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On August 01 2013 22:50 raynpelikoneet wrote: Seriously, Oats, you can´t deduce from reading the thread why i voted for Malongo, nor you can deduce why i was angry? You are either so fucking terrible at this game or scum. i´d say 99% scum. I think you should stop giving out percentages on your reads... On August 01 2013 07:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: vayne, fuck you. seriously. vote for FT now, i am a cop who has a green check on you from N1, you need to fucking vote for FT so we can stop this bullshit, Malongo is 99% town. You are going to lose the game for us with your stubborness. If you are town Rayn, you need to face the music and realize that you were simply wrong. The fact that you are just bashing Oats and calling him scum even thought it has NOTHING to do with the vote or what happened or anything is super scummy. Are you trying to figure out who is scum and who is town, or are you just trying to shove your reads down everyone's throat. Every other post of yours looks like: SCUMTEAM IS CORA/FT/OATS/NOT MALONGO SO WE NEED TO LYNCH ALL OF THESE PEOPLE AND YOU NEED TO LISTEN TO ME BECAUSE I AM YELLING PLEASE You're playing super defensive. How come? | ||
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On August 02 2013 01:31 cDgCorazon wrote: Admit it Rayn, you are wrong. You've been using shitty heuristics all game (confirmation bias, association cases before flips, refusing to look at anyone's arguments). What do you expect to happen when you are wrong? You voted for your town reads. Twice. Do you understand how scummy that looks Rayn? It's ridiculous. You're trying to drive an FT lynch home so much that you basically hard-defended Malongo. Then you just 180 on your Malongo read and vote for him. What gives? You were so resistant to vote out scum, and that looks super suspicious. I have all the intention to find mafia this game. In fact, I already did. At least I'm smart enough to not vote for people I think are 95% town and 99% town, respectively. Filter | ||
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On August 01 2013 06:27 raynpelikoneet wrote: The thing with Oats is that if he is town, he calls everyone scum when he sees a scummy post. Then he starts questioning them. Here he is far more conservative about his reads. town!Oats does not have zero scumreads 24h into D1, no fucking way. Also the fact that Oats & Cora are not on each other´s throats makes them both very likely mafia. Those are the two players who tunnel the shit out of people (besides me) and when they get into an argument they will not let go, usually even when they are clearly wrong, because they believe in theirselves. Now they are both just dropping some questions or minor shit on each other and not interacting with each other at all. That´s fucking fishy and that´s not how it goes when at least one of them is town. 2: Yet you still gave me a strong town read on N1. Why did you do that if I had done nothing to accomplish a mafia lynch on D1? 3: On August 01 2013 09:02 Aquanim wrote: Malongo the Strawberry Ruffian has been pushed off the boat! | ||
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2. So knowing my identity changed your N1 read on me? So now you are saying the case on me is based on meta? Why do I get different reads for the same post now that you know my identity? The same person has been typing on this account the whole game. 3. + Show Spoiler [Not In Chronological Order] + On August 01 2013 06:29 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: Why Malongo is scum and why we need to lynch him: Taking a look at Malongo's filter, it's kind of obvious that his guy is scum. I'll dissect his filter for a bit. His first major analysis post: This vote for hzflank is really poorly reasoned. He reads the first 24 hours of posts and that is all he can come up with? He votes for hz because hz was stating his opinion about LaL-ing and Malongo disagrees with it. If Malongo was really going to attack someone for the reason he attacked hzflank, he should have attacked the people who started the lurker lynching conversation to begin with. All in all, it looks like a forced case and a really bad entry into the thread, considering that it was late and he had a lot more information to work on. Then there is his vote on FT: What kind of vote is this? There's absolutely no explanation as to why he wants to vote for FirmTofu. He even admits that hzflank is still his top scumread, so why is he changing his vote to FT? It makes absolutely no sense. This was not even close to the end of D1. It's just an attempt by him to look like he is trying to scumhunt when in fact he isn't. He continues to push an hzflank lynch while his vote is still on FirmTofu (spoilered to condense the post): + Show Spoiler + On July 29 2013 06:44 Malongo wrote: This is hzflank on Paper: How can that be mafia if the game had just started? You expect something like a paper on who is mafia based on 10 pages of posts? guy addressed one by one each player and you get angry because he doesnt respond directly to you This is a lie as proof you can actually find the exchange that he actually answers you directly: So actually you are telling that you dont understand Paper so he is not town. See the logic flaw? Well actually his one sentence makes more sense to me than these case. He calls Vivax directly lurker because there was no reason behind his vote. How is that in any ways indicative of mafia? if something he liked your own way to be abrasive. What? most people look at Paper as null towards townie, I dont see anyone calling him town. What I am sure is your post is really forced towards Paper He then suddenly goes back to an hz lynch: While his vote is finally following his actual suspicions, why did he stray in the first place? And then there is the fakecheck, to which he responds: The fact that he wants the vigilante to shoot him to see if VA is telling the truth is really scummy. A town player would try to prove that he is town by his posting and his scum hunting. Malongo just goes out and asks for a vigilante hit on him. It's almost as if he was trying to bait out a vigilante shot knowing he was going to get lynched. It would be beneficial for scum because he could get rid of a vigilante shot and narrow the pool of blues down. The ragequit happened but as I said earlier: So, in summary: -Malongo's activity levels have been very unsatisfactory and he is trying to blend in -Has not done very much scum-hunting -His hz vote is really weak and he continued to push hz even after he had voted for FirmTofu -Voted for FirmTofu without any explanation and did nothing to push the FT lynch -Initial reaction from VA's fake-check was to draw out a vigilante shot (not totally scummy but there's possible scum motivation) -Ragequits are not 100% town-tells Malongo looks like the best lynch to me, and I hope you all