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On July 15 2013 06:23 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 06:21 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:17 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 15 2013 06:12 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:07 geript wrote:On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote:
@geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now.
Could you link please. Trying to read like 8 things at once. On July 15 2013 04:33 Ace wrote:
Let me try and put things in order here.
1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard.
2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters.
The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia. On July 15 2013 06:08 Z-BosoN wrote:Ace you want to kill SnB. Whatever happened to: On July 12 2013 07:21 Ace wrote:
snb hasn't been playing like himself in CCM at all. He's far more laid back in this one. The only issue with him is he claimed out of the blue. If he is scum he's managed to avoid every important wagon and discussion, only to attract attention for that claim? Is this metagame argument you gave the only reason you want to kill SnB for? That is not the reason I want to kill SnB. Read what I just quoted. I'm sorry, I can't seem to find the reason from what you quoted. You are basically building your case for SnB on the premise that having 4 immune ones in one game is way too anti-town and is not a plausible set-up. This is the metagame argument I referring to. Is there any other reason you want to lynch SnB for other than: 1) He's lurky 2) There can't be 4 dudes spreading radiation? Just to be clear. Yes. I don't think that 4 Town IOs exist. Him being lurky is part of it, but the IO thing is the biggest. Add in its austin/vayne/stutters situation or this one in my mind, and I think this is much simpler to solve. No other reasons outside of that. Also, I think it now comes down to him and austin, and I don't think there is enough evidence to convict austin. What he is saying makes sense: Vayne, if he has no nukes may not be notified he was raided. Vayn'e case against austin went off because he didn't get mod confirmation and felt something was fishy. Hey Ace. Triple-cop-claim-caper. I'm not gaming a closed setup like this.
3 cops with sanity issues versus 4 roles that can spread radiation?
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There are actually quite few lurkers now. The only people left that I would classify as lurkers are gumshoe, strongandbig, and CA
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On July 15 2013 06:24 Ace wrote:
there are several lurkers Wos, you want us to just burn through all of them?
The ones we have some reason to burn through, yes.
We had reason to burn through DI but people decided otherwise.
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On July 15 2013 06:21 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 06:17 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 15 2013 06:12 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:07 geript wrote:On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote:
@geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now.
Could you link please. Trying to read like 8 things at once. On July 15 2013 04:33 Ace wrote:
Let me try and put things in order here.
1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard.
2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters.
The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia. On July 15 2013 06:08 Z-BosoN wrote:Ace you want to kill SnB. Whatever happened to: On July 12 2013 07:21 Ace wrote:
snb hasn't been playing like himself in CCM at all. He's far more laid back in this one. The only issue with him is he claimed out of the blue. If he is scum he's managed to avoid every important wagon and discussion, only to attract attention for that claim? Is this metagame argument you gave the only reason you want to kill SnB for? That is not the reason I want to kill SnB. Read what I just quoted. I'm sorry, I can't seem to find the reason from what you quoted. You are basically building your case for SnB on the premise that having 4 immune ones in one game is way too anti-town and is not a plausible set-up. This is the metagame argument I referring to. Is there any other reason you want to lynch SnB for other than: 1) He's lurky 2) There can't be 4 dudes spreading radiation? Just to be clear. Yes. I don't think that 4 Town IOs exist. Him being lurky is part of it, but the IO thing is the biggest. Add in its austin/vayne/stutters situation or this one in my mind, and I think this is much simpler to solve. No other reasons outside of that. Also, I think it now comes down to him and austin, and I don't think there is enough evidence to convict austin. What he is saying makes sense: Vayne, if he has no nukes may not be notified he was raided. Vayn'e case against austin went off because he didn't get mod confirmation and felt something was fishy.
I dunno man, I feel it's bad play lynching based on setup spec, solely. I remember that in liquid city there were like 5 claimed medics and I was desperate to lynch into them because I thought it would be dumb to have that much.
