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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
On July 15 2013 05:42 austinmcc wrote: So he's either a mislynch (town) or scum bussing (scum). Congratulations, snb is almost certainly town or scum. What do you think he is and WHY? sorry this game isn't as easy when I don't know who is town and who is scum like you do | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 15 2013 05:42 VayneAuthority wrote: See, I asked because I looked through your filter for talk about him. Here's what you've written:I don't read him as town, I just don't trust these last second bandwagons especially the people that are on it. I was the first person to write a case on SnB or at least one of the first to draw suspicion on him, it's only then that people started coming out of the woodwork to throw shit at him. That's scummy. On July 12 2013 07:17 VayneAuthority wrote: Good news is, as I expected there are roles that go both ways. One immune down, 3 to go. There are immune scum/fake claimers for sure On July 12 2013 07:18 VayneAuthority wrote: I want your opinion on strongandbig, I think his immune one claim is fake and he's playing like he did in carnival. You hosted it, thoughts? On July 12 2013 07:23 VayneAuthority wrote: You seem to mainly be focused on picking out one of the immune ones. You go with snb (good). You think he's playing like he did in carnival, and you think he pops in from time to time and then dips. That is ALL you've said about him.That isn't necessarily townie. Recall roulette where your whole scumteam was basically on random votes the entire first couple days. It's actually a great way to fly under the radar. I was referring more to the fact of his reasoning that he just lets his team do the dirty work. It seems like there are a few active scum, and he pops in once in a while to say random stuff then leaves. Queue today. Where, by the way, he's a lynch candidate. People have been discussing him for hours. His name came up in Onegu/snb splits before, specifically from ace and I think others. Do you know how many words you typed about him? None. You called me out because the hosts wouldn't answer whether you'd be notified of a raid. But you didn't say word one about him, despite having him as scummy earlier. You think he's either town or scum, but don't care to chime in on the discussion and don't care to expand upon your old thoughts. How is his alignment not important to figure out? How is he either a mislynch or scum being bussed? That's it? This is a lynch. You have a vote. You think I'm scum. But you don't deem it important to figure out which option of those he might be? | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 13 2013 13:47 geript wrote: KNOWLEDGE NUKE INCOMING Ok so a few things to start off with. I've been exploring the idea of Dandel being bussed. The anti-DI lynch came primarily from Rayn and myself and Xat got on board as well and we were looking for an alternative lynch here. The basic responses that were given were: I post these for one very simple reason. There's a huge switch after the ON case by Austin here. The specific thing that I want to draw your attention to on austin is the huge switch in attitude in a short manner of time. I don't know about you guys, but there are a few things that stick out as being exceptionally suspicious to me here. First, it takes me a while to put a case together. Like a long time to type and cross reference and make sure things make sense etc. and that case wasn't exactly short, so for austin to pump that out he must not have put a load of time into it. I find this important because it tells me that he has vested interest in shifting the lynch off of DI and onto someone else. Second, Austin was thinking that DI was actually scummy yet he pulls ON out of his hat to say "Hey I want to lynch this guy right now instead." But if DI is scummy, why doesn't he do anything at all to try and push the DI as scum read instead of give tacit "scummy bro is scummy" comments. Third, austin had previous thought negatively of ON + Show Spoiler + On July 08 2013 06:30 austinmcc wrote: There isn't a reason not to lynch him eventually, based on his play so far. I think that his filter is full of junk. His playful posts in the beginning add nothing. He's very, very ... accusatory/bristly, when I don't see a need for him to be. That's a characteristic to compare to past games. Early post towards you, later post towards johnny, just really being antagonistic when there's no reason. Beyond those, he's chimed in on a couple things but either after others have said the same thing, or with chiming that doesn't actually do anything/go anywhere. He don't look groovy. Yes. Xat fakenuked Chez. TLDR edition You can add this to Xat's points, but