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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 21 2013 18:41 Oatsmaster wrote: marv, how do you get the conclusion that yamato is over-confident from him saying he has no clue who is SCUM and only who is town? Also why is shiao pi scum? Because yamato is handing out townreads like candy, as if he can read that many people that quickly. Shiao is mafia for that horrible, lazy comment on yamato, with no followup. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 21 2013 18:43 marvellosity wrote: Because yamato is handing out townreads like candy, as if he can read that many people that quickly. Shiao is mafia for that horrible, lazy comment on yamato, with no followup. you know, he didnt really say everyone was town, he said that DP and coag didnt look like town. Dont you think his reasons for calling DP scum bullshit? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
Do you think yamato is that bad as town and absolutely wouldn't do that as scum? It's kind of an easy way to say "there is nothing to comment on now, i wanna be friends with you all". | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On June 21 2013 18:44 Oatsmaster wrote: you know, he didnt really say everyone was town, he said that DP and coag didnt look like town. Dont you think his reasons for calling DP scum bullshit? Actually yamato said "there are a lot of players i have a town read on". | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 21 2013 18:45 raynpelikoneet wrote: So the correct way to play scum apparently is to say "everyone is town" and when you are asked about it they are "all null besides that one guy"? Is this really what you are saying marv? Do you think yamato is that bad as town and absolutely wouldn't do that as scum? It's kind of an easy way to say "there is nothing to comment on now, i wanna be friends with you all". In what world do mafia make such an obvious consistency within such a short span of time? Certainly not one I play in, do you? I don't think yamato is bad as town, I think he just says things too confidently and then has to pay for them somehow. It says something, I reckon, that yamato is one of the players I believe to be over-confident (and that's coming from me). Like I said, I think he's more likely to do it as town, and more likely to be careful as mafia. Oats, I'd like yamato to explain how he'd usually expect to view DP, which is why I already asked that question here. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
On June 21 2013 18:45 marvellosity wrote: No, for reasoning you're not clever enough to understand. I don't expect you to be able to make that distinction though. No its absolutely bullshit and wrong. Yamato calling everyone town is solving the game? No. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 21 2013 18:48 Oatsmaster wrote: No its absolutely bullshit and wrong. Yamato calling everyone town is solving the game? No. I'm done talking with you for now. This will get me or anyone else nowhere at all. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
I know yamato is over-confident as town, why can't he mask that play as scum? I understand it might not be the case here but i'm worried about people taking his words at face-value (in case he is actually town). I want him to explain himself, why would you call someone town who you think is actually null? I want people to explain why they are taking yamato's bullshit reads at face value when he "corrects" them. Do you, marv, take everything at face value when someone just says they "made a mistake"? Or is it only yamato? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 21 2013 18:55 raynpelikoneet wrote: marv, the bottom line here is that they were not town-reads in the first place. They were null-reads besides OO. I know yamato is over-confident as town, why can't he mask that play as scum? I understand it might not be the case here but i'm worried about people taking his words at face-value (in case he is actually town). I want him to explain himself, why would you call someone town who you think is actually null? I want people to explain why they are taking yamato's bullshit reads at face value when he "corrects" them. Do you, marv, take everything at face value when someone just says they "made a mistake"? Or is it only yamato? I don't understand your angle here. I've explained why I thought it was more likely from a town-yamato than a mafia-yamato. I called yamato a light townread, not certain town. He could be mafia, so in answer to your question, yes he could try to mimic his town play as mafia like that, I just find it the less likely of the two options. Nor is what I've said giving yamato a free-pass into not explaining himself (further?). | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
So you say him having 10 townies and 2 null is 'solving the game'? How? I dont see any of the arrogance in this game, just being like all passive and shit. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
yamato is scum. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On June 21 2013 19:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: What Oats just said. Marv, can you back up this meta-read on yamato somehow? I'll give you a hint, look at LXI & Red and you'll find out what's different in town!yamato's arrogance compared to scum!yamato. I'll give you another hint, you can't. yamato is scum. Sorry broski, just not feeling it right now. Pursue it all you like and we'll see what happens, it's early. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
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DarthPunk
Australia10857 Posts
On June 21 2013 18:22 Oatsmaster wrote: DP, for me, he has never professed to play this way. With so many 'townies' day 1 and then already using elimination to find scum? He fucked up and is trying not get lynched. I actually thought about this while i was watching TV and the comment marv made about handing out town reads like candy. That is actually something scum often do because they find it difficult to form scum reads. So it sort of lends credence to the idea that if his process has changed it has become scummier. Also marvs town read on him is based on yamato's personality from what i can tell. | ||
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