ALso, please tell me what you think about these thoghts I put forth against an SnB lynch:
On July 15 2013 06:10 Z-BosoN wrote:After some more reading on SnB: SnB is playing fucking shitty but I have no idea whether it alludes to anything in his alignment. This post here sounds kinda genuine: Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 05:02 strongandbig wrote:
fucking hell geript
dip-shit
there are clearly anonymous scum nukes targeting strong town players if you have a town defense why in the hell would you not save it to stop the anonymous scum nukes on townies. The only alternative I see plausible with this post is if both SnB and Geript are in a scumteam. From Chrono Trigger mafia I remember that he liked setting up these kinds of plays, and snb hasn't really done much in pressuring geript because of it. But anyways, I'll go with the simplest case, that to me, geript is actually town and that scum SnB wouldn't overreact that harshly if he knew that jampi was town. Also, he claimed his role at a stupid-ass time, which kinda leads me down the lazy townie path. I dunno.
I think it was you that said earlier that we shouldn't lynch into active folks, because in the endgame we will be going with lurkers and scum.
I want to propose that we follow suit with WoS and lynch gumshoe, who has ninja-voted stutters and is completely useless in this game, with a fair chance of being scum.
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On July 15 2013 06:25 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 06:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 06:21 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:17 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 15 2013 06:12 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:07 geript wrote:On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote:
@geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now.
Could you link please. Trying to read like 8 things at once. On July 15 2013 04:33 Ace wrote:
Let me try and put things in order here.
1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard.
2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters.
The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia. On July 15 2013 06:08 Z-BosoN wrote:Ace you want to kill SnB. Whatever happened to: On July 12 2013 07:21 Ace wrote:
snb hasn't been playing like himself in CCM at all. He's far more laid back in this one. The only issue with him is he claimed out of the blue. If he is scum he's managed to avoid every important wagon and discussion, only to attract attention for that claim? Is this metagame argument you gave the only reason you want to kill SnB for? That is not the reason I want to kill SnB. Read what I just quoted. I'm sorry, I can't seem to find the reason from what you quoted. You are basically building your case for SnB on the premise that having 4 immune ones in one game is way too anti-town and is not a plausible set-up. This is the metagame argument I referring to. Is there any other reason you want to lynch SnB for other than: 1) He's lurky 2) There can't be 4 dudes spreading radiation? Just to be clear. Yes. I don't think that 4 Town IOs exist. Him being lurky is part of it, but the IO thing is the biggest. Add in its austin/vayne/stutters situation or this one in my mind, and I think this is much simpler to solve. No other reasons outside of that. Also, I think it now comes down to him and austin, and I don't think there is enough evidence to convict austin. What he is saying makes sense: Vayne, if he has no nukes may not be notified he was raided. Vayn'e case against austin went off because he didn't get mod confirmation and felt something was fishy. Hey Ace. Triple-cop-claim-caper. I'm not gaming a closed setup like this. 3 cops with sanity issues versus 4 roles that can spread radiation?
We don't even know what the radiation DOES, do we?
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Gumshoe will get what's coming but I'd rather address either the immunes or Austin. The longer it's unresolved the more it dominates discussion and the less we get done.
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On July 15 2013 06:25 johnnywup wrote:
I'm sorry Ace but what? There's not enough evidence on Austin but there IS enough evidence on SnB? Yes it's unlikely theres 4 IOs but it's possible and he's pretty lurky but is that really evidence that he's scum? I don't really think so. He may very well be scum but that's hardly enough to say so certainly that he is.
austin has answered everything thrown at him hasn't he? Do any if his explanations seem off?
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yes i do think some explanations have been off. and to be clear, do you think austin is town?
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On July 15 2013 06:26 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 06:25 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 06:21 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:17 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 15 2013 06:12 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:07 geript wrote:On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote:
@geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now.
Could you link please. Trying to read like 8 things at once. On July 15 2013 04:33 Ace wrote:
Let me try and put things in order here.
1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard.
2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters.
