EPTOn April 09 2013 22:57 DarthPunk wrote:
Pretty sure axle was asleep at that point.
Pretty sure axle was asleep at that point.
Oh yeah. I didn't look at the time he quoted that vote tally from WoS L-1.
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On April 10 2013 00:09 iamperfection wrote: well in general a post like this has proved difficult for scum palmar to make. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168¤tpage=17#332 It is of course possible he has uped his game but he is not a concern right now. I would only worry about palmar much later in the game if at all. He has been interested and overall has cared about the lynch. He is not that much of a concern. Actually if you read really closely what happened at the end of D1 Palmar didn't give a shit about the lynch and i'm going to prove it to you in ~2hours. | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 08:58 Palmar wrote: I say we lynch you on day one. How would you like that? ##Vote sciberbia Not likely uncharacteristic to him, but then, the follow up is this: - He is more concerned about marv's read on him than pushing his lynch. - The only thing he is trying to figure out anything about anyone is when he asks Oats/iamp about sci. No follow up. _________ Then he comes in with this post: + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2013 00:20 Palmar wrote: honestly: marv: strange things, but seems to be at least trying. I don't think I'll push for his day 1 lynch, but it's annoying that he doesn't just start saying shit that matters and maybe be more useful. I've noted to self/thread twice that he has said things I would not entirely expect of him, but neither makes him definite scum. see here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168¤tpage=6#119 and here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406168¤tpage=13#257 Ace: complete and utter null, he's a good lynch but doesn't need to be discussed until we're closing in on the lynch. If we default to a lurker from where we are now it's a toss-up between him and Tunkeg, and I think I'd rather kill Ace. Nothing in Ace's filter says anything about his alignment (good or bad). iamperfection: I really don't know, he seemed genuinely mad that I'm poking him, but his ridiculous zeal in what is essentially a perfectly safe lurker lynch still raises some bells for me. I don't know really. sciberbia: made a generic post and hasn't said anything ever since. I might be willing to lynch this guy based on what has happened in the game so far and if I had to make a decision right now. Tunkeg: lurker, nothing to say. Axlegreaser: I can't read these kind of people, so i'll mostly leave it to others. I'd say leaning town, but honestly I'm terrible at telling what strange posters are up to, I ignore Chez every game I play with him, and while Axle is more coherent than that, I really don't know. prplhz: being his useless self on day 1. He did reach the same conclusion about iamperfection's push on Ace, and he did it before me, I think. DP: NOT READING YOUR POSTS LOL reyn: I don't know this guy well enough yet, so I'll just paint him tentative town right now for calling me bad. he's spamming in a very useless way. But at least he's spamming Oats: NOT READING YOUR SHIT EITHER WoS: his last post here was slightly more townie than everything else he's said. He too is not a bad day 1 lynch I think. I need to hear more from this guy and I know literally nothing about him. His "glad I rolled town" seems sooo fake, but then again, it's so awful that it's hard to think mafia would be stupid enough to do it. Whatever, leaning scum, I guess... This is very uncharacteristic from Palmar. Every read ends with "i don't know" or "whatever, i guess scum". Normally Palmar pushes his early D1 read hard and want's other people's opinions about it. Here he is throwing out a list of "meh" reads. _________ + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2013 19:30 Palmar wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Sciberbia I think this is the direction I want to go in. After ~20 hours and a couple of useless posts that say nothing he goes back to this. When Tunkeg asked for reasoning, he says this: -"I really don't think it's reasonable to push oats at the moment." Cool, Palmar's opinion about Oats is " Oats: NOT READING YOUR SHIT EITHER". So it's not reasonable to question a player you are not even reading. - "Also sciberbia has a few of those indirect question things I don't really like, I mentioned it in my first post against him, this validation seeking thing." Yeah, Palmar thinks sciberbia is the best lynch at the moment. Funny, because he hasn't interacted with sciberbia even once. He only asked iamp/Oats about him. Yeah, Oats, whose posts he is not even reading... _________ The he votes for WoS, but after that tells marv he thinks sciberbia is a better candidate. _________ Back to sciberbia with "something about his defense of WoS just looks strange to me". _________ Some voteswitching between Ace / sciberbia with nothing new. _________ Here's when the fun starts. Palmar votes for Ace: On April 08 2013 05:12 Palmar wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote Ace Okay let's do this. (1)Also if we lynch him he's a liar and we must lynch all liars, since he said this town wouldn't lynch a veteran player. (2)And finally there are multiple things I find strange about him, just nothing I can say is conclusively scummy. But he is focusing on silly secret tactics, not giving much opinion on who to lynch or trying to push his lynch. He is not attempting to take any kind of a leadership role, and wanting to rather just weigh in here and there. (3)If I hadn't seen Ace be a useless shit at town before I'd call him scum, but I'm not sure. whatever #yolo let's kill ace. 1) This is ridiculous reasoning. 2) Multiple strange things that are not conclusively scummy. 