Austin should be the next lynch for sure (after Maju) or be nuked. I have to get up in 2-3 hours to go work a race then work. I'll be back for a bit tomorrow and later on to post the others. FWIW I'm far less sure that Koshi is scum and I think I may have been overreacting after reading his filter. Have people forgotten about this? Or the reasons why Rayn thought Austin was scum? Or the reasons why Xat thought that Austin was scum? Is there a reason why the second lynch option isn't Austin? | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On July 15 2013 05:47 Ace wrote: If you don't like the lynch give some reasons, vote somewhere else, ask questions, do something. I know we've had some weird last minute wagons before but now that we're aware of them be proactive if you don't feel good. People were aware that the ON wagon looked shitty last time too. And people thought the DI wagon looked shitty. This doesn't help, Ace. You know what? I was right last time. I'm voting gumshoe. Fuck this wagon. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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geript
10024 Posts
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Xatalos
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 08 2013 11:57 VayneAuthority wrote: Ok interesting. So apparently chezinu is saying his role gives him like a hot potato nuke that keeps bouncing around that you have to send at some one else? That's a pretty interesting mechanic and I really doubt he is scum now after giving us some content. People should consolidate on Dandel or Onegu if they dont like my johnny lynch. On July 09 2013 02:31 VayneAuthority wrote: Chezinu is town, DI is scum.man I just read like 5 gazillion pages, I am sure all scum have some sort of fakeclaim so lets not get caught up in that again like in basterd mini. Its completely meaningless. Whoever asked about why Chezinu explaining his mechanics makes him town is because it seemed like a desperation move that only town would use to try to survive, he put down his trolling facade for a couple posts and put in some food for thought. That's enough to let me see him live another day to figure out what exactly he's doing. Switching my vote to Dandel. ##unvote ##vote: dandel ion chezinu is lol On July 13 2013 08:09 VayneAuthority wrote: Gut read. No reasoning. He was town, then lol, now scum.Also I am fairly certain Chezinu is scum at this point, solid gut read and I am usually good with these. im like 95% sure + Show Spoiler [That post where you "analyze&quo…] + On July 13 2013 08:36 VayneAuthority wrote: alright so lets roll through this finally, just some food for thought. On the ON lynch we have rayn, Xat, and Tang who flipped town. We also have Dandel/xig which flipped scum. To switch the lynch, which is between Chezinu and dandel (which was a scum or scum lynch btw) austin comes in and drops a case on ON as things are looking dire. Chezinu immediately votes for it, when he could have just voted for dandel to save himself. After a few more town like rayn are on aboard, a firestorm of votes begins. Now that we know who is town in those votes... First voter - Austin = scum. second voter - Chezinu = scum. third voter - Rayn = town. fourth voter - dandel = scum. fifth voter - Xat = town. sixth voter - FirmTofu = town. now where it gets interesting. Alaskazam votes for it then immediately goes back to a useless lynch, realizing that they don't need his vote and he does not want to be associated with this lynch. Alaskazam = scum. The remaining = Geript, ghost(Koshi), Gumshoe, Johnnywup, Onegu Most of the scum have got to be here -_- doubt its the ones towards the end because there's no reason to vote onto a mislynch after its already secured. Obviously I am wrong on some of these reads but lets really look into their motives here... On July 13 2013 09:31 VayneAuthority wrote: Today, you want to flip chez or I. You think I'm a higher chance to flip townAll I know is that we need a chezinu or austin flip and I would much rather flip chezinu since austin has a higher chance of flipping town On July 14 2013 06:23 VayneAuthority wrote: Nope. No reasons. In fact you SAID it was a gut read.I gave reasons why chezinu is scum, its not just a gut read. I don't know how you have a scum read on me after all that has happened this game. On July 15 2013 00:55 VayneAuthority wrote: ill be on Chezinu, dude is scum. It's not a coincidence that he would vote for ON and not dandel to save himself, the case is in my filter somewhere. 