The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia. On July 15 2013 06:08 Z-BosoN wrote:Ace you want to kill SnB. Whatever happened to: On July 12 2013 07:21 Ace wrote:
snb hasn't been playing like himself in CCM at all. He's far more laid back in this one. The only issue with him is he claimed out of the blue. If he is scum he's managed to avoid every important wagon and discussion, only to attract attention for that claim? Is this metagame argument you gave the only reason you want to kill SnB for? That is not the reason I want to kill SnB. Read what I just quoted. I'm sorry, I can't seem to find the reason from what you quoted. You are basically building your case for SnB on the premise that having 4 immune ones in one game is way too anti-town and is not a plausible set-up. This is the metagame argument I referring to. Is there any other reason you want to lynch SnB for other than: 1) He's lurky 2) There can't be 4 dudes spreading radiation? Just to be clear. Yes. I don't think that 4 Town IOs exist. Him being lurky is part of it, but the IO thing is the biggest. Add in its austin/vayne/stutters situation or this one in my mind, and I think this is much simpler to solve. No other reasons outside of that. Also, I think it now comes down to him and austin, and I don't think there is enough evidence to convict austin. What he is saying makes sense: Vayne, if he has no nukes may not be notified he was raided. Vayn'e case against austin went off because he didn't get mod confirmation and felt something was fishy. Hey Ace. Triple-cop-claim-caper. I'm not gaming a closed setup like this. 3 cops with sanity issues versus 4 roles that can spread radiation? We don't even know what the radiation DOES, do we?
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It's fucking radiation. You think its gonna turn us into X-men?
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Also my read on Austin is capable of changing. My read on someone lurking as hard as SnB won't and we'll have to deal with him. I'd rather sooner rather than later.
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Man this is so frustrating. The last game I played had like 80% lurkers and this one despite being a theme game and generally awesome still has a fuckton of lurkers.
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On July 15 2013 06:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 06:26 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 06:25 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 06:21 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:17 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 15 2013 06:12 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:07 geript wrote:On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote:
@geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now.
Could you link please. Trying to read like 8 things at once. On July 15 2013 04:33 Ace wrote:
Let me try and put things in order here.
1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard.
2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters.
The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia. On July 15 2013 06:08 Z-BosoN wrote:Ace you want to kill SnB. Whatever happened to: On July 12 2013 07:21 Ace wrote:
snb hasn't been playing like himself in CCM at all. He's far more laid back in this one. The only issue with him is he claimed out of the blue. If he is scum he's managed to avoid every important wagon and discussion, only to attract attention for that claim? Is this metagame argument you gave the only reason you want to kill SnB for? That is not the reason I want to kill SnB. Read what I just quoted. I'm sorry, I can't seem to find the reason from what you quoted. You are basically building your case for SnB on the premise that having 4 immune ones in one game is way too anti-town and is not a plausible set-up. This is the metagame argument I referring to. Is there any other reason you want to lynch SnB for other than: 1) He's lurky 2) There can't be 4 dudes spreading radiation? Just to be clear. Yes. I don't think that 4 Town IOs exist. Him being lurky is part of it, but the IO thing is the biggest. Add in its austin/vayne/stutters situation or this one in my mind, and I think this is much simpler to solve. No other reasons outside of that. Also, I think it now comes down to him and austin, and I don't think there is enough evidence to convict austin. What he is saying makes sense: Vayne, if he has no nukes may not be notified he was raided. Vayn'e case against austin went off because he didn't get mod confirmation and felt something was fishy. Hey Ace. Triple-cop-claim-caper. I'm not gaming a closed setup like this. 3 cops with sanity issues versus 4 roles that can spread radiation? We don't even know what the radiation DOES, do we? It's fucking radiation. You think its gonna turn us into X-men?
All the role PMs about it have said is that it infects people. We haven't had anyone die to radiation yet have we?
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On July 15 2013 06:28 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 06:26 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 06:25 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:23 WaveofShadow wrote:On July 15 2013 06:21 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:17 Z-BosoN wrote:On July 15 2013 06:12 Ace wrote:On July 15 2013 06:07 geript wrote:On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote:
@geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now.
Could you link please. Trying to read like 8 things at once. On July 15 2013 04:33 Ace wrote:
Let me try and put things in order here.
1.) austin's claim that he sabotaged vayne and stutters. This leads him to believe one of them is the silent nuker, most likely vayne. Vayne was also attached to the jampi/maju group yesterday. If austin is Town, this puts more scum favored points in Vayne's direction. Stutters looks like he just messed up his role PM if anything, and made a mistake trying to figure out what happened with my original nuke. Stttuers is of course Scum if the nuke on Maju succeeds. For now both Stutters and Vayne are Town. austin is a wildcard.
2.) Onegu and SnB. Again as I said earlier, 4 town roles that spread radiation. I think we all know this can not be good. We should definitely go this direction, possibly regardless of what happens with any of austin/maju/vayne.stutters.
