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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
August 30 2013 14:58 GMT
#681
nice vague question clarity..

I assume you mean if I think WoS and kita are scum together. Nope.
I think kita is more likely to flip scum than WoS though, hmm. Yeah.
Like kita comes into the thread and instantly has like 3 scumreads without questioning them really and all his questions to WoS seem tunneledish.
No gg, No skill.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 15:00 GMT
#682
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
strongandbig
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4858 Posts
August 30 2013 15:02 GMT
#683
Okay I read the stuff that got posted while I was reading the thread.

Kita plz. If you're town, DI is a terrible target for a troll policy lynch. Better targets are alakaslam, cep hiro at this point, vayne. But policy lynching dandel is useless since he gives up as scum anyway.

Kill list: wos, Kita, bh, anyone with less posts than me. Gogo
"It's the torso" "only more so!"
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 15:03 GMT
#684
On August 30 2013 23:58 Oatsmaster wrote:
nice vague question clarity..

I assume you mean if I think WoS and kita are scum together. Nope.
I think kita is more likely to flip scum than WoS though, hmm. Yeah.
Like kita comes into the thread and instantly has like 3 scumreads without questioning them really and all his questions to WoS seem tunneledish.


No, I just mean does kita come off as scum to you from their interaction. Because it seems the basis for your scumread is kita's entry into the thread, yes? You also said you had a scumread on WoS. Obviously that must have changed after their interaction, so you're saying that WoS is town?

Like kita comes into the thread and instantly has like 3 scumreads without questioning them really

On August 30 2013 22:28 Oatsmaster wrote:
VA playing game properly. Its scummy
CAn totally lynch WoS too.
And Kita for going after the easiest target in the thread
Cora I <3 you. REALLY!!
+ Show Spoiler +
uh no not really


???
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2013 15:03 GMT
#685
On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that.
table for two on a tv tray
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 30 2013 15:05 GMT
#686
On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

It still says that other assignments may exist. Interesting rayn takes that to mean a second scum team exists for sure though.
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
August 30 2013 15:05 GMT
#687
On August 31 2013 00:02 strongandbig wrote:
Okay I read the stuff that got posted while I was reading the thread.

Kita plz. If you're town, DI is a terrible target for a troll policy lynch. Better targets are alakaslam, cep hiro at this point, vayne. But policy lynching dandel is useless since he gives up as scum anyway.

Kill list: wos, Kita, bh, anyone with less posts than me. Gogo

I like this SNB.

will sheep
Writer@WriterYamato
ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
August 30 2013 15:06 GMT
#688
skimmed all over this thread, lets go kill WoS? only one who stuck out for me in this initial read

##Vote: WaveofShadow
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Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 30 2013 15:06 GMT
#689
Ebwop assignments= alignments
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 30 2013 15:09 GMT
#690
On August 31 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that.

Can you link to the black mesa thing from previous games?
Alakaslam
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States17336 Posts
August 30 2013 15:10 GMT
#691
PAGE 35 FTW!!!!!


Ok! I must do my best to be cool!

I think Yamato could be scum because he always is! Otherwise, he's null!

I think Raynpelikoneet is cool! So don't kill him skumz, please!

Oatsmaster looks like usual! Don't lynch him!

Kitaman27 posted such that I don't even remember what specifically he posted! If it wasn't helpful, it sure blends in! If anyone finds that he truly wasn't helpful lynch him but I should probably read his filter!

Clarity_ forgot the end bit, like Kitaman 27, sure blends in if he hasn't been helpful! I'll read him too!

....

NO YOU SHUT UP!! lol do not kill WoS please! He shall be my foil!

I'm still too OMGUS about the Musclebound! Not gonna talk about him!

ONEGU knows me he is SVENGALI his entrance is fine because he is telling me shaddap!

Unfortunately nobody encouraged me per say.

Koshi looks good!

The Taciturn One is unlynchable by me! I would only vote him if I was role cop and had a red check on him! You are on your own! I sure hope he isn't scum.

Dandel ion!

...

Dandel Ion?

If you think Elon Musk is a Nazi, it is because YOU radicalized him!
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2013 15:13 GMT
#692
On August 31 2013 00:09 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that.

Can you link to the black mesa thing from previous games?

I don't remember if it was necessarily Black Mesa, but Aperture mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120

VisceraEyes call tell you more about this. :D
kitaman played in that game.
table for two on a tv tray
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 30 2013 15:17 GMT
#693
On August 31 2013 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:09 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 31 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that.

