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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2013 16:09 GMT
#721
On August 31 2013 01:05 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I think it is 100% clear based purely to OP that there is another anti-town faction that is Black Mesa. The way you brought the matter up is fishy and implies you are afraid of saying what you really think for some reason. I think that reason is because you are a member of mafia or Black Mesa and don't want to get killed by the other one, or lynched by town, because of "too much info".


Huh? We're coming to the same conclusion yet for some reason it makes me mafia? My argument about the balance was that I think Mesa is larger than smaller due to the rebalance concerns. I referenced the OP as support so it's not like I'm trying to hide knowledge or anything. Anyways, I'm going to drop it since it really was just setup speculation rather than anything super important. Push it if you wish.

Oh shit.. I am sorry, i fail at reading. I missed the word "large" in your post when you brought the matter up.
##Unvote;
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VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 30 2013 16:11 GMT
#722
Ya I just read kita and I think you're crazy now rayn. Kita's not even close to what I would consider lynchable today.

MOVING ON
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2013 16:12 GMT
#723
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.
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Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
August 30 2013 16:14 GMT
#724
Alrighty. It seems like there has been some interesting discussion going on. I very strongly think that unless the situation is extremely favourable for town, everyone except town should be killed. What I mean is, different 3rd parties are just as good as scum to me.

geript
Needs to be killed. Keeps begging for gun, has listed several people he would like to kill without proper reasoning. If he's town, he needs to step up and become serious. In my opinion, he hasn't shown any intent of playing pro-town. He tries to make some kind of contact with almost everyone, yet it's all non-committing.

yamato77
A general bad vibe. Flip-flops on WaveOfShadow. It feels like he's trying to establish a connection without content, as he doesn't want it to be a raised issue.
+ Show Spoiler +
On August 30 2013 22:31 yamato77 wrote:
Calm down, WoS. I just told you I'm not that interested in you atm.

It is impossible to say for sure yet, but a possibility is that he's trying to create a false sense of communication with a scumbuddy. There are many times when the scum player can be found not for his connections, but for the lack of them.

VayneAuthority
On August 30 2013 16:09 VayneAuthority wrote:
No I don't think he's scum yet but that he would be a good shot.

This single sentence alone (references to his opinion about me), is enough for me to raise my suspicions. If you're town, why would you want to kill someone that you think isn't scum? Especially without delving further into the matter, or not even mentioning if he thinks I could be a 3rd party? What I feel from this line is fear. And town does not need to fear me.

There is a ton of people flying under the radar at the moment, but for now there isn't very much to do about it. I'll be more than happy to pressure them, but given what we have seen already there are more urgent matters at hand.

@Koshi
May I please have your item? My powers exceed it's. I will forward it to anyone that town wants the next day.
Koshi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Belgium38799 Posts
August 30 2013 16:16 GMT
#725
If it is useless to you I am not going to give it. Then I can just keep it O.o.
I had a good night of sleep.
Stutters695
Profile Joined July 2012
2610 Posts
August 30 2013 16:16 GMT
#726
On August 31 2013 00:47 Felkyr wrote:
At this exact moment I wouldn't lynch anyone because I didn't hear of some people and others have been away for a long time. Most of what I read now seems like useless stuff.

That being said, I find Slam suspicious, but I'm not familiar with his usual play (who is The Taciturn One?).

Can I ask you the same question Stutters?

You. I'm pretty slow to roll out reads but your intro posts have said nothing but came off as you trying to not be identified as a lurker. I don't like it.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 16:17 GMT
#727
On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.


What?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
August 30 2013 16:17 GMT
#728
On August 31 2013 01:16 Koshi wrote:
If it is useless to you I am not going to give it. Then I can just keep it O.o.


It is not useless to me. As my mentioned, my powers are stronger than of the items. I can make good use of it for town. And the item will stay as is.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 30 2013 16:20 GMT
#729
cakepie, mkfuba, randombum, TheRavensName

With so many people who have done literally nothing this game, I'd be willing to bet my very life that there's at least one scum in this list.

I almost added ObviousOne to this list, but he's done one thing - which is one more than these dudes have done.

How do people feel about lynching into lurkers today? I'm for it.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2013 16:20 GMT
#730
On August 31 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.


What?

On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

I dunno. How did you not figure that out as they are clearly are a faction as stated in OP?
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Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 16:26 GMT
#731
On August 31 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.


What?

Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

I dunno. How did you not figure that out as they are clearly are a faction as stated in OP?


They're a faction, that doesn't make them a scumteam?
When I think scumteam I think a group of people who have nightly kp and win when everyone else is dead. We certainly don't know if either of those are true.
They COULD be a scumteam, they could not.
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
August 30 2013 16:30 GMT
#732
On August 31 2013 01:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.


What?

On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

I dunno. How did you not figure that out as they are clearly are a faction as stated in OP?


They're a faction, that doesn't make them a scumteam?
When I think scumteam I think a group of people who have nightly kp and win when everyone else is dead. We certainly don't know if either of those are true.
They COULD be a scumteam, they could not.

Scumteam, anti-town team, whatever.. but fair enough. Anyways i think we can agree that they are a team with more than one member that has a victory condition that probably will not help town win the game?
table for two on a tv tray
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 30 2013 16:30 GMT
#733
Here's the thing about hunting for and lynching specifically the Black Mesa faction from my perspective.

Scum's win-con is more or less known to us. They've got to, by some fashion, outnumber or equal town. That's their purpose, and that's how they win. What's Black Mesa's win-con? Anyone even DARE to guess?

