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Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:28 GMT
#1281
hey, xzav, I read your quote
I did it
you were suspicious of her.
Why didn't you question her about it DIRECTLY WITHIN THE INTERACTIONS.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:28 GMT
#1282
who the fuck do you think........

jesus fucking christ, why did you even put ffer's name on that list. your trying as hard as you can to mislynch me, and for that i feel very sorry.

bro, your like trying to trick me into saying something that you think you can get my lynched over, do that to your scumreads, and apply pressure. dont fucking go balls deep HAM in the paint balls to the wall motherfucking badass on somebody because they FUCKING SAID WHAT YOUR CALLING THEM OUT ON NOT SAYING
Mafia :D
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:29 GMT
#1283
On June 13 2013 13:28 Umasi wrote:
hey, xzav, I read your quote
I did it
you were suspicious of her.
Why didn't you question her about it DIRECTLY WITHIN THE INTERACTIONS.



On June 13 2013 12:42 Xzavier wrote:
i said something hinting to it, but i didnt want to bash the fuck out of her at the very start of the game, i was going to wait to see a few more posts from her and not judge her based off that alone. But she never posted anymore so it wasnt exactly my problem, and she was modkilled accordingly, also

i asked you to quote this:
Show nested quote +
On June 07 2013 01:44 Xzavier wrote:
On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:
I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like

"Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town."

Or this to xZAv

"Now that I've ruffled your feathers"

what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.

And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes.

On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits?


On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!

No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least.


I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort.

i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere.


now tell me again that i was buddy buddy with her?

Mafia :D
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:33 GMT
#1284
hey, xzav, I read your quote
I did it
you are suspicious of her.
Why didn't you question her about it DIRECTLY WITHIN THE INTERACTIONS.
Actually, when I relook at it, you didn't even bring it up.
ffer did.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:34 GMT
#1285
whoops, accidentally reposted the first four lines t.t
you can sans those from the post. the last two are the true response
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:35 GMT
#1286
I don't think you ever hinted at it.
And that doesn't explain ANYTHING
it doesn't address my opinion of you either.
WHY
THE
DEVIL
were YOU not the first person to go and talk about it?
YOU'RE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN IT
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:37 GMT
#1287

Umasi, please. stop going around in circles. if your goign to ask the same question over and over again, and i keep giving you the same answer. Why do you think im going to give you a different answer.

and yes ffer is a badass and really good at the game, and i didnt want to state my read on somebody because of one post. That has also been said, if you ask me the same thing again i probably wont even give you the curtisy of quoting myself a page back answering that same question. so please, stop spamming this thread. unless you have something new to say.


EVER THINK THAT MABYE SOMEBODY HIT F5 FIRST?

or mabye people MISS things?

your fucking coming at me like your expecting me to be perfect, your asking me why i missed something (which i didnt miss, as quoted) on my FIRST game of forum mafia ever?

do you realize how silly you sound?
Mafia :D
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:38 GMT
#1288
You've been just saying "go read what I've said go read what I've said"
My point is, unless I'm fucking blind
WHICH IS ENTIRELY POSSIBLE
You have not assuaged my concerns about you.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:38 GMT
#1289
your fucking blind
Mafia :D
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:40 GMT
#1290
Alright. What does everyone else think about all of this, then? More than just ffer.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:41 GMT
#1291
hey hey hey, i want to hear ffer talk too. hes a good guy. <3

no seriously please, can we get some logic up in this bitch?
Mafia :D
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 13 2013 04:43 GMT
#1292
On June 13 2013 13:28 Umasi wrote:
hey, xzav, I read your quote
I did it
you were suspicious of her.
Why didn't you question her about it DIRECTLY WITHIN THE INTERACTIONS.


Have you played a perfect game?

No.

Nobody has played a perfect game.

Some things are mistakes. Some things are oversights. Some things are objectively scummy. And some things are not.

A player builds up a body of work in a game. Some of the stuff they do will look suspicious and some of the stuff won't look suspicious.

I look at the body of work a player produces, and whether they appear to be motivated by a town win condition.

I actually played a game where the host pulled a trick on town. We lynched the last scum and he gave the cardflip as town. He set up an endgame where three town players were looking for the final scum among them.

