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On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.
Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.
I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread. So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking. Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today) thoughts?
okay got it.So its jailer/medic.But if the jailer comes out and says i held this person on the night with the no-kill, and then we lynch that person we win.So even if he died there would be enough information to win the game. Mabye, i dont know. Im fine with how things are right now. And Umasi is highest on my list at the moment. Spicey what do you think of iV right now?I brought up the idea of how everybody who voted for Firere345 is town, and he shot it down at the time.and now all of the sudden he brings it back up again as his list of people to lynch in order to end the game. No sudden realization or reasoning, just two contradicting statements from the same person.
Saying a thought and maybe doesnt mean you arent pushing for it, means you are fishing for agreement.
and some high ungodly wisdom that we are allowed to communicate during noob games had a discussion on mass claims with me, and i realize that its generally not beneficial in this format. So it would only be smart to come out if you KNOW your action stopped the night kill i believe, or if your a cop who just checked a scum(or miller, but then we can determine if its miller/scum)
filteri believe i explicilitely asked people if what i was saying was a good or bad idea!!this is my first game of forum mafia, im new to like fucking 15 different roles and still only have minimal understands of how they interact with the game, i wasnt pushing for him to come out, i was asking for other peoples ideas. go back and reread my post again, i wasnt calling for him to come out, or even pushing. i was thinking outloud. and now im very worried about you as well.
So youve talked about it with someone but but still dont understand?
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Not sure how that got posted first not finished.
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Am I alone here? The reason this looks so bad to me is the only way I can see scum winning is killing the jailer.
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On June 13 2013 12:14 Onegu wrote:
Am I alone here? The reason this looks so bad to me is the only way I can see scum winning is killing the jailer.
Now whos fishing for some motherfucking agreement.
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see, thats literally what you just tried to do to me.
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Xzavier, at the risk of sounding extremely hypocritical, WHY ARE YOU FREAKING OUT SO MUCH
Fortunately, you are appearing more and more scummy to me by the fucking SECOND.
So I can feel good about voting you.
On June 13 2013 10:04 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 08:59 Spicydinosaur wrote:
I'm looking at Umasi right now. Both Stim and Onegu had similar play styles by tunneling one person and not really looking anywhere else. They are so similar so its hard to choose one of them atm.
Umasi on the other hand, has changed the most from the beginning of the game. His posts in the beginning were sheeping but he emphasized logic a lot more. Now look at his posts... just pure chaos. He's either having a mental breakdown or he's going 100% crazy in an effort to look towny. On the other hand, Yavanna said she would lynch him or firere D1. Im not sure how much stock can be put in this comment because she never actually voted and fell off the face of the game. Perhaps scum had a plan.. who knows. What we do know is that Umasi voted for two townies.
I really want to hear what he and everyone else who's been absent from the thread. So right not were thinking Umasi, and i think thats the smart lynch for today. It makes the town far more effective. and he has taken a massive shift in gameplay, going form logical and reasonable to panicking. Also depending on the flips, we should mass claim day3. just a thought, you can tell me its bad and explain why its bad, but i think we can end the game on the day3 lynch. (if it doesnt end today) thoughts?
I still dislike you wanting to lynch me because it would make town more effective.
That's AWFUL reasoning. You need to vote to kill scum, not to eliminate people who may or may not be a problem.
Even if voting me would clear the game up or some shit, there are still a lot of unsolved people, and you'd really get no where in the end, even if it was just a desire to see me dead.
I'm going to go reread everything that was said during the night exchange between yav, me, and you, to see if anything can incriminate you more/totally absolve you.
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On June 13 2013 12:14 Onegu wrote:
Am I alone here? The reason this looks so bad to me is the only way I can see scum winning is killing the jailer.
We have 7 players left. Most likely 6 town and 1 scum. Possibly 6 town and an SK but I doubt it. Scum win if there are two more mislynches provided there are no more no-kill nights. With another no kill, then it will take 3 mislynches.
This is why I want to PoE some of the nulls and eliminate them from the lynch pool.
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okay, um, go hunt for evidence and ignore all the shit i did to try to help the town. you go do that.
I didnt say i wanted to lynch you because it would make the town more effective, i said that was my reasoning that if you flipped town i wouldnt feel as bad. I think your scum, but as the time flies by im thinking more and more that it might be onegu.
and good luck, try to find all the shit. And the go quote my post saying that it looked like yavanna was asking me to do all the work and that its suspicious. you go find that shit bro
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On June 06 2013 16:10 Yavanna wrote:
nm, shoulda refreshed before I posted. whoops.
Word, if Xzav flips scum I will bow to him. lol
On June 06 2013 16:18 Yavanna wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 16:07 Xzavier wrote:On June 06 2013 15:43 Yavanna wrote:
Xzav, you seem to have your shit together. Probably my strongest town read atm and I'm pretty sure I'm gonna sheep the shit out of you in the future.
