[T] Nuclear Winter Mafia

On July 05 2013 01:44 WaveofShadow wrote:
Fuck it.
FUCK IT.

/in

On July 05 2013 09:36 Alakaslam wrote:
"I'm in deep!"

On July 05 2013 09:51 Dandel Ion wrote:
you probably don't know this, but girls don't always scream "OH GOD STOP" or "HELP"....

On July 05 2013 09:58 Dandel Ion wrote:
hue hue

On July 07 2013 07:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I will roleclaim!

I am The Defender Of The House Of Chezinu!

My objective is to kill all those who oppose the almighty GOD!
Therefore, as said, i will revenge-nuke anyone who is going to oppose the truth. Don't push me!

For mother Russia! For victory! For Chezinu!

On July 07 2013 07:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
How dare you MZ.
When have I EVER been useless?

On July 07 2013 07:14 raynpelikoneet wrote:
lol, Dandel is confirmed town for that.

On July 07 2013 07:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:

I'd be down for a rayn lynch since he defended his scumbuddy WoS.

On July 07 2013 07:20 austinmcc wrote:


'splain please

On July 07 2013 07:21 raynpelikoneet wrote:

Explain the similarities.

On July 07 2013 07:29 gumshoe wrote:


A wild card. I have no existing meta Geript, does that frighten you?

On July 07 2013 07:36 raynpelikoneet wrote:
You called me out for posting in red 1min into the game. How alignment indicative is that?

On July 07 2013 07:38 raynpelikoneet wrote:

@ geript: What do you think about this?

On July 07 2013 07:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Now you want to lynch me because of the first 20minutes into the game i decided to joke (mostly).

On July 07 2013 07:43 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I do not see a town motive for not reading the thread. Do you?

On July 07 2013 07:47 raynpelikoneet wrote:
gumshoe is supertown.

On July 07 2013 07:50 Xatalos wrote:


I've seen geript's scum play recently (PTP) and I can tell you, it's not like this. His current filter has almost more scumhunting than his filter in that game. That should tell something.

On July 07 2013 07:56 gumshoe wrote:
How do you feel about me feeling about how raynes feeling that I'm town?

On July 07 2013 07:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:

First part: I don't understand? Explain.

Second: What? That was about M_Z.

Why?

On July 07 2013 08:28 Ace wrote:
This feels very familiar. Didn't rayne get lynched because people jumped the gun on him in Carnival Cruise?

On July 07 2013 10:05 WaveofShadow wrote:
Geript, is my train is in the luv tunnel. Won't you climb aboard?

On July 07 2013 10:10 WaveofShadow wrote:
But honey I didn't make it obvious! How did you figure me out?

On July 07 2013 09:13 raynpelikoneet wrote:
- If gumshoe was mafia and you town - why would gumshoe tell you, a town player, how to meta-read him better as he has claimed he is always a "wild card" who is unreadable?
- If gumshoe is town and you town - makes sense, you don't waste time on him if you believe him, and he is telling the truth
- If you are both mafia - why say that in thread? actually why would either of you enter that discussion (pointless) in thread?

On July 07 2013 18:31 Chezinu wrote:


Monday, Jul 08 9:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00)

We may or may not have time.

Time of impacts of these nukes? I do not know. If the nukes work? I don't know. The Day 1 post had impact warnings. You probably as much as I do.

On July 07 2013 20:12 Xatalos wrote:
I agree that it's too early to call me or gumshoe "supertown" for some small early-game posts. But at least there's a logical reason here, so I'm not bothered about raynpelikoneet's early posts anymore. What I AM a bit bothered about is his admittance that your early pressure on him wasn't scummy after all, yet hesitating on saying how that affects his scumread on you. Why the weird reluctance? Well, I'm leaning town on him now anyway, so it's nothing too major.

Btw geript, johnnywup doesn't appear scummy at all to you?