The way this game is going we're behind because we can't stick to one thing. Too many people with suspects everywhere, and we can't agree on one thread. This time, we either solve the snb/onegu stuff, or the austin/vayne/stutters situation. I think its much simpler to go the Onegu/SNB route even though Austin has votes right now. If austin is telling the truth, gets lynched and flips Town that doesn't mean vayne/stutters have to be scum for sure. I don't think both Onegu and SNB can be Town and SNB has been mia. On July 15 2013 06:08 Z-BosoN wrote:Ace you want to kill SnB. Whatever happened to: On July 12 2013 07:21 Ace wrote:
snb hasn't been playing like himself in CCM at all. He's far more laid back in this one. The only issue with him is he claimed out of the blue. If he is scum he's managed to avoid every important wagon and discussion, only to attract attention for that claim? Is this metagame argument you gave the only reason you want to kill SnB for? That is not the reason I want to kill SnB. Read what I just quoted. I'm sorry, I can't seem to find the reason from what you quoted. You are basically building your case for SnB on the premise that having 4 immune ones in one game is way too anti-town and is not a plausible set-up. This is the metagame argument I referring to. Is there any other reason you want to lynch SnB for other than: 1) He's lurky 2) There can't be 4 dudes spreading radiation? Just to be clear. Yes. I don't think that 4 Town IOs exist. Him being lurky is part of it, but the IO thing is the biggest. Add in its austin/vayne/stutters situation or this one in my mind, and I think this is much simpler to solve. No other reasons outside of that. Also, I think it now comes down to him and austin, and I don't think there is enough evidence to convict austin. What he is saying makes sense: Vayne, if he has no nukes may not be notified he was raided. Vayn'e case against austin went off because he didn't get mod confirmation and felt something was fishy. Hey Ace. Triple-cop-claim-caper. I'm not gaming a closed setup like this. 3 cops with sanity issues versus 4 roles that can spread radiation? We don't even know what the radiation DOES, do we? Wasn't it Fantastic 4 that had the radiation enabled powers? It's fucking radiation. You think its gonna turn us into X-men?
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On July 15 2013 06:24 Ace wrote:
there are several lurkers Wos, you want us to just burn through all of them?
Wtf Ace, you are not making any sense.
According to your own posts, gumshoe is a perfect as hell option here:
On July 13 2013 08:50 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2013 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote:On July 09 2013 07:00 s0Lstice wrote:
TARGET LOCKED IN. FINAL COUNT.
geript (0): raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion
johnnywup (0): VayneAuthority, Xatalos, WaveofShadow, TanGeng, Abenson, OriginalName
Chezinu (2): raynepelikoneet, Onegu, Ace, TanGeng, Abenson, Xatalos,
raynpelikoneet, jampidampi, gumshoe
WaveofShadow (0): geript, johnnywup
Onegu (1): Nirvana.Gabo, MajuGarzett
austinmcc (0): Xatalos
raynepelikoneet (0): Alakaslam
Z-BosoN (0): Chezinu
Dandel Ion (8): johnnywup, WaveofShadow, OriginalName, Ace, VayneAuthority,
strongandbig, Meapak_Ziphh, Alakaslam, Stutters695, Nirvana.Gabo
Nirvana.Gabo (1): Oatsmaster, raynpelikoneet, jampidampi
ghost_403 (0): Alakaslam, Chezinu
VayneAuthority (2): FirmTofu, Alakaslam, Alakaslam, FirmTofu, Chezinu
CaucasianAsian (1): geript, Z-BosoN
Oatsmaster (0): Chezinu
jampidampi (0): Chezinu
OriginalName (11): austinmcc, Chezinu, raynpelikoneet, Dandel Ion, Xatalos, FirmTofu,
Alakaslam, geript, ghost_403, Chezinu, geript, TanGeng, gumshoe, johnnywup, Onegu
Alakaslam (0): geript
TARGET: OriginalName has been obliterated! alright so lets roll through this finally, just some food for thought. On the ON lynch we have rayn, Xat, and Tang who flipped town. We also have Dandel/xig which flipped scum. To switch the lynch, which is between Chezinu and dandel (which was a scum or scum lynch btw) austin comes in and drops a case on ON as things are looking dire. Chezinu immediately votes for it, when he could have just voted for dandel to save himself. After a few more town like rayn are on aboard, a firestorm of votes begins. Now that we know who is town in those votes... First voter - Austin = scum. second voter - Chezinu = scum. third voter - Rayn = town. fourth voter - dandel = scum. fifth voter - Xat = town. sixth voter - FirmTofu = town. now where it gets interesting. Alaskazam votes for it then immediately goes back to a useless lynch, realizing