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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 05:01 GMT
#1301
That said, I still have inhibitions about the bus.
If it was not scum stacking on gotard, then I'd think it is either stimm or onegu.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 13 2013 05:01 GMT
#1302
I think it is possible.

And I don't think scum Xzav would have changed his vote and then changed it again five minutes later. All it did was call attention to him. He could have stayed on Gotard and been much less visible.

I think we are looking for scum in the minor wagons and on the Firere wagon. Not on the Gotard wagon.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 05:03 GMT
#1303
just fyi, at the bottom of the other page, I un-voted.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 13 2013 05:05 GMT
#1304
yeah, I saw that.

One vote is not a big deal.

To me the bigger issue is going through the process of elimination and removing players from the lynch pool based on good reasoning. Because, the bigger the lynch pool, the more likely the final scum will win.
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 05:05 GMT
#1305
On June 13 2013 14:01 fferyllt wrote:
I think it is possible.

And I don't think scum Xzav would have changed his vote and then changed it again five minutes later. All it did was call attention to him. He could have stayed on Gotard and been much less visible.

I think we are looking for scum in the minor wagons and on the Firere wagon. Not on the Gotard wagon.


Really?

well still, at any rate. all roads lead to Onegu.

##Unvote


I dont think scum Umasi would go that balls deep HAM in the paint balls to the wall motherfucking badass on somebody.

Mafia :D
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 13 2013 05:06 GMT
#1306
Yeah I don't want to lynch Umasi today.
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 05:12 GMT
#1307
On June 13 2013 14:05 fferyllt wrote:
yeah, I saw that.

One vote is not a big deal.

To me the bigger issue is going through the process of elimination and removing players from the lynch pool based on good reasoning. Because, the bigger the lynch pool, the more likely the final scum will win.


This is also something i agree with.

im a bit worried about gotard. he hasnt posted anyhting day3. like literally nothing.

his entire filter is 2 pages. and since day2 he hasnt really said anythign of value.
Mafia :D
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 13 2013 05:16 GMT
#1308
I think the same is true of Stimm.

I'm not going to worry about them for now. If there's nothing from them overnight then it's time to think about them.

The last scum is not going to go without voting today, I'm pretty sure.
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 05:18 GMT
#1309
my PoE right now has it down to

(most probably)Onegu or (possibly)iV.

you? (this ofc being of the active people)
Mafia :D
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 05:30 GMT
#1310
Of the active people, I prefer Onegu>iV, but not confirmed that way.
I want to sleep, so I will do so, and then look at people again.
I'd almost, tbth, prefer to lynch into the lurkers, compared to iV and Onegu.
Lurkers being stimm/gotard
I kind of like spicy for town, but am not too sure on anyone else.

Regardless, night.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 13 2013 06:27 GMT
#1311
Case for iV being scum (some of these may be null)

- argued against the yavanna case
- hopped the Firere bandwagon as it started to gain steam and look inevitable. Had a list of 3 for the day 1 lynch
- Skanjab died after masoning him night 1
- Stayed off the Lonemeow wagon. Voted Xzav, then Umasi
- JK means he may have been the protected victim, may also mean he was the blocked killer
- Has floated a few names on day 3 and apparently has no plans to POE his list of 4 before wagonning.
- Is not leading, despite being perceived as town by p much all.
- warmed up to yavanna as potential scum only after day 1, when she was a modkill possibility.
- minimized possibility that kill went missing because he was blocked.*

Case against iV being scum

- Day 1 gambit got the game rolling in a good direction
- Good protown general advice on stuff not to do in mafia.
- Skanjab read him as town, masoned him, self-proclaimed track record of reading him correctly**

* could be a style thing. If I were JK'd I'd make sure that possibility was kept in mind.
** strongest reason to think he's town IMO.


I'm still working on my Onego case.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 12:41 GMT
#1312
On June 13 2013 15:27 fferyllt wrote:
Case for iV being scum (some of these may be null)

- argued against the yavanna case
- hopped the Firere bandwagon as it started to gain steam and look inevitable. Had a list of 3 for the day 1 lynch
- Skanjab died after masoning him night 1
- Stayed off the Lonemeow wagon. Voted Xzav, then Umasi
- JK means he may have been the protected victim, may also mean he was the blocked killer
- Has floated a few names on day 3 and apparently has no plans to POE his list of 4 before wagonning.
- Is not leading, despite being perceived as town by p much all.
- warmed up to yavanna as potential scum only after day 1, when she was a modkill possibility.
- minimized possibility that kill went missing because he was blocked.*

Case against iV being scum

- Day 1 gambit got the game rolling in a good direction
- Good protown general advice on stuff not to do in mafia.
- Skanjab read him as town, masoned him, self-proclaimed track record of reading him correctly**

* could be a style thing. If I were JK'd I'd make sure that possibility was kept in mind.
** strongest reason to think he's town IMO.


I'm still working on my Onego case.


Let me just point out that KP is not roleblockable. Because apparently nobody knows. If I was jailed and I had KP, my KP would still go through. KP is something that's held by the mafia faction, not any individual player.