On July 08 2013 03:48 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
VayneAuthority: hmm tricky one. On one hand his posts feel very natural and open which is good because it means he’s not hiding anything but on the other hand he’s been useless thus far. He’s another one I’m going to have to wait and see on.
Verdict: Null

Austinmcc: need to see some activity bro :/ I liked it when he was posting but now that it slacked off a bit I don’t like the feeling. If Austin comes back I’ll feel much better, if he stays away I’ll start thinking scum.
Verdict: Null

Alakaslam: For all the pregame spam he had he’s been very quiet now that the actual game has started. That coupled with his little martyr post (watch me be scummy by tomorrow morning) tells me that I should fulfill his prophecy.
Verdict: Possible Scum

Raynpelikoneet: lolscum
Verdict: Probably Scum

FirmTofu: said he needed a few minutes to read the thread, never got back.
Verdict: Someone vigi his ass

CaucasianAsian: One post talking about the thread.
Verdict: Someone vigi his ass

Chezinu: possibly town, don’t really feel like arguing with the jubjubs about this one.
Verdict: Possibly Town

Gumshoe: I actually agree with s&b that gumshoe’s constant talk of nukes is odd but I don’t think it’s damning. Aside from the nuke talk I actually didn’t really have any problems with gumshoe.
Verdict: Possible Town

Johnnywup: Really not as bad as people kept making him out to be. Sure his entrance post wasn’t good but he’s obviously trying and does not seem defensive or inherently guilty. He just looks like any regular noob player who rolled town.
Verdict: Probable Town

On July 08 2013 02:06 VayneAuthority wrote:
Even if johnny does flip town, there's been a lot of decent discussion on it so it gives us a bit to work with as a day 1 lynch.

Given how easy the bandwagon was, I would look at the people defending him for absolutely zero reason if he flips town. Scum tryin' to get dat town cred.

On the same token we can also analyze the people that are saying one thing and lynching john on the other once the flip occurs.

If he flips scum, then there's not much to say. Rayn is probably town if he flips scum for being just about the only person to defend him.

On July 07 2013 11:52 WaveofShadow wrote:

Well since you caught me I feel it's only fair.

It's me, Ace, SnB, CaucasianAsian, and of course I'm bussing johnnywup.

On July 08 2013 00:04 WaveofShadow wrote:
You know what's funny?
Both of the people voting for me currently have provided absolutely zero reasoning as to why I'm scum.

On July 08 2013 04:59 raynpelikoneet wrote:
How do you see me as lynch target FirmTofu? I have zero votes on me.

Also geript is totally town.

On July 08 2013 05:16 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
I like a vayne lynch.

On July 08 2013 05:22 raynpelikoneet wrote:
I also think ON is scum, what do you think about him geript?

On July 08 2013 05:28 VayneAuthority wrote:


I play differently in every single game so meta'ing me with a pretty bad choice. I will agree that the posted you quoted is intentionally scummy, I was trying to bait scum into trying to make some shitty case on it but I don't really think you're scum so it didn't work that well.

On July 08 2013 05:31 Xatalos wrote:
I guess it's time to do this.

##Unvote

Not completely sure yet about who we should lynch instead.

On July 08 2013 05:34 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:


There's no real way to read chezinu. He's always like this. In fact, you speculate this earlier:



Chezinu is just a crazy guy. Don't try to get all up on some high horse like you're trying to push a real lynch. You just want to lynch chezinu because he's acting like chezinu? No, even then you'd have other things to say about other players. You are scum who is trying to look productive by attacking a guy who's just like insane. Nice try but it's not gonna fly, brother.

##vote Onegu

On July 08 2013 05:35 VayneAuthority wrote:


Right now im looking at johnny and Caucasian. I already placed my vote/reasoning on johnny if you filter me so now to caucasian...

filler post then the old I'm drunk thing so I can't help town.

When do drunk posts ever turn back town unless it's like BH? It's such a cop out. If you're drunk don't post or at least try harder then that.

