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Hapahauli
Profile Joined May 2009
United States9305 Posts
June 21 2013 07:15 GMT
#301
@ Cora

On June 21 2013 16:13 cDgCorazon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 16:09 Hapahauli wrote:
On June 21 2013 16:05 cDgCorazon wrote:
On June 21 2013 16:02 Ange777 wrote:
@Cora: What do you make of the fact that despite that quote Hapa now gave Oats a clear town read?


Well it's not like I'm going to convince everyone. I feel like Hapa is giving Oats way too much slack for his shoddy play. Hapa's lack of scum reads disturbs me a bit, but he's low on my priority list right now.

I'm not gonna call anyone scum for disagreeing with me. I'm just a bit disappointed that Hapa doesn't agree with me =(


Objectively bad play ("shoddy" play) isn't necessary scummy. For example, spurr-of-the-moment, crazy, emotional play is often 100% pure columbian townie. You seem suspicious of Oats for his sudden 180 on you, but I view that as fairly townie. He's not interested in covering his tracks, and despite him thinking you're town, isn't very interested in buddying you or being your friend. I can't detect a coherent scum/survivalist mentality.


Then what do you make of the fact that he hasn't contributed much to the discussion and has only managed to murk up the thread will really silly sheeping/unexplained arguments and acting like an idiot.


You just described to me Oat's town-meta. I was more fishing for reactions with my policy-lynch talk earlier, but it wasn't entirely baseless when I brought it up.

Fuck me need to sleep.

Anyway Cora, this fight with Oats reads so much like a town-on-town fight. You seem more interested in voting him because he's being a dick rather than scum. It's a natural reaction, but not one that helps the town cause I'm afraid.

@ Ange

Hai

reads pl0x

kthxbai
a talking rock that sprouts among the waves woosh
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
June 21 2013 07:17 GMT
#302
To be honest I am not too familiar with Oats' meta but I think he did explain most of his reads. There are some weird and seemingly random reads as well but I feel like I can understand most of his line of reasoning.

What I didn't understand: Do you actually habe a town read on ShiaoPi? How?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 07:19 GMT
#303
Because he isnt really trying that hard I feel, like he looks way more lost than in the last game I played with him.

No gg, No skill.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
June 21 2013 07:24 GMT
#304
I don't really have any good scum reads right now. I have a few players with a soft town read and some others marked down for further investigation like Coag. Why does it seem that people are giving him a free pass for posting trollish/unhelpful. Is there some particular meta I am missing?
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 07:25 GMT
#305
yeah ange, he plays like this in every game I feel and he always wants to lynch marv
No gg, No skill.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
June 21 2013 07:28 GMT
#306
I don't agree with your read on ShiaoPi. He is capable of a lot more than being lost and while it might look like that to you I feel that he would have had enough time to stop being lost and give his opinion on the recent discussions.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 07:31 GMT
#307
well my point is that as scum I feel he wouldve been way more helpful than so far as town cause he doesnt care about being lynched as town but he cares as scum.
No gg, No skill.
Ange777
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Germany1164 Posts
June 21 2013 07:36 GMT
#308
@DarthPunk:

What is your current stance on Oats? Still scummy which in Oats terms means nullish? Because I don't understand why Obvious is called scum for giving Oats a town read while Hapa gets away with the same thing.
♥ Sen - 台灣之光 ♥
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 21 2013 07:55 GMT
#309
On June 21 2013 16:36 Ange777 wrote:
@DarthPunk:

What is your current stance on Oats? Still scummy which in Oats terms means nullish? Because I don't understand why Obvious is called scum for giving Oats a town read while Hapa gets away with the same thing.

It's not for giving him a town read. It's for giving him a town read when it is in my opinion incredibly difficult to give oates a town read in the context of the thread at that point in time and then saying he could policy lynch the town read he just spent most of his post establishing.

Hapa is someone who gives town reads out to 'bad townies' all the time. It is not alignment indicative with hapa. I believe it is with Obvious.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 21 2013 07:56 GMT
#310
my current stance with oates is that he is neutral. Yes oates is always scummy in every game. there are differences though that distinguish his alignment. I just haven't seen any of them yet.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 08:00 GMT
#311
Im not scummy in every game
Like games when I play scum. Only you can see it man.


No gg, No skill.
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 21 2013 08:04 GMT
#312
On June 21 2013 17:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im not scummy in every game
Like games when I play scum. Only you can see it man.



LOL. That is kind of true actually. Maybe you are just scummy to ME every game.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 08:09 GMT
#313
On June 21 2013 17:04 DarthPunk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 21 2013 17:00 Oatsmaster wrote:
Im not scummy in every game
Like games when I play scum. Only you can see it man.



LOL. That is kind of true actually. Maybe you are just scummy to ME every game.

get your paranoid on man.

wheres marv
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2013 08:31 GMT
#314
##Vote: yamato77
He said he has a good portion of town reads and some worri-some. When asked about it they apparently were all null-reads besides OO.

Hapa why are you so eager to believe yamato's explanation because it's full of shit?
Coag, do you have anything to comment on other than your desire to lynch marv?

I'm inclined to think Oats is town.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 08:35 GMT
#315
Hi rayn.

anything else stick out?
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2013 08:41 GMT
#316
On June 21 2013 16:31 Oatsmaster wrote:
well my point is that as scum I feel he wouldve been way more helpful than so far as town cause he doesnt care about being lynched as town but he cares as scum.

This was about ShiaoPi. I don't agree with this Oats. In LXI ShiaoPi was definitely not helpful at any time and was caught with Clarity on N1. Only think that saved him from being lynched quicker was his weird "i'm lost" behaviour on D3.

Where do you base this feel of yours Oats?
table for two on a tv tray
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2013 08:42 GMT
#317
EBWOP: sorry, his behaviour on D2.
table for two on a tv tray
Oatsmaster
Profile Joined October 2012
United States16628 Posts
June 21 2013 08:44 GMT
#318
his last game he played
No gg, No skill.
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
June 21 2013 08:45 GMT
#319
Was he scum or town? And why would you use meta based on only one game?
table for two on a tv tray
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10859 Posts
June 21 2013 08:46 GMT
#320
Hey Rayn what do you think about obvious being willing to policy lynch his town read?
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
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