Now that I've ruffled your feathers, maybe you'll help me out a bit. Just so I know we are on the same page, you think iV is town now? I would concur with that analysis. Is it too early to ask for your opinion on anyone else who's posted so far? Humor me, I'm bored as shit and looking for some good convo. Umasi is over reacting or unnaturally emotional. but at the momet i want to hear from more. the enlightening genderless being is probably town as well. being he stopped the arguement and explained iV's actions for us. thats about all i know. and i just read a fuckton of guides. I read a bunch of them too and followed a couple of games before I joined in. Still not nearly as confident as you seem to be. I'm thinking you should be my unofficial mafia spirit guide. 
Yav is buddying up extremely hard, and I have no idea why.
It's so unbelievably suspicious that I'm almost tempted to pull off of xzav, but they may have just been awful. That said, Xzav hardly acknowledges it.
Even though it was suspicious as CRAP.
..I call her out on it before xzav does, why didn't you xzav?
(yavanna is female right?)
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Ffer, there are eight players left.
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Yes she is.
The Yavanna interactions are why I don't want to lynch Xzav.
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On June 13 2013 12:40 fferyllt wrote:
Yes she is.
The Yavanna interactions are why I don't want to lynch Xzav.
Did I not count myself?
Then it's 3-1 and MYLO on day 5 if there is another missed NK.
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^^ If there is NOT another missed NK.
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Heck xzav, if you look at the result, you've voted the same way I have.
in fact identically.
What have you done to contribute that I haven't? Nothing has borne fruit from EITHER of us.
we're equally bad, come mire down here in the muck with me /sloshes around
Day one I happily followed you to a gotard lynch, but you can't claim being first to the punch day two, so I don't want you using "sheeping" as a defense.
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i said something hinting to it, but i didnt want to bash the fuck out of her at the very start of the game, i was going to wait to see a few more posts from her and not judge her based off that alone. But she never posted anymore so it wasnt exactly my problem, and she was modkilled accordingly, also
i asked you to quote this:
On June 07 2013 01:44 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 23:24 fferyllt wrote:I'm going to go against the current here and say that Yavanna worries me a bit because she's being awfully nice when going for clarification. The self-deprecation that comes with her questions to players. Stuff like "Make believe I have a mental handicap because I don't really see how Umasi's behavior was anti-town." Or this to xZAv "Now that I've ruffled your feathers" what ruffled feathers? Yavanna you agreed with xZav in that post.
And yet with assurances that you'll be plenty abrasive when the time comes. On June 06 2013 16:23 Yavanna wrote:
Shit I'm sorry...? Should I put on my bitch face? I mean there's like 3 people talking here. When someone comes into the thread that I should jump on I will, but I haven't seen anything to make me do so yet. I'm really not so nice all the time but those of you who I'm conversing with are townie as fuck imo. Should I pull an iV and attack you just for shits? On June 06 2013 16:30 Yavanna wrote:
Ermahgerd...I can feel the Vlosk coming!! RAAAAGGGGEEE!!
No but in all seriousness, I just don't see the point in being an asshole unless its warranted. When I think someone is doing something scummy I'll jump all over their ass and not feel bad about it in the least. I'm not seeing any sign of this iron fist in the velvet glove. Yavanna is working for minor clarifications from her town reads, mostly, which isn't such a great place to put a lot of effort. i believe that she meant she didnt want to flatter me overly too much lol. thats the way i read it atleast. but yeah, this might be because she is new, but she does seem overly apologetic and it is suspicious when somebody says i dunno who im gonna vote for, so im going to sheep you, this early on. I mean id be okay with her saying she was going to sheep me if she had absolutely no reads, but this is almost giving her an excuse not to try and make reads/find mafia. kinda like saying here, you do the work. and then ofc not having her name attached to it anywhere.
now tell me again that i was buddy buddy with her?
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Ffer, how do you get xzav being anything but null out of the yavanna interactions?
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I never said you were buddy buddy with her, she was buddy buddy with you and you were like "meh"
compared to being like
WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE YOU SO TRUSTING OF ME ALREADY IT'S BEEN HALF A DAY
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There was no reason NOT to be suspicious of her.
"wanting to see more"
ehhhhhh..of course not, call it immediately and pressure her, like you did with iV.
why did you not follow suit like you did with iV.
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Your saying all of this after the flip, when its pretty fucking obvious.
Now i had no information of her role day1, so my interaction was her was one of "meh" because i was still forming a read.
i flipped out on iV because he was asking for it.
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"it wasn't exactly my problem"
of course it's your problem.
it's mafia, everything is your problem.
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