If he's town I really have no regrets as he is giving us nothing to work with

On July 08 2013 05:37 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:


He asked if Chezinu is, and I quote, "just crazy"

On July 08 2013 05:43 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:


When you played your first (town) game with chez you knew or found out right away what kind of player he was, and didn't waste your time on him. I was the same way. Any town player who sees someone acting so clearly insane and anti-town tries to look for an explanation, besides just "he is scum" because as a town player you don't trust anything or anyone. You don't trust the obvious. You see someone acting like Chez and you don't think "ah, this veteran is obvious scum" because that's not how you think. No, you see him acting that way and you ask "why", and not just rhetorically. You ask the thread. You find out he's insane. And you act on it.

That's not what Onegu has done here.

On July 08 2013 05:56 austinmcc wrote:
What is my town meta? More specifically, my town meta in a large game?

Also, do you have interest in the answers to the questions that I have asked, but have not gotten answers to?

On July 08 2013 06:02 austinmcc wrote:

Mainly because I've not been saying anything, but been seeing a couple posts saying I'm not playing like my normal town self. Add the vote and his reasoning for it, and I care about the answers to the questions I asked, given the bolded bit.

On July 08 2013 07:56 Alakaslam wrote:
Geript, my ally: what thinks ye of Ace? You know far more about this great one than I.

On July 08 2013 11:22 Chezinu wrote:

Austin knows.

On July 08 2013 12:08 Oatsmaster wrote:

WHO CARES THAT ITS A NUKE GAME

On July 08 2013 12:19 Oatsmaster wrote:

stupid game

On July 08 2013 13:16 geript wrote:
Oh Onegu,
Wherefore art thou mind which I seek
Thou hast wrought that which is naught but dearth in my thought
What boards dost thou meander over and creak
Wherefore art thy answers that thou sought

On July 08 2013 14:39 Oatsmaster wrote:
why do I get a day 1 pass?

On July 08 2013 16:57 raynpelikoneet wrote:

FirmTofu was confirmed town from his post where he talked about me.

On July 09 2013 03:42 austinmcc wrote:
DI is more of a known quantity and therefore his uselessness/lurkiness/early posts can be compared to his behavior in other games or what people expect out of him.

Afaik, abenson and caucasianasian are not in that boat. Also, while I like Dandel Ion, caucasianasian is a much better name and is fun to write. If he dies, we are unlikely to type out his name.

On July 09 2013 03:57 WaveofShadow wrote:

What in your opinion constitutes getting 'srs?'
It's not even that you still find me scummy for whatever inane reasons you may still have, but it's the fact that you feel you need to remind the thread every other post you make. Tell me that's not how you played scum in The Game, I dare you.

On July 09 2013 04:18 Xatalos wrote:


How so?

On July 09 2013 06:20 Nirvana.Gabo wrote:
ON claimed a PR, i don't see hwy that wouldn't change your view of his alignment

On July 09 2013 06:31 austinmcc wrote:
How is the claim too bad?

On what principle do you want to lynch him?

On July 09 2013 12:03 Ace wrote:
With what exactly?

On July 09 2013 12:56 Ace wrote:
Just because I didn't call you out doesn't mean I don't think you are possibly scum.

rayne never moved his vote off of ON which I think paints him in a bad light.

Why did you jump off and back on anyway? Also why were you never voting for DI? Your vote started on CA because you thought DI was a possible mislynch wagon and called CA fluff. If you read what Dandel posted to start the game why dont you consider him fluff too?

On July 09 2013 14:16 Chezinu wrote:
*pushes geript off the psychiatrist couch and proceeds to lay down*

It all started day 1. I came to realize who I was or rather I thought it was who I was. I had this feeling as if I were dead, not that I knew what that would be like...

On July 09 2013 14:41 Chezinu wrote:

oh, I getz a hat! I would choose the otter-fur hat. Cause you know, winter is coming. I win by eliminating the opposition! To do that I shall... I has no nukes... uh getz people to vote the bad guys? or perhaps you can provide me with some nukes that I could fire at the bad guys?