- argued against the yavanna case

And repeatedly asked the mods why she had not been modkilled, at one point demanding that she either be modkilled or they explain why she hadn't.

- hopped the Firere bandwagon as it started to gain steam and look inevitable. Had a list of 3 for the day 1 lynch

I work all day, if you guys manufacture a wagon while I'm at work there's no way for me to be there "early" in the wagon. Get used to it.
- Skanjab died after masoning him night 1

Skanjab had a town read on me and trusted me with his life by masoning me. I would have manipulated him all game long with that kind of trust. Scum don't kill people who are positive of their town-ness.
- Stayed off the Lonemeow wagon. Voted Xzav, then Umasi

Someone needs to explain to me how this is scummy. What I see here is "told everyone LM was going to flip town. Was correct. Voted for far scummier people."
- JK means he may have been the protected victim, may also mean he was the blocked killer

Again, KP is not roleblockable.
- warmed up to yavanna as potential scum only after day 1, when she was a modkill possibility.

Pretty much everyone had a town read on her until she went AFK.
- minimized possibility that kill went missing because he was blocked.*

I don't even know what this means...
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 12:43 GMT
#1313
I'll narrow it down for you.

Xzavier and Umasi have been giving me a shitty feeling all game long and I believe that one of them is scum.

Let's lynch one of them, now.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 12:45 GMT
#1314
Onegu for potential SK.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 13:00 GMT
#1315
On June 13 2013 10:34 Umasi wrote:
okay onegu, I will try to explain why. This is literally the best I can do, to tell you why I'm town
I'm not responding to your posts, I'm responding to...I don't know what I'm responding to.
But rationalize this question:
two things, actually:


A: If I am scum, why have I drawn so much attention to myself, and

B: Why have I not been lynched yet.

What about me is towny enough that people are not voting me?

This defense. Is the worst defense. In all of mafia-dom.

"If I'm scum, how come people keep noticing me?"
Because you're mafia.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 13:04 GMT
#1316
On June 13 2013 11:07 fferyllt wrote:
As scum, I would not hesitate to bus a scum partner. If I thought the wagon was going to go through, I would get on it before it was a foregone conclusion.

I have literally done this minutes before the town pile-on started and looked like I was in front and leading the way. More than once.

If I were scum, I most likelly would have been on the Firere wagon. I would have gotten on it a little bit later than when I did, but early enough not to look like I"d given up on the wagon fading away.

This stuff about nobody bussing Firere is not surefire.

Not

at

all

The firere lynch was not a foregone conclusion. He was lynched by 1 vote. Any mafia voting for firere could have bullshitted any sort of reason for switching to gotard. Like "going with my gut," for instance.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
iVLosK!
Profile Joined December 2012
Djibouti545 Posts
June 13 2013 13:08 GMT
#1317
##Vote: Xzavier

Suck it.
Gut verloren, etwas verloren; Ehre verloren, viel verloren; Mut verloren, alles verloren.
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 13 2013 13:09 GMT
#1318
Case for Onegu being scum

- 3 days of tunneling Umasi
- no effect on the day 1, 2 lynches due to voting Umasi
- Highly defensive post after day 1 flip

On June 08 2013 17:27 Onegu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 08 2013 15:41 iVLosK! wrote:
On June 08 2013 13:44 Onegu wrote:
On June 08 2013 13:10 Xzavier wrote:
I also think gotard may not be scum even more now, because i feel like firere was pushing for a mislynch. Like trying to fuel the fire after it was already dying down?

anybody else get that vibe?


Yeah I got that also, but I didnt really get a gotard being scum feeling in the first place, but I had a null feel on fire also so I dont know where that leaves me. I would like lonemeow to respond some more before placing a strong read on him. I just dont like how skan just refused to give good answers to me. I still have a scum read on umasi at this point, but mybe my bandwagon thing without good reason is just off base.

Explain why you made your vote useless today by voting for someone who was never in a million years going to be lynched and failing to even try to convince others to join you.

A vote is a terrible thing to waste, Toss.


I put my vote on someone I thought was scum, why is that a bad thing. I am not the only one either. I wanted to check back in before the deadline but I slept. I dont think me voteing for someone who may or maynot be lynched is such a bad thing, I didnt have strong feelings on either of the two main canidates for myself to justify puting a vote on them.


I wanted to give myself a break from the thread before writing this up. I've reread his iso again, and besides disagreeing with him on a lot of stuff, I'm really not finding much to call scummy in his posts, except possibly just how consistent he is.


fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 13 2013 13:11 GMT
#1319
iV, based on your positions and opinons through night 2, who do you think would perceive you as the greatest danger to their win/survival?
Spicydinosaur
Profile Joined April 2013
United States382 Posts
June 13 2013 13:14 GMT
#1320
On June 13 2013 21:41 iVLosK! wrote:

Let me just point out that KP is not roleblockable. Because apparently nobody knows. If I was jailed and I had KP, my KP would still go through. KP is something that's held by the mafia faction, not any individual player.


What are you basing this off of? As far as we know there is only 1 scum left so he has to carry it out the kill himself. Hypothetically if u were last scum and jailed, your kill will not go through.
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