EPTWhy do you exactly think Lazer is scum? He has definitely not said marv is 100% town in his eyes so that doesn't count.
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Why do you exactly think Lazer is scum? He has definitely not said marv is 100% town in his eyes so that doesn't count. | ||
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Dunno what to think about fuba, he needs to post more. | ||
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On July 01 2013 04:37 gumshoe wrote: No one has played with me as town  I am the wild card. My post was just saying I dont think your town just because you back Marv, though you were presenting it as if your doing him the favour. I was actually the first person to accuse you of anything (past stutters) though I dont think you'd make a good day one lynch. I'd be willing to lynch Stutters Oats or Jar Jar, thats what my posting boils down to, sorry for all the extra fat.I am not in any way sheeping marv, why do you say so? I am not "doing him a favour", i was trying to get him to work with me, allying with him, as i think we can catch scum together as we are both town and now i am telling people why i think he is town because apparently i am not allowed to have that opinion? Btw i have done that before, with a guy i thought might be SK at that moment. :D | ||
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You say that you will be looking to WoS if i would flip town. So you think i am right about WoS. Why the fuck do you want to lynch me first if you think either 1) i am right or 2) i am bussing him. You are making no sense now. Also you need to explain how solstice is scummy and how JarJar looks good. | ||
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On July 01 2013 05:18 Oatsmaster wrote: 1. Agreeing with people isnt buddying. 2. He basically said rayn is scum and stutters is town through his posts although he didnt use those words. 3. Where? 4. He made a case on solstice that none of you bothered to say why its bad. 5. Or agrees with people 6. So Im scum for attacking rayn? Scum used the same argument, 'stopping town discussion', on me before. Its not true. 1. Correct. However agreeing with someone but then not voting them at all, not questioning them at all and then attacking someone else is buddying. 2. Yeah, why did he not vote for me, or never questioned me about anything? 3. There, above. 4. Because solstice questioned people he thought are scummy. How the fuck is this "reaching"? He thinks Vivax is scummy for what were fair reasons, i understand the Lazer reasons too. He is trying to shut down the discussion and painting it as a case on solstice, which is fucking scummy. 5. No, recycles, as he is not voting or questioning his scumreads. 6. I actually don't know any more. Normally i would say no you're not but the fact that you call solstice scum and JarJar is your best friend because he agreed with you on something makes me think again. Also you did still not tell how solstice's posts are bad or why Jarjar's posts are good. | ||
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- I did think about the setup before the game started and decided what would be best for the town and best for the scum regarding miller claims (as that's pretty much all you can do beforehand). - I reached into a conclusion that millers should claim in their first post - to have a situation where noone is allowed to claim miller after D1. - I also decided that two millers is highly unlike and counted out that possibility. If there were two miller claims i would then decide which one of them is mafia and which is not. - I also decided that as mafia i - or anyone in my team - should not claim miller in any case. That would be a disaster if town actually had a miller, no worth risking that. When the game started: - I asked millers to claim asap. - marv claimed miller, and for what i said above i instantly thought he is town - In case of some bullshit i went on screaming "there can't be 2 millers", because of 1) I think there can't, 2) if i was wrong about marv and there was a town miller they would claim and then we would work on from there - what to do - I don't believe marv would have claimed miller as mafia, because there is a possibility that he could have been instantly outed (if town had one miller) and it is not worth risking, it just isn't. And don't give that "you are not taking account the possibility of no millers" bullshit because i did take that as a possibility, i only excluded the possibility of "scum fakeclaiming miller, unless dumb", and excluded that in marv's claim because not dumb. Am i being clear enough? | ||
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On July 01 2013 06:47 Vivax wrote: Yeah, 12 minutes of difference between the two games is a pretty big reason. Rayn having completely different opinions on miller claims in two different games with similar setups is totally not scummy. Why can't any of you understand that as the millers have role-names, it's too fucking risky to claim miller as mafia??!?!?!?!? If there was another miller claim, who is to say marv gets to say his role name last? Me? Certainly not. If someone had cc'd him i would totally have him claim his role name first, because marv has balls to do something like this. Not counting the fact that it's incredibly stupid, and no other miller claims proves even more that i am right in what i have said. | ||
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On July 01 2013 06:38 Vivax wrote: JarJar, question for you. Rayn gave Lazer a townread as reaction to me doing the same. Why did you call Rayn out but not me? What do you mean by this Vivax? | ||
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On July 01 2013 06:57 Vivax wrote: Other than that, I'm very interested in how your stutters read developed. You went from calling him scum early to stop talking about him (it was ME who asked him about the question YOU found scummy) and then casually saying you think his posting looked genuine, later. Could you portray your thought process for your change of read on stutters, in detail? No Vivax, i asked about the question from Stutters. Why are you pushing fake evidence? I fucking asked about it right after he posted. I changed my view after Oats posted about that situation. I havn't thought about it that way. His accusation towards me does not make sense from a town point of view, but on the other hand it does not make sense from scum point of view too. So it's more likely to come from a townie, as scum are usually more careful with their posting. | ||
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Also tell me how in normal setup it's harder to get away with a miller claim (if there are 0-2 millers) than in this one. | ||
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There are three people who should know how i work and how i develop my reads. WoS, Oats and Vivax. Oats becomes and idiot who tunnels someone for the whole phase, and by his other posts he looks very town. WoS, i don't really know what he thinks of me and why. Vivax is just... well saying nothing but asking me about stuff i have explained or debunked already. | ||
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On July 01 2013 07:18 Vivax wrote: Yeah you asked it in the start, after calling him out. You didn't give a shit about stutters after you posted your case and he came back to the thread. What my point here is, is that you didn't pursue him when you had the chance to. When your question went unanswered after stutters came back, it was me pointing it out, although I don't recall the timing of your comeback, nor can I know it. I don't see interactions from you with stutters. But when Oats asks you for your read on him while both of us gunned you, you said this: 1:45 later you say this: Yeah, i had not reread what Stutters had said after that, and when i started catching up i was posting when i read people's filters. That's also when i realized what Oats posted about him, this post: On June 30 2013 14:44 Oatsmaster wrote: So you are saying as scum stutters wants to throw suspicion on Rayn for something that scum dont know. I dont think this is really all the believable The rest i said about Stutters is why he is only slightly leaning on town and not more. | ||
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