On July 09 2013 21:20 Ace wrote:


you know I dont do this. I've addressed this in THIS game and in every game I've ever played on this site. Stop it.

On July 09 2013 22:21 Xatalos wrote:


Wtf? He didn't launch the nuke, so how could he explain his reasons for targeting Meapak? Are you even reading now?

On July 09 2013 22:11 Xatalos wrote:
1) I do not believe rayn has the capacity to launch a nuke. In that case, he would have surely launched it at Chezinu regardless of his alignnment (even as scum it would be stupid to launch at someone else and then claim a bit later).
2) Scum do not act rashly or carelessly, they are careful and serious. This is everything but careful and very risky for little if any gain (as scum). See the point?
3) See above.

On July 09 2013 23:00 Xatalos wrote:
Why don't I ever get KPs? :/

On July 09 2013 23:07 Xatalos wrote:


I didn't say that scum never act carelessly. That's just one example from a game where the scumteam was overall very careful and not involved in noticeable incidents (except the Mortal Kombat and austin at endgame, but then he had already scumclaimed). And I have never been rash as scum, nor anyone in my teams (maybe excluding Acro's fakeclaim in GoT or jaybrundage's shenanigans in Dessert Mini). Point is, it's not common compared to townish rashness.

On July 10 2013 04:04 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Lying is not necessarily bad. I lie more as town than i do as mafia.

On July 10 2013 05:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
Sorry guys I'm currently busy in the name of justice.

On July 11 2013 09:30 Stutters695 wrote:
Nah that'd be dumb.

On July 11 2013 09:30 austinmcc wrote:
Maaaaan, how come your reads aren't my read. I don't like xatalos for mafia, and I don't really think Onegu is scum, based on the roles that make sense for him to be kind of sort of dancing around having.

On July 11 2013 07:52 Xatalos wrote:

Now that I think about it, if I was scum and in Oatsmaster's situation, I would very possibly use it on a townie to gain easy towncred. Of course if there was an active and somewhat townish scum player, that might be an OK target as well... Although it might backfire heavily if one of you two flipped at any point. Yeah, it's definitely safer to use it on townie. Especially if there is nobody even semi-townish in the scumteam, it would basically be suicide to save any of your scumbuddies, and saving even just a *semi*-townish player would cast doubt on you.

On July 11 2013 10:27 austinmcc wrote:
Ahahahaha. i c wut u did there geript

On July 11 2013 11:02 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im currently grappling with the fact that Maju could be bad townie or scum. He hasnt really chimed in a lot about the major happenings of the game like rayns fake nuke thing and of all the nukes, only defended WoS from being scum.
Then again, he looks like hes putting in effort to play the game unlike other people.

On July 11 2013 11:06 VayneAuthority wrote:


If oats is scum then well played, he's been saving my town reads all day. Will deal with him at lylo if I have to.

On July 11 2013 11:18 VayneAuthority wrote:


Ace isn't gonna get lynched. He's only dying to a nuke or night kill. Theres like 15 lurkers in this game and he's actively giving us info to work with, how would he get lynched? lol

On July 12 2013 01:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ace who are you voting?
I'll sheep you because I haven't followed the thread as closely as I normally can, and I'm decently sure you're town.
Oats you too.

On July 12 2013 01:14 WaveofShadow wrote:
Ace who are you voting?
I'll sheep you because I haven't followed the thread as closely as I normally can, and I'm decently sure you're town.
Oats you too.

On July 12 2013 01:25 WaveofShadow wrote:

To be fair, didn't you guys accuse me of the same thing when I redirected the MZ nuke?

##Vote: Maju

On July 12 2013 01:43 FirmTofu wrote:

geript, do you have 2 shot defense or one shot?

On July 12 2013 01:49 FirmTofu wrote:

Because you can somewhat confirm Oats as town. If you are 1 shot, we need to be looking at Oats extremely seriously. If you are 2 shot, Oats could still be both alignments.

