Hassybaby wrote:
Huh....turns out I didn't roll high enough to save VE

On September 02 2013 10:01 MrZentor wrote:


I mean, I responded to everything you said in your case and show you why it's all townie, but you haven't responded.