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phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 10 2013 06:16 GMT
#277
On August 10 2013 15:11 Mocsta wrote:
Do we really have to do this?

con·vic·tion
[kuhn-vik-shuhn]
noun
1.
a fixed or firm belief: No clever argument, no persuasive fact or theory could make a dent in his conviction in the rightness of his position.
2.
the act of convicting; a declaration that a person is guilty of an offense.

No vote dude.. hes just trying to throw dirt around me, but let other people do the work. Then he can bandwagon on and take no responsibility when I flip. Classic scum play.

Stop lying already.
On August 09 2013 17:07 phagga wrote:
I agree with you guys that Hapa is probably jester.

Geript, I told you that Oats is my town read, why would I vote him? What kind of absurd logic is that? And I asked you for your reasons for the vote, how did I avoid it?

Mocsta, you know who else tries to stay alive? Town. I can't believe the crap you're writing.

##Vote: Mocsta



"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 10 2013 22:17 GMT
#344
Looks like I'm at the local Kindergarten, can someone please point me to the game of Mafia?

Jokes aside,
##unvote

I need to reevaluate my reads when I have some time.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 11 2013 22:10 GMT
#359
Why is that an odd kill? Oats was the guy everyoneread as town.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 11 2013 22:18 GMT
#361
No, I'm not. When I saw the night post I was fully awaiting oats to get killed. so why is it an odd kill to you?
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 00:20 GMT
#370
You did everything right, Mocsta. I failed to convince the others.

any comment on play is welcome.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 00:21 GMT
#371
*Any comment on my play is welcome.

Also, thanks a lot for hosting! I really liked the setup.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 00:32 GMT
#375
The oats kill was not odd at all. oats was the one refusing to kill me, while you were completely open to it. Of course he kills him.

Killing me was barely an option when I was an (at that point) easy misslynch, and killing you could have complicated things for Mocsta massively.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 00:35 GMT
#378
Ah ok, I see Mocsta saw the situation differenty regarding the NK. As I said, I fully expected Oats to die once I saw the Jester was gone.

Yeah, I realised later that I overdid it with the case, and I had no clue how to come back. i was actually putting together another post showing stuff that you misrepresented. But while checking your filter, I suddenly saw your vote
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 00:39 GMT
#379
In the end it was probably my most frustrating game so far. I had the whole game solved, knew who was scum, but was unable to convince the other townies. I raged so hard at times in front of the computer. That's probably part of the reason why my case was so overdone, i was so angry when I wrote it.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 00:48 GMT
#382
On August 12 2013 09:42 Mocsta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 09:39 phagga wrote:
In the end it was probably my most frustrating game so far. I had the whole game solved, knew who was scum, but was unable to convince the other townies. I raged so hard at times in front of the computer. That's probably part of the reason why my case was so overdone, i was so angry when I wrote it.

I did my job then

Of course. As I said, I failed to convince the others. Although I would have wished that geript would not have ignored me so often. But I probably should have insisted stronger.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 00:48 GMT
#383
I am the low hanging fruit
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 08:32 GMT
#403
On August 12 2013 17:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 16:58 Blazinghand wrote:
lynch proof is meaningless on day two

confirmed town yo.

Not if scum/jester counterclaims.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 08:59 GMT
#406
On August 12 2013 11:46 geript wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 12 2013 11:33 Mocsta wrote:
Lol Geript... I thought phagga best point was I kept saying ima townie..it was intentional
However.. the ones he quoted took the word use out of context
I'm sure there's plenty others I just used the word as sublimjnal confirmation and felt that coulda really damned me.

That's null for me entirely. You were town for me by process of elimination. Phagga's reactions read to me as if he had to think and analyze how best to respond instead of acting instinctively (which ironically was right). It was too much that he was trying to look town instead of being town.


It's interesting that you perceived it like this, because I was not intentionally trying to look like town. I thought if I'm able to point out where Mocsta is having a scum mindset, you'll rethink your position on me. However, I realize by now that I presented my points completely wrong. (I still think that some of them were actually good points at the time, I just presented them awfully).

As for kill Wifom, that's why I ended up ignoring it. Phagga looked more like scum to me and wifoming and dragging it out wouldn't I don't think have changed the decision unless you slipped really bad.

As for the insta-claim plan, the only way it fails IMO is if there are no unlynchable claims. That line of play takes all of the pressure off scum/jester to figure out how to respond. I'm not quite sure why it wasn't obvious to Oats/phagga immediately. I still caught you by the green/horny line. Oh we'll, I could've corrected at the end.


My first reaction to your plan was "hey, that's a cool idea", but then I immediatly asked myself what your exact motivation was. So I asked before claiming.

Btw, it is my experience that if player A does something scummy, and player B is trying to make player A scum for that point almost the whole game, then player B is probably scum. That was one of the main reasons why I thought Mocsta was scum in the first place. He was so focused on my reaction to the plan (which might not have been ideal), completely dismissed my explanations and ignored everything else I did. That made it obvious for me that he can't be town.

I've been caught in that trap a few times, (nominations comes to mind, or wheel of fortune), and I think I recognise it pretty well by now.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
phagga
Profile Joined February 2012
Switzerland2194 Posts
August 12 2013 10:27 GMT
#410
On August 12 2013 09:54 Blazinghand wrote:
looking for thoughts re: the setup also. I like the idea of jester+scum+2vt+unlynchable, specifically because of the possibility of unlynchable claim shenannies


I like the setup a lot. However, a second game would probably be much more predictable/harder for scum as people would figure out faster what the optimal play for each situation is. As Mocsta said, if we'd play the game again with the exact same people, scum chances to win would be very small.

I also liked the size of the game. I dislike the recent trends of 15+ minis, so this was a nice change.
"A person who does not concern himself with politics has already made the political choice he was so anxious to spare himself: he is serving the ruling party." - Max Frisch
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