EPTNoir Mini Mafia: Chapter 1 - Page 45
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
no idea wtf hopeless/rol were playing at all game | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On April 10 2013 11:06 marvellosity wrote: iamp tipped me off to lazer with some post timing in obsqt, but CC was pretty nice. dandel vouching him didn't help me there. no idea wtf hopeless/rol were playing at all game lol I thought since everyone and their mother just lurked he'd do that too if he was scum. meh, happens. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
If he is playing properly. He is scum bro. Got one scum right, happy about that  | ||
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On April 10 2013 11:10 Dandel Ion wrote: lol I thought since everyone and their mother just lurked he'd do that too if he was scum. meh, happens. You didn't read Nomination Mini apparently. He played pretty darn active there as scum too. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
On April 10 2013 10:48 Hapahauli wrote: I felt that the 48-hour Day 1 felt really artificial. I'll probably tweak the time-mechanics a bit for the next version. I'm thinking either... a) A "time-bank" mechanic. Town starts with 72-96 hours on Day 1, and gains 24 more hours every cycle. If time ever expires on town, the day ends in a no-lynch. b) A flat 1-week time limit on the game. a) does look interesting. As it requires townies to decide when to hammer, and gives scum an excuse to. That makes days to me actually variable length. not b? especially not until a was tried and failed (except I dont think it would) | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
Axles dying Words: and he scores! nk=n1 ..... bucket_list(0) = tick! GG HF + Show Spoiler + Skip: <Stands Looking at Axles still warm corpse.> Skip: <walks over and gives him one last be wet doggy lick> Skip: <Turns at looks intently at the town members one by one> Skip: ow Ow Ow oooooooooooooh, in the silence of the twilight. Skip: <Walks slowly towards the end of town, still watching the 'townies' intently.> As skip approaches the mirror at the end of Town, you think you hear someone say "/obs prease" You look around, for who. When you look back Skip is missing too. The mirrored window no longer seems relevant and you ignore it. + Show Spoiler [axle] + IMO: in game death posts, are still best in std form. gghf pocorn. As there is to me implicit information even in my dying words. (it implies I had considered the possibility...) The skip stuff could be fine as I did compose it pre game, but if you suspect I didn't ... So meh, post game for player flavoured deaths. | ||
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AxleGreaser
Australia1154 Posts
Oh and scum well played... CC especially had me. D2 I would have actively looked at Laser with the rest... I did have multiple theories at n1 (some included laser) but my guess in obs (dead wrong) was my best guess, when I passively read some more of the game and committed. Live and learn or not. | ||
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Keirathi
United States4679 Posts
CC played quite well. iamp's hints kind of lead us to LM, but I was still hooked on hoeless or RoL for the second scum. Never even really thought CC was a possibility. Nice scum play in general, I think. Played to the town quite well. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
Marv want to tell me who is scum because I have no idea. I can't make sense of any of Ghor(Vivax)/RoL/Hopeless if they are town. LM and CC doesn't really have anything to make me think they are town except that the other 3 look so much worse. LM is probably the most townie looking of the two of them. I wonder if he will die tonight. Ghor, Hopeless and RoL. Thank you for not