We have no idea. Maybe they're town-flavored! Maybe they're on a secret team with the scumteam! We just don't know.

I'd rather spend time looking for people trying to push objectives that we KNOW are anti-town...people interested in killing townies, or people trying to keep scummy people alive, or people trying to steer discussion away from productiveness.

That being said, I'm going over a couple of filters of people I've marked as interesting - I provided a list of lurkers who, if you're unsure about who to vote for, would make a fine placeholder vote.

I think geript is scum. I thought he was scum based on how he entered the game, as I said, and I've thought that everything he's said since has been an anti-town influence on the game. If anyone disagrees with me, I'd love to discuss the matter.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Felkyr
Profile Joined August 2013
United States135 Posts
August 30 2013 16:30 GMT
#734
On August 31 2013 01:16 Stutters695 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 00:47 Felkyr wrote:
At this exact moment I wouldn't lynch anyone because I didn't hear of some people and others have been away for a long time. Most of what I read now seems like useless stuff.

That being said, I find Slam suspicious, but I'm not familiar with his usual play (who is The Taciturn One?).

Can I ask you the same question Stutters?

You. I'm pretty slow to roll out reads but your intro posts have said nothing but came off as you trying to not be identified as a lurker. I don't like it.


I said 'sorry' because people seemed angry at the people who didn't post yet. I don't understand why that is a big deal.
"… Every day, when I open the windows, my Koshi sings. It's marvelous."
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 30 2013 16:33 GMT
#735
cephiro, felkyr, obviousone all scum lol

this game is easy so far

cephiro - get softly discredited by multiple people for "caring about the game" when I play differently every game so it's just an excuse to have an opinion. My case is promptly swept under the rug and nobody ever mentions him again until he responds to my post.

Felkyr - how long did it take you to make that entrance post, an hour?

obviousone - Instead of going with town sentiment and finding me scummy he immediately jumps to a 3rd party conclusion since he knows I'm not on his scumteam. Very strange conclusion to draw this early in the game.

I come in for the scraps
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 16:34 GMT
#736
On August 31 2013 01:30 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2013 01:26 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:17 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 31 2013 01:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:
And yeah, that actually was important as some people (Clarity, Stutters) seem to have not noticed that. They are either not paying attention or they are scum.


What?

On August 31 2013 00:00 Clarity_nl wrote:
On August 30 2013 23:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see any point in bringing up a speculation of multiple scumteams, especially from kita, as the game OP clearly states there are multiple scumteams.


No it doesn't? Unless you consider Black Mesa a scumteam. But we know nothing of them

@Koshi, Turns out the amulet wouldn't be SUPER awesome on me, but it would still be good. Turns out I can't attempt to do stuff for which I don't have the resources

I dunno. How did you not figure that out as they are clearly are a faction as stated in OP?


They're a faction, that doesn't make them a scumteam?
When I think scumteam I think a group of people who have nightly kp and win when everyone else is dead. We certainly don't know if either of those are true.
They COULD be a scumteam, they could not.

Scumteam, anti-town team, whatever.. but fair enough. Anyways i think we can agree that they are a team with more than one member that has a victory condition that probably will not help town win the game?


Yeah I can agree on that.

On August 31 2013 01:30 VisceraEyes wrote:
I think geript is scum. I thought he was scum based on how he entered the game, as I said, and I've thought that everything he's said since has been an anti-town influence on the game. If anyone disagrees with me, I'd love to discuss the matter.


Sure. Do you think scum enters the thread in a way that immediately draws everyone's attention to them?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21170 Posts
August 30 2013 16:36 GMT
#737
Except it didn't - it ONLY drew MY ire Clarity. I'm the only one who had any issue with geript at the beginning of the game.
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
August 30 2013 16:37 GMT
#738
Also I have a very good reason to play very pro-town this game, so get off my nuts ty

already showed in my first post through elegant trickery that i'm not scum
I come in for the scraps
Cephiro
Profile Joined May 2011
Finland1934 Posts
August 30 2013 16:37 GMT
#739
On August 31 2013 01:33 VayneAuthority wrote:
cephiro - get softly discredited by multiple people for "caring about the game" when I play differently every game so it's just an excuse to have an opinion. My case is promptly swept under the rug and nobody ever mentions him again until he responds to my post.

On August 30 2013 15:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
Don't like his posting so far. attacking really stupid posts like geript asking for bullets and some guy asking if he can decide the lynch. and the geript lynch just seems predetermined and contrived as opposed to anything that he actually put thought into


If this is your "case", I am not wondering at all why people didn't even bother mentioning it. My name has popped up a few times though, you may want to be a bit more careful with your reading. Looking really bad for you.
Clarity_nl
Profile Joined November 2011
Netherlands6826 Posts
August 30 2013 16:38 GMT
#740
On August 31 2013 01:36 VisceraEyes wrote:
Except it didn't - it ONLY drew MY ire Clarity. I'm the only one who had any issue with geript at the beginning of the game.


Okay... I guess I can kinda agree with that, maybe.

Let's phrase it like this: Why would scum open the game by saying someone is "1000% confirmed scum" or whatever, knowing that that will MOST LIKELY draw attention to them, when they can easily avoid said attention by not opening in such a silly manner.

Is geript that ballsy of a scum player?
FIGHT THE GOOD FIGHT AGAINST STUPIDITY CLARITY, I BELIEVE IN YOU! - Palmar
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