On July 12 2013 01:50 geript wrote:

Why would him being a 2 shot and me being a 1 shot make any difference? Couldn't he just be a scum 2 shot guy?

On July 12 2013 01:54 FirmTofu wrote:

Not sure how the roles are distributed on TL, but isn't this rather unlikely? Why would some town blues be strictly better than others? If I am wrong in this assumption, then don't bother telling me. I don't understand why you don't want to say one way or another, though.

On July 12 2013 02:01 Xatalos wrote:


Thanks.

But if you're town, now you're gonna be killed..... Since you have a day-KP. And you never got to use it.

On July 12 2013 02:08 FirmTofu wrote:

You explicitly stated that you wanted to nuke someone before you died. If you are town, you would probably expect to die tonight. Is it not in your best interest to use your nuke before night ends? Do you plan on doing so?

On July 12 2013 02:16 Xatalos wrote:


Isn't it the first 36 hours of any dayphase? Or that + night? If so, then good.

Btw are you planning to save jampidampi and for what reason? Everyone agreed to it (although apparently MajuGarzett himself preferred VA). Then jampidampi proceeded to ragequit - or actually he came back (unlike XigXag) but just defended some accusations and complained (although there was one okayish post on MajuGarzett). Is that really enough to use your anti-nuke considering what little jampidampi has done all game (almost only the rayn claim analysis)?

On July 12 2013 02:21 austinmcc wrote:
Read through, not entirely processed.

I don't think someone being immune one = them being town. I actually thought Onegu was crumbing some kind of radiation medic, he seemed to know how radiation worked, how it killed, but claimed no nuke. That role seemed very townie to me.

For no raisin, I'm assuming that with some of these roles that exist in multiples, some of there were assigned to scum. But if we start seeing 3 people claiming 48-hour unstable nukes, immune ones, defense grids, etc. then I think it's ALMOST a listcheck saying someone in that bunch is scum. Immune one a perfectly fine mafia role tbh, if they have any radiation nukes they can drop em on townies OR on a known immune one and use it as extra KP from thereon out, irradiating people.

As best as I can tell...Ace is not nuked anymore, and was given a nuke by an unknown. Maju had a nuke, and used it on jampi? He did not claim it until recently, and did not say whether he has had it the whole time or how it came into being? And also...sentinel nuked DI/XigXag, but did not claim from whence his nuke came? Is that...the nuking story as it sits right now?

On July 12 2013 02:26 FirmTofu wrote:

Town MajuGarzett could do either, I think. An unconfident Town Maju would rely on other people's reads because he doesn't trust himself to be good enough at the game. He might also think that if he listens to others, people might back off the lynch on him. A confident Town Maju would go with the VA lynch.

I just don't see any reason to believe that Maju is an experienced, confident player.

On July 12 2013 02:29 Alakaslam wrote:

Have you? What would you think of his meta then?

On July 12 2013 02:34 FirmTofu wrote:

I might as well address this...
1. Nope, not really. Yeah, last game I was a bit more active early on but that was because there was so much less to read. In this game, it takes me a lot longer to catch up and form reads.
2. You might want to expand on this. I am doing a good job at finding reads(Vayne and jampi) and pushing them as evidenced by my fervor to tunnel both of them to oblivion.
3. Role fishing? Where? Please point me to one post where I role fish. I will address it directly.
4. This isn't even a point against me.

You yourself said that you don't use meta to form reads but all I see in this accusation are meta arguments. Do you have a better reason to accuse me or are you simply defending your scumbuddy Ace?

On July 12 2013 02:37 FirmTofu wrote:

Ok, let me make this easy for you.

Is your role the Immune One?

On July 12 2013 03:18 johnnywup wrote:




this is really sad geript lol

On July 12 2013 03:49 Xatalos wrote:


How come?

On July 12 2013 04:00 FirmTofu wrote:
geript, if you are town, you are playing against your alignment. How can you honestly say that jampidampi is the most likely to be town out of all the immune one claims?

I had a town read on you all game until now. Ugh.