95% sure. #vote: Chezinu Then you abandon chez, without mentioning him again as a candidate, to jump on me. On July 15 2013 02:55 VayneAuthority wrote: Because the mods wouldn't tell you about notifications. Which says nothing about my alignment.mods refused to give me any info on the notification thing, which usually means it has to do with something fishy. ##unvote ##vote: austinmcc On July 15 2013 05:15 VayneAuthority wrote: Vote austin if you are unsure, dude is scum Now i'm definitely scum So what I see is chezinu is scum because gut read, but guys it's not just a gut read. Austin is more likely town than chezinu, but now he's definitely scum because the mods won't answer a question of mine one way or the other. snb is EITHER town or scum but I don't care to talk about him at all today. That's your filter. Thanks for contributing your reads and rationale for your votes, and for commenting about snb, who...by the way, is important to the lynch today. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote: @geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now. Fuck this shit. Who is more likely to be town, me or Ace? If I'm going to be wrong I'd rather be wrong of my own accord rather than be led. Gumshoe's posting has been shit and I KNOW he is extremely capable of a very strong game, and I feel much better about lynching him than I do Ace's dichotomy of choices. | ||
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austinmcc
United States6737 Posts
On July 15 2013 05:49 geript wrote: (Just gonna point out that, SO FAR, rayn is 0-1 on his scumreads from his claim being scum) (And that xat is also wrong)Have people forgotten about this? Or the reasons why Rayn thought Austin was scum? Or the reasons why Xat thought that Austin was scum? Is there a reason why the second lynch option isn't Austin? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 15 2013 05:57 austinmcc wrote: (Just gonna point out that, SO FAR, rayn is 0-1 on his scumreads from his claim being scum) (And that xat is also wrong) Or just don't address it and ignore it. That makes you totally towny... /sarcasm | ||
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s0Lstice
United States1833 Posts
MajuGarzett (1): Stutters695 (1): geript (2): Z-BosoN (1): Chezinu, austinmcc (5): strongandbig, Alakaslam, Onegu, VayneAuthority, Chezinu (1): [UoN]Sentinel, gumshoe (1): strongandbig (5): Ace, Oatsmaster, strongandbig, johnnywup, TARGET: strongandbig is set to be obliterated! Obliteration will occur at: 21:59 GMT (+00:00) which arrives in Nukes can no longer be fired. | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
I thought you were town until you mentioned the raiding thing, which makes zero sense | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
3. Oatsmaster 6. Abenson replaced by [UoN]Sentinel 8. Ace I want to call him town 21. WaveofShadow 4. Stutters695 -- 3p??? 5. Z-BosoN 10. Johnnywup 11. Onegu 13. VayneAuthority 14. Strongandbig 15. Gumshoe 20. Alakasam 26. Chezinu 27. austinmcc 19. CaucasianAsian 9. MajuGarzett This is where I'm at right now. | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
On July 15 2013 05:52 Ace wrote: @geript: If you don't trust austin then vote for him. At the very least respond to my post where I said it comes down to 1 of 2 paths: austin/vayne/stutters or snb/onegu. If you believe that it is possible for 4 Town IOs in this game, then you should be voting for austin right now. Could you link please. Trying to read like 8 things at once. | ||
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
Whatever happened to: On July 12 2013 07:21 Ace wrote: snb hasn't been playing like himself in CCM at all. He's far more laid back in this one. The only issue with him is he claimed out of the blue. If he is scum he's managed to avoid every important wagon and discussion, only to attract attention for that claim? Is this metagame argument you gave the only reason you want to kill SnB for? | ||
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geript
10024 Posts
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Z-BosoN
Brazil2590 Posts
SnB is playing fucking shitty but I have no idea whether it alludes to anything in his alignment. This post here sounds kinda genuine: On July 12 2013 05:02 strongandbig wrote: fucking hell geript dip-shit there are clearly anonymous scum nukes targeting strong town players if you have a town defense why in the hell would you not save it to stop the anonymous scum nukes on townies. The only alternative I see plausible with this post is if both SnB and Geript are in a scumteam. From Chrono Trigger mafia I remember that he liked setting up these kinds of plays, and snb hasn't really done much in pressuring geript because of it. But anyways, I'll go with the simplest case, that to me, geript is actually town and that scum SnB wouldn't overreact that harshly if he knew that jampi was town. Also, he claimed his role at a stupid-ass time, which kinda leads me down the lazy townie path. I dunno. | ||
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