can agree with me. On August 01 2013 05:45 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: Are the Malongo votes for realsies or are people just faking interest in lynching him? I still think he is very likely to flip scum if we lynch him. On July 30 2013 14:32 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: I would be down for a Malongo lynch. He's being scummy as fuck and has not scumhunted at all this game. Also, he still has yet to explain his hipster vote which is ridiculously scummy in a majority lynch voting system. ##Vote: Malongo On August 01 2013 06:55 IMCaptainJackSparrow wrote: At least FT is going to defend himself and he will scumhunt on D3. What is Malongo going to do? Nothing. We're going to sit here and think about Malongo's lynch some more because we didn't lynch him today. Basically if we keep Malongo around, the issue of lynching him is going to stick around every single day until we lynch him. Do you really want to be sitting at D5/6/7 with a complete question mark and a complete crapshoot in Malongo? I definitely would not want to do that. FirmTofu is going to continue to give us posts that will help us determine his alignment even more accurately. Malongo is going to continue to be a crapshoot. Let's get rid of the mystery earlier and get this town headed in a better and clearer direction. | ||
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Oats is totes town, to steal his vernacular. | ||
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2. That still does not explain why you gave me a town read and then said I didn't do shit D1. if I didn't do shit D1, why didn't you point that out when you made the read on me N1? 3. I'm not "half right". I'm 100% right. I said he was scum and he flipped scum. There's no room for me to be wrong. I pushed Malongo's lynch both because I thought he was scum and I thought he was the best lynch. My point about removing the giant question mark that was Malongo was another huge reason I wanted him dead. I could've easily switched over to the FT if I wasn't sure Malongo was scum and you wouldn't be having any of these issues with me. I stuck it out because I thought Malongo was the best lynch. When I left an hour before the deadline, I thought FT was dead. I was pretty surprised and happy to see that not only you guys listened to me, but that Malongo flipped scum and I was right. You are scum because you are using shitty heuristics to tunnel me and you defended Malongo pretty viscously. Clarity has been one of my strongest town reads all game, and accusing me of being scum does not make someone else scummy. If it makes you feel better, I will read into Clarity again. | ||
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On August 02 2013 02:41 raynpelikoneet wrote: No it still isn´t. Yes it has to do with meta, but it´s not an association case between you & Oats. Your play drastically changed from "trying to figure things out" -> "not trying to figure things out". I dunno why that is so hard to understand. lol Cora. I also said Malongo was scum when people were willing to vote for XRZ over him. What´s your point? I know you made a case on him, that does not make you town. Fair enough, you think i am scum. I don´t give a shit tbh, because i am going to die at last on N3. Because i am going to lynch mafia!Oatsmaster on D3. I thought I was going to be lynched tomorrow? | ||
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On August 02 2013 08:05 raynpelikoneet wrote: I genuinely believed Malongo was town and did not want to lynch a townie over FT who i believed and still believe is scum. Why in the world did you claim to get Vayne to vote with you? Did you really think Vayne was going to listen to you because you told him you got a town check on him? He's barely playing the game. | ||
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First of all, Rayn is scum because he resisted a Malongo lynch for so so so so long until it was obvious that his lynch target was not going to die. His cop claim is really sketch, especially with a Vayne check. Why would a cop check Vayne, and why would he claim cop just to get Vayne to vote for him? (He still hasn't answered this, he called out Vayne for bad town play yet he did not need to claim just to get Vayne to vote for FT. It doesn't make sense). He's just shitting up the thread with random-ass nonsense about how Oats is scum based solely on meta and how I'm scum by association with Oats. The logic is simply not there and it's obvious to me that he is just making cases to look like he is scumhunting. Secondly, I want to look into Stutters some more. I'm still not convinced that he is town. His play until D2 was really fishy, and he dodged the setup speculation question that I gave him. He still worries me. In the category of town reads, I'm only pretty secure on giving town reads to Oats (because he's not caring about the lynch or anything at all, what's new?), Clarity (because he has played a very focused game and is actively trying to solve it), and XRC (for being cop and getting Malongo lynched). The rest I'm still feeling null on, and if I don't die, I will work on splitting them up into town and scum. | ||
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On August 02 2013 09:06 exarezee wrote: i got roleblocked Who did you try to check? | ||
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On August 02 2013 09:10 exarezee wrote: oats Why Oats? Not Koshi or any of your other scum reads from the group of 5 you mentioned? | ||
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Because he doesn't think I am scum. Did you look at what he has posted? | ||
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On August 02 2013 10:10 exarezee wrote: I'm back on the computer. I can make a case against the others without a peek. This is assuming that the mafia did not have a roleblocker, (which I wish they didn't, because we could assume clarity is scum. I feel good about clarity being town now. I can now assume if someone else were roleblocked, they would have said something) I narrowed down my choice of peeks to justanothertownie, oats, or stutters. I don't have a good feel for their position. I decided to peek oats who was who rayn said he was going to peek. You need to read Rayn. | ||
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On August 02 2013 12:34 Clarity_nl wrote: rayn couldn't even hold his shit together for 5 seconds to see responses. Two possibilities. 1. rayn is scum 2. Oats is GF and it's why they let you have a check. Don't really understand why you would check vayne and then call him "obvtown vt bait" I'm pretty sure #2 would be ruled out if Rayn is telling the truth because of the red check. Also Rayn, you literally just 180d on EVERY SINGLE READ you have made in the game (besides the FT read). What gives? I think I need to read that again. | ||
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