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Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 09:42 GMT
#341
Damage control marv.


No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 21 2013 09:43 GMT
#342
On June 21 2013 18:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv,
how do you get the conclusion that yamato is over-confident from him saying he has no clue who is SCUM and only who is town?



Also why is shiao pi scum?


Because yamato is handing out townreads like candy, as if he can read that many people that quickly.

Shiao is mafia for that horrible, lazy comment on yamato, with no followup.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 09:43 GMT
#343
Marv is scum for defending yamato with bullshit reasoning.

No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 09:44 GMT
#344
On June 21 2013 18:43 marvellosity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 18:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv,
how do you get the conclusion that yamato is over-confident from him saying he has no clue who is SCUM and only who is town?



Also why is shiao pi scum?


Because yamato is handing out townreads like candy, as if he can read that many people that quickly.

Shiao is mafia for that horrible, lazy comment on yamato, with no followup.

you know, he didnt really say everyone was town, he said that DP and coag didnt look like town.
Dont you think his reasons for calling DP scum bullshit?
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 21 2013 09:45 GMT
#345
No, for reasoning you're not clever enough to understand. I don't expect you to be able to make that distinction though.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2013 09:45 GMT
#346
So the correct way to play scum apparently is to say "everyone is town" and when you are asked about it they are "all null besides that one guy"? Is this really what you are saying marv?

Do you think yamato is that bad as town and absolutely wouldn't do that as scum? It's kind of an easy way to say "there is nothing to comment on now, i wanna be friends with you all".
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2013 09:46 GMT
#347
On June 21 2013 18:44 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 18:43 marvellosity wrote:
On June 21 2013 18:41 Oatsmaster wrote:
marv,
how do you get the conclusion that yamato is over-confident from him saying he has no clue who is SCUM and only who is town?



Also why is shiao pi scum?


Because yamato is handing out townreads like candy, as if he can read that many people that quickly.

Shiao is mafia for that horrible, lazy comment on yamato, with no followup.

you know, he didnt really say everyone was town, he said that DP and coag didnt look like town.
Dont you think his reasons for calling DP scum bullshit?

Actually yamato said "there are a lot of players i have a town read on".
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 21 2013 09:48 GMT
#348
On June 21 2013 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote:
So the correct way to play scum apparently is to say "everyone is town" and when you are asked about it they are "all null besides that one guy"? Is this really what you are saying marv?

Do you think yamato is that bad as town and absolutely wouldn't do that as scum? It's kind of an easy way to say "there is nothing to comment on now, i wanna be friends with you all".


In what world do mafia make such an obvious consistency within such a short span of time? Certainly not one I play in, do you?

I don't think yamato is bad as town, I think he just says things too confidently and then has to pay for them somehow. It says something, I reckon, that yamato is one of the players I believe to be over-confident (and that's coming from me).

Like I said, I think he's more likely to do it as town, and more likely to be careful as mafia.

Oats, I'd like yamato to explain how he'd usually expect to view DP, which is why I already asked that question here.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 09:48 GMT
#349
On June 21 2013 18:45 marvellosity wrote:
No, for reasoning you're not clever enough to understand. I don't expect you to be able to make that distinction though.

No its absolutely bullshit and wrong.

Yamato calling everyone town is solving the game? No.
No gg, No skill.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 21 2013 09:49 GMT
#350
EBWOP: such an obvious INconsistency, obviously.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 21 2013 09:49 GMT
#351
On June 21 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 18:45 marvellosity wrote:
No, for reasoning you're not clever enough to understand. I don't expect you to be able to make that distinction though.

No its absolutely bullshit and wrong.

Yamato calling everyone town is solving the game? No.


I'm done talking with you for now. This will get me or anyone else nowhere at all.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 09:52 GMT
#352
why do you think its more likely for scum shiao pi to make that comment other than town shiao pi?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2013 09:55 GMT
#353
marv, the bottom line here is that they were not town-reads in the first place. They were null-reads besides OO.
I know yamato is over-confident as town, why can't he mask that play as scum? I understand it might not be the case here but i'm worried about people taking his words at face-value (in case he is actually town).

I want him to explain himself, why would you call someone town who you think is actually null?

I want people to explain why they are taking yamato's bullshit reads at face value when he "corrects" them.

Do you, marv, take everything at face value when someone just says they "made a mistake"? Or is it only yamato?
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 21 2013 10:04 GMT
#354
On June 21 2013 18:55 raynpelikoneet wrote:
marv, the bottom line here is that they were not town-reads in the first place. They were null-reads besides OO.
I know yamato is over-confident as town, why can't he mask that play as scum? I understand it might not be the case here but i'm worried about people taking his words at face-value (in case he is actually town).

I want him to explain himself, why would you call someone town who you think is actually null?

I want people to explain why they are taking yamato's bullshit reads at face value when he "corrects" them.

Do you, marv, take everything at face value when someone just says they "made a mistake"? Or is it only yamato?


I don't understand your angle here. I've explained why I thought it was more likely from a town-yamato than a mafia-yamato. I called yamato a light townread, not certain town. He could be mafia, so in answer to your question, yes he could try to mimic his town play as mafia like that, I just find it the less likely of the two options.

Nor is what I've said giving yamato a free-pass into not explaining himself (further?).
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 10:04 GMT
#355
Last thing about Yamato marv,
So you say him having 10 townies and 2 null is 'solving the game'?
How?
I dont see any of the arrogance in this game, just being like all passive and shit.
No gg, No skill.
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 10:10 GMT
#356
if shiao pi flips scum, is yamato scum?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2013 10:10 GMT
#357
What Oats just said. Marv, can you back up this meta-read on yamato somehow? I'll give you a hint, look at LXI & Red and you'll find out what's different in town!yamato's arrogance compared to scum!yamato. I'll give you another hint, you can't.

yamato is scum.
table for two on a tv tray
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
June 21 2013 10:12 GMT
#358
On June 21 2013 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote:
What Oats just said. Marv, can you back up this meta-read on yamato somehow? I'll give you a hint, look at LXI & Red and you'll find out what's different in town!yamato's arrogance compared to scum!yamato. I'll give you another hint, you can't.

yamato is scum.


Sorry broski, just not feeling it right now. Pursue it all you like and we'll see what happens, it's early.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 10:15 GMT
#359
marv and rayn, what do you guys think of ange?
No gg, No skill.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 21 2013 10:18 GMT
#360
On June 21 2013 18:22 Oatsmaster wrote:
DP, for me, he has never professed to play this way. With so many 'townies' day 1 and then already using elimination to find scum?

He fucked up and is trying not get lynched.


I actually thought about this while i was watching TV and the comment marv made about handing out town reads like candy. That is actually something scum often do because they find it difficult to form scum reads. So it sort of lends credence to the idea that if his process has changed it has become scummier. Also marvs town read on him is based on yamato's personality from what i can tell.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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