3) Says Ace plays like this as town. After this he isn't interested in what Ace says. He just wants people to vote for Ace. After this some people say they think Ace is town and start a lynch on Axle. This is the votecount atm: sciberbia (1): raynpelikoneet WaveofShadow (3): Tunkeg, prplhz, AxleGreaser marvellosity (1): Ace Ace (4): marvellosity, WaveofShadow, Oatsmaster, Palmar AxleGreaser (3): DarthPunk, sciberbia, iamperfection Then marv asks Palmar's opinion on Ace. Palmar does not give opinion about Ace but instead: On April 08 2013 08:36 Palmar wrote: I don't want to lynch Axle, if that's the alternative. On April 08 2013 08:36 Palmar wrote: He looks good marv, I really don't know. can we lynch the host since I have a town read on everyone? What do you say Axle? On April 08 2013 08:38 Palmar wrote: to clarify, by good I mean less bad than he used to. and since I have no clue who is scum whatever. I just want to lynch someone and I don't want it to be axle. Sciberbia, Ace, prplhz, reyn, WoS, marv are all fine by me. - Axle looks good, can lynch into the list of some random people. - Next thing he does is he narrows the list to Ace/scib. After this post me & prplhz clearly imply that we are supporting Axle lynch over Ace. prplhz even asks Palmar why does he not want to lynch Axle. Ace is sure going to vote for Axle over himself anyways. Then Palmar just switches his vote on Axle: On April 08 2013 08:48 Palmar wrote: I think you can possibly be scum, I think everyone else there except marv is more likely to flip. But okay, mostly because I cannot stay up tonight I need to wake up tomorrow, let's just lynch Axle. At least it rids me of a person that I don't know how to read. I'd give this lynch about 17% chance of success. ##unvote ##vote AxleGreaser "I don't care, let's just lynch someone". Then there is this masterpiece: On April 08 2013 08:56 Palmar wrote: man I just read Axle's filter, maybe he is scum. Increased chances of success to around 32% No reasoning why Axle might be scum now. Also note that Palmar has doubleposted 3 minutes before this post. THERE IS NO FUCKING WAY HE READ THE FILTER IN 3 MINUTES! Ffs Axle's post were really hard to read, it took me 3 minutes to read one post of his. TLDR; - There is nothing in Palmar's play that shows that he has given shit about anything in this game. - His strange "i'll give reads about all the people" is really uncharacteristic for him, usually he pushes his strongest scumread and tries to convince other people to lynch that guy. - Why the fuck is he continuosly asking marv/Ace about their read on him? Normally Palmar declares himself as town and that's it. Everyone who disagrees is bad/scum. - "Pushes" Ace lynch with reasoning that points Ace being more likely town than scum (rofl). - Doesn't even try to figure out if Ace is scum/town when he is unsure of him. - Switches to Axle when there is a lot of people who are likely to vote for Axle over Ace. No reasoning, read Axle's filter in 3 minutes and suddenly Axle goes from looking good -> maybe scum. Cool story bro. Lynch Palmar D3. | ||
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If you think Oats is scum tell us why, that comment alone doesn't do much. | ||
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On April 10 2013 03:09 Oatsmaster wrote: I thought you werent a sheep? Why didnt you like the Ace case then? Why didnt you like the other cases? Oats do you happen to think anyone is scum? | ||
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Now it's your turn to prove me wrong. | ||
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On April 10 2013 04:27 Palmar wrote: Fuck it, disregard everything I've said so far. I'm clearly having an everything I think is wrong game so I need to re-do just about everything. No idea how long it'll take. Wait i thought this should be very easy for you because the guys who are left in the list you think is mafia call the green guys scum. Why are you suddenly changing your tone? Remember thi: On April 08 2013 09:33 marvellosity wrote: iamperfection WaveofShadow - pushed by Axle Ace prplhz DarthPunk Oatsmaster Tunkeg Palmar marvellosity AxleGreaser raynpelikoneet sciberbia - looks good for Axle lynch. That's about it. On April 08 2013 09:35 Palmar wrote: oh I see marv has the same idea as I have. | ||
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On April 10 2013 06:27 WaveofShadow wrote: I get the feeling that Rayn determines who he'll call scummy next the same way that Artanis determined roles in Hydra Mini. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=402039¤tpage=5#82 I get the feeling that ypu are nowhere near confirmed town because the confirmed scum Axle didn't want to lynch you when he could have at least nearly hammered you and suddenly when there is no more pressure on you he suddenly did want to lynch you. And you not hammering him does not make you look any townie because Ace would have done that anyways. You also have the weird interaction with Axle about me where you ask about my playstyle and in the same post give him a ready answer to your own question. | ||
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iamp, prplhz used the "Why do people think Axle is town" phrase as town in a same manner in in Red D1 when he asked: On March 27 2013 11:29 prplhz wrote: If anybody else knows why Acrofales is town I'm also interested in their answers. Acro was mafia. So at least that's not a scumtell from him. Also prplhz could have easily voted for Ace over Axle on D1 as Ace gave him "bad" answers and was looking scummy for many people. Instead he questioned Palmar about Axle's towniness and ended up voting Axle. I personally don't think he's scum. I have no idea about Oats, gotta re-read those games. Darthpunk pushed the Axle lynch, that makes him town i guess. iamp is confirmed town. That leaves WoS. ##Vote: WaveOfShadow | ||
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On April 10 2013 12:46 Oatsmaster wrote: Rayn and Tunkeg scummy bros. I dont know if you want me to comment on your Palmar case rayn, or if you would rather wait for Palmar. But yeah that case does not make me think that Palmar is scum, and with Tunkeg sheeping off it, you both scum bro. On April 10 2013 21:20 Oatsmaster wrote: For once a vigi doesnt shoot town haha. I have no fucking clue what I think is scum. I read Prp's and rayns filter Prp, looks actually helpful recently, and not a FUCKING IDIOT. Rayn too, after he stopped his shennanis is posting good things. WHY MAFIA SO HAR?D??? What made you change your mind when nothing besides the flip really happened between these posts? | ||
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WoS who do you want to lynch and why? | ||
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Palmar do you think Tunkeg (and Axle) would push WoS they way they did if they were the scumteam? | ||
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Shouldn't that be more proof of me being scum with him for you? | ||
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