Can you link to the black mesa thing from previous games?

I don't remember if it was necessarily Black Mesa, but Aperture mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120

VisceraEyes call tell you more about this. :D
kitaman played in that game.

I only see one scum team there. Am I missing something?
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
August 30 2013 15:18 GMT
#694
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


If the OP makes it so clear, what is the harm in pointing it out? Mafia faction(s) are likely aware of the possibility so I'm just pointing it out so town is as well.

It impacts the way you should be playing the game. Haunted and Insane 2 resulted in town loses for not adequately adapting to a multi-faction game. There are certain tricks you can use in a multi-faction game, such as chainsaw defending a scumbuddy against a mafia player of the opposing faction. Town circles should be tighter than usual and we can try to play off the faction rivalry to possibly gain additional information when a mafia player is about to be lynched.

On the topic of the setup, something that I think was strongly underutilized in the first game was the item mechanic. Since items are passed on death, we can use them as an investigative tool to determine who is possibly carrying out a kill. This relies on some type of ability to identify who is holding an item, but there are probably other ways of taking advantage of this as well.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2013 15:20 GMT
#695
On August 31 2013 00:17 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 31 2013 00:09 Stutters695 wrote:
On August 31 2013 00:03 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

Have you played/read other Aperture games? Because that's exactly what Black Mesa is. And kitaman very well knows that.

Can you link to the black mesa thing from previous games?

I don't remember if it was necessarily Black Mesa, but Aperture mafia:
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=319120

VisceraEyes call tell you more about this. :D
kitaman played in that game.

I only see one scum team there. Am I missing something?

Sleeper Cell agents are another scumteam.

On August 31 2013 00:18 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


If the OP makes it so clear, what is the harm in pointing it out? Mafia faction(s) are likely aware of the possibility so I'm just pointing it out so town is as well.

It impacts the way you should be playing the game. Haunted and Insane 2 resulted in town loses for not adequately adapting to a multi-faction game. There are certain tricks you can use in a multi-faction game, such as chainsaw defending a scumbuddy against a mafia player of the opposing faction. Town circles should be tighter than usual and we can try to play off the faction rivalry to possibly gain additional information when a mafia player is about to be lynched.

On the topic of the setup, something that I think was strongly underutilized in the first game was the item mechanic. Since items are passed on death, we can use them as an investigative tool to determine who is possibly carrying out a kill. This relies on some type of ability to identify who is holding an item, but there are probably other ways of taking advantage of this as well.

You are not pointing it out. You are speculating on something that should be pretty clear from reading the OP, especially to you.
table for two on a tv tray
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 15:24 GMT
#696
Hi guys. Sorry about me being late and acting as a 'lurker'. I've caught up with the thread now.

What I would like to elaborate on is the Null Talisman. It's the first item we've seen and I think it might be potentially very dangerous (or good of course). Now that Koshi has revealed it, it will surely come into play fast.

Some thoughts:
1) Why did Koshi reveal it? It might be that it blocks his role in some way. Of course, he could just have given it away then anonymously. But now it makes him appear town?
2) Can we trust Clarity to give him the item? I would be very careful with that.
3) On the other hand, now it is revealed, we can be quite sure scum will be after it. If there is about 6 scum (?), there might be a thief and someone who can use it in their advantage.
4) If scum would want to steal the item, how many nights would it take for them to actually use it? One night to steal, one night to give to someone who can use it, one night to actually use it. That's a long time.
5) Has someone a better idea on how the item exchange works? When Koshi gives the item away and it gets stolen on the same night, what happens first? That which is PMed first?

On another note, I don't understand Slam at all. But I have the feeling he says important things in his posts.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2013 15:27 GMT
#697
Why do you feel you need to be sorry Felkyr?
The game has just started.
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Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 15:30 GMT
#698
Well, I have read several posts who 'blame' the lurkers.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 30 2013 15:31 GMT
#699
Extra information on my item: the effect only counts for the night you got it.
I had a good night of sleep.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2013 15:32 GMT
#700
On August 31 2013 00:30 Felkyr wrote:
Well, I have read several posts who 'blame' the lurkers.

I do not think you can be labeled as lurker if you just noticed the game started, read it, and commented on it.
Does anyone stand out to you as scummy so far?
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