On July 12 2013 04:04 austinmcc wrote:
geript wtf. The OP says there are many different types of nukes. You're making an assumption that explicitly is contradicted by host text.

You assume he becomes "superpowered," which people keep saying, but I don't think that word means what they think it means. Nobody yet has claimed to gain superpowers from being nuked, and that makes no sense.

You assume there's an "infinite vig" for no reason.

You just...the whole situation is still the same. Now what, we lynch him? And he either flips town or scum. You didn't do anything but kick a can down the road, as far as my initial thoughts play out. Going "we don't know if he's town or scum" is meaningless, because we still don't, and ....... whargl blargl. That's about it.

On July 12 2013 04:09 Xatalos wrote:
1) Are there other than Radiation nukes in the game?

Artanis: Yes

2) Is a plain "nuke" the same as a "Radiation nuke"?

Artanis: No

I even clearly tell of this fact on the thread for everyone to see:



WHY THE HECK DID YOU DEFEND WITHOUT CONSULTING ME FIRST GERIPT????? ARE YOU SCUM AFTER ALL?????

On July 12 2013 04:15 FirmTofu wrote:

You still haven't explained why you made the assumption that all nukes are radiation nukes. Why are you getting all defensive? Justify your actions from a town perspective.

On July 12 2013 04:15 FirmTofu wrote:

You still haven't explained why you made the assumption that all nukes are radiation nukes. Why are you getting all defensive? Justify your actions from a town perspective.

On July 12 2013 04:30 Xatalos wrote:
Worst of all is that you just did it (with 100% faulty logic as your reasoning!!!) without asking anyone. Like, wtf? Can you be this anti-town as town?

On July 12 2013 05:05 FirmTofu wrote:
Hey out of class but still on phone. We need everyone that is on the Vayne wagon to get their asses on the jampidampi wagon now. We've only got 2 hours till lynch so this needs to happen ASAP.

On July 12 2013 05:15 austinmcc wrote:
The timing is butt. But...he was the leading lynch candidate, and had picked up 3 votes within the last chunk.

If he thinks he's actually going to die, and has a nuke, the TOWNIE thing to do is to go "holy balls I have 2 hours town who should I fire this at." The SCUMMY thing to do is fire at whoever he'd like, a strong townie, given that he thinks he's going to die.

Except I think all of this is kind of blown apart by the fact we had multiple missile defense claims so scum can't obvi-nuke someone with time left in day and expect it to work just fine.

I dunno, gut read is that asking frigging town for where to send a nuke is NOT scummy behavior. Not saying he had a nuke earlier is, but...town controlling things is generally in town's favor.

On July 12 2013 05:18 geript wrote:

Go look at his filter. He claimed that it was unstable and that's why he fired it.

On July 12 2013 05:15 austinmcc wrote:\
If he thinks he's actually going to die, and has a nuke, the TOWNIE thing to do is to go "holy balls I have 2 hours town who should I fire this at." The SCUMMY thing to do is fire at whoever he'd like, a strong townie, given that he thinks he's going to die.

On July 12 2013 05:29 austinmcc wrote:
Or maybe we just get people to vote for legitimate reasons and then analyze their votes and reasons.

geript, icons next to names are just...e-peen. They denote length and girth.

On July 12 2013 06:04 austinmcc wrote:




I don't think you can break it down like this, at least if you're doing the above to say "Vote maju!"

maju votes onegu for weak reasons in your points above. What about jampi's D1 votes? Are they unimportant? Do you know where they went and why? Is tunneling more or less scummy than just not doing ANYTHING about scumreads?

On July 12 2013 06:03 Xatalos wrote:


2. Not sure what you mean here (?)
3. True, but I can't say that my original points against johnnywup were good either (pretty null IMO, slightly scummy at most)
4. I agree his stance on Onegu/Chezinu seems weird - first votes Onegu for pressure voting Chezinu, then starts saying that Chezinu hasn't yet given real answers (weird, maybe scummy)
5. Yeah can't say that he feels like figuring new stuff out this game (scummy)
6. Actually he never said he suspected jampidampi, he just obeyed what people (FT, me etc.) said - where did you get that he suddenly suspected jampidampi? (?)