that they don't need his vote and he does not want to be associated with this lynch. Alaskazam = scum. The remaining = Geript, ghost(Koshi), Gumshoe, Johnnywup, Onegu Most of the scum have got to be here -_- doubt its the ones towards the end because there's no reason to vote onto a mislynch after its already secured. Obviously I am wrong on some of these reads but lets really look into their motives here... First 2 voters on the wagon being scum may be legit. Chezinu has been afk for a long time since his day 1 nuke. Haven't looked at where he was on other wagons. I'm leaning austin scum right now since he seems to have prior knowledge to how things work + prior suspicions before the Day post. When stutters comes back it may be easier to get to this, since he seems sure stutters is lying about his role PM. Alasklam being scum here is interesting but the theory is a little flawed. If he is scum, then hopping off the wagon when it's a secured lynch looks far worse for him if he is thinking about appearances. He would have to have confidence that no one would catch this until later. Based on the way he posts I doubt that. gumshoe and Onegu are far more suspect here.
From here I gather, gumshoe is suspect
On July 13 2013 06:59 Ace wrote:
If I'm dead follow, actually read this stuff. I've been thinking about this game mostly from the DI/ON lynch as thats where most of my interactions have gone. The Maju/jampi lynxh also was similar in that we had a last minute turn around that ended up in a town death. If I'm dead I can't nuke Maju, therefore just lynch him.
There are three things that need to be cleared up for us to win this game. First is this list:
Xatalos
jampi (dead)
Onegu
SnB
All of them claim to have the same role, but can visit targets at night while being immune to radiation iirc. I doubt radiation is a good thing. All four being town isn't possible. 4 town roles able to run around infecting people just isn't a pro-town system. Deal with this. 2 of them that are alive also were on the wrong side of both Town lynches. Xatalos looks more Town than Onegu. snb has been mia and should be pressed.
The 2nd thing is the ON/DI wagon and the jampi/Maju wagon. This is a little more inconclusive until Maju flips. As sson as he flips DO NOT forget to go back and check this out for common names and bs reasons.
The last thing is the lurkers. I'm certain most of the active players are town. If not we are a bit screwed barring a miracle. We cant really kill the people playing active because if they flip Town we are all fucked as the game will fall into lurkers + scum. Be VERY careful with reads on active players.
Find out who is secret nuking also. Gl.
Here I read Lynching Lurkers is good!
Thus for you, a gumshoe lynch would make sense, no? I get that you like SnB because of setup spec, but like I posted earlier I have a few reasons as to why snb could be town, while there are none for gumshoe.
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gumshoe hasn't claimed anything has he?
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Let's go, people.
GUMSHOE TRAIN'S A LEAVIN
WOOOOO WOOOOOOO
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ewbop:
Wasn't it Fantastic 4 that got the radiation powers? stupid escape button.
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@Z-Boson: whatever lynching gumshoe flips, we still have the same issue with austin/vayne/stutters/onegu/snb/maju. If he flips scum who looks bad? I haven't thought much about a geript-snb scum team.
@jwup: More Town than snb. I don't have him as a definite town read.
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Z-Boson: Read carefully. I've supported lynching lurkers before we got to THIS situation. Why would I want to lynch gumshoe and leave it unresolved? If you believe snb is a lurker then I'm actually following what you are quoting me for? right? I'm also NOT lynching Austin who is active and answering questions. How is this not making sense to you?
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On July 15 2013 06:32 Ace wrote:
@Z-Boson: whatever lynching gumshoe flips, we still have the same issue with austin/vayne/stutters/onegu/snb/maju. If he flips scum who looks bad? I haven't thought much about a geript-snb scum team.
@jwup: More Town than snb. I don't have him as a definite town read.
I don't have the same issues you seem to.
There is no way Onegu is scum based on the post where he thinks he killed Firmtofu with radiation.
There are 4 scum left. Do you really think the 4 (or 3 if gumshoe flips red) are all within your list?
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EPT