They went through the game thread with a fine tooth comb and were able to build semi-solid cases on each other. And they finally decided to lynch the player known to have the strongest scum game because they figured that he was the only one who could have played so pro-town all game long and be scum.

I guess what I am saying is look around, think about all the players. And decide what looks most scum-motivated.

And also realize you won't ever convince a town player that they are scum with a 1 on 1 argument with them. And if the player is scum, you won't ever convince them to admit it in a 1 on 1 argument with them.

Xzav isn't the person you need to convince.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:44 GMT
#1293
yeah, ffer can talk.
he can feel the hell free to talk, but I want more than just ffer.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:47 GMT
#1294
Okay, thank you Ffer, for doing more to absolve xzav than he did.
Even overlooking the mass claim question and buddy question, which we can write off as mistakes/oversights

Why would scum bus day one instead of saving a scummate.
Think about it like this: If xzav is town, they could easily have hid behind his case
or hidden behind my case, because I'm super friggen scummy
and then gotten a mislynch out of it, unless gotard is scum, which I consider unlikely.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:51 GMT
#1295
Umasi, thats what i was asking for a looong time, and the answer they gave was mainly this:

Town cred

You dont want to be the last one to join a lynch, or wait too overly long. it doesnt look good. you want to join busses early if your going to bus, its not required, but it works best if your bussing in that fashion.

If they switched their vote off and somebdoy else switched to firere345 (say me, if i dindt switch back to gotard) they would look hella-bad and most definately be the biggest lynch target the next day.
Mafia :D
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:54 GMT
#1296
I'm not entirely sure...still.
Gotards lynch hit five people before Firere's did.
That implies someone, for instance iV, just hopped off the gotard wagon onto firere's wagon.
I think that masking behind gotards would have been easy, which is why I'm still not satisfied.
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
fferyllt
Profile Joined April 2013
United States317 Posts
June 13 2013 04:54 GMT
#1297
On June 13 2013 13:47 Umasi wrote:
Okay, thank you Ffer, for doing more to absolve xzav than he did.
Even overlooking the mass claim question and buddy question, which we can write off as mistakes/oversights

Why would scum bus day one instead of saving a scummate.
Think about it like this: If xzav is town, they could easily have hid behind his case
or hidden behind my case, because I'm super friggen scummy
and then gotten a mislynch out of it, unless gotard is scum, which I consider unlikely.


If scum thought Firere was going down, they would want to be on that wagon for the town cred. As scum, once you are on the leading bandwagon on your scumbuddy, it's really difficult to talk yourself into leaving the wagon because if it goes through and you jumped off then you're worried that town will want to lynch you next.

So you sit on the wagon and wonder what to do, and wait...and wait...and wait to see if someone else will accidentally say something scummy and cause some town votes to peel off.

That would be ideal, because 1) you're not on the wagon that lynched town and 2) when that player eventually flips you'll look great because you were on them early.

With town it's totally different. Town is not worrying about how they'll look if they move their vote. They're trying to find and lynch scum. Town players naturally move their vote around more than scum players do. Good scum players are able to duplicate a natural-looking fluid vote-change.
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:55 GMT
#1298
I don't think that swapping to a mafia lynch to build town cred, while SACRIFICING A MAFIA, is feasible.
If gotard were also scum, then why wouldn't they have just stuck on gotard if they were bussing for town cred?
(that is my logic for thinking gotard is not scum)
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
Xzavier
Profile Joined January 2013
United States393 Posts
June 13 2013 04:56 GMT
#1299
Jesus, i asked this same question over and over and over, go look at the answers they gave me before you ask the same ones again.

then ask for clarifications.
Mafia :D
Umasi
Profile Joined October 2012
United States1399 Posts
June 13 2013 04:59 GMT
#1300
....ehhhhh
I really don't like thinking that they bussed day one and sac'd a mafia.
If you think so ffer, I will fall off-
also because I don't think xzav is objectively scummier than some others.
##UNVOTE XZAVIER
"Sir, we finally have enough corpses to serve as a ramp for your horse." "THEN LET THE REAPING BEGIN!!"
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