On July 12 2013 06:25 Xatalos wrote:
If we end up lynching MajuGarzett and he flips town, I'm going to rage so hard at geript.

On July 12 2013 06:27 jampidampi wrote:
scumreads already mentioned, Xatalos, geript, Ace, Onegu and CaucasianAsian (weak read) are town. haven't have time to check austin, can't make sense from johnny, vayne or chezinu, rest pretty much null

On July 12 2013 06:33 johnnywup wrote:

I mean, he could just be trying to gain town cred.

On July 12 2013 06:34 jampidampi wrote:

Says the one who claims that his meta is different every single game.

On July 12 2013 06:49 jampidampi wrote:
Read my filter in I Swear Mafia. Compare it my filter in this game. If you think a town Vayne, who is know to be highly analytical, could missrepresent the differences like this, then please tell me how. There is no way he came to those conclusions. Vayne is scum.

On July 12 2013 06:58 FirmTofu wrote:

But don't nuke someone else without consulting us first. (looks at geript)

On July 12 2013 08:58 Z-BosoN wrote:


Help me out. View SnB/austin interaction and see what you think of it

On July 13 2013 03:49 Koshi wrote:

1) What happened between shooting down the nuke to prevent jampi dieing and you voting for jampi getting lynched?
2) Why didn't you shoot down the nukes for Ace and Xatalos? Do you think Xatalos and Ace are scummy/were scummy on the moment the nuke was flying towards them?
3) Do you believe GM is scum?
4) Do you still believe that taking down that nuke was a good idea? If not, when did you change your mind?

I believe that you made not-logical steps.

+ Show Spoiler +
About this post.
1. What are you saying here? If the nukes fall or not we still have an infinite vig or something akin to it...
2. You are happy that we don't have to deal with a town with superpowers? This is a reason to let the nuke fall.
3. that would be why you don't defend him. Another reason to let the nuke fall.
4. The only reason I read why you would shoot the nuke. What superpower were you expecting?
5. This would be a reason to let the nuke fall.

Am I missing the point?

On July 13 2013 07:24 Ace wrote:
and we'll wait till we see if this nuke is legit before doing so. FirmTofu could also produce nukes, so he probably gave one to an active player so we still have options.

On July 13 2013 07:32 Koshi wrote:

That would make sense indeed. Sometimes you do make logical posts.

On July 13 2013 07:51 Ace wrote:


Where did you see him say that? He hid it in his filter?

On July 13 2013 10:59 WaveofShadow wrote:
Actually, I remember your dick-move analysis. So never mind.
So you've essentially called me scum all game, never wavering from it, and because of one post I make you immediately flip that around?

On July 13 2013 11:03 WaveofShadow wrote:
Why weren't you pushing me before that?
Why didn't you make a case on me?
You limply left your vote on me until nearly the end of D1 for basically zero reason and then you jumped on board the ON fail-wagon.

I seem to remember you in one of our earlier games (I can't remember which it was, I looked) saying something about how you never pushed a read all game as scum. It's funny because this reminds me of that play. The endless early tunnel also reminds me of your scumplay in The Game, as I mentioned earlier. Have you gotten better overnight? No, you've gotten better over the course of quite a few scumgames that you've had.

Let's assume you ARE town right now, however. Let's also assume MG is being nuked and he is not on the table. Who is your scumread?

On July 13 2013 10:35 geript wrote:
Idk why everyone wants to nuke Maju instead of lynch him. We 100% know that there are multiples of multiple roles. A nuke could be redirected in the last minute which would be devastating. A highly suspected scummier could defend him last minute. He could somehow be immune to the nuke. The best action would be to lynch him and fire nukes elsewhere. Hell if you think that I'm scum with Maju, wouldn't I just shoot it down last second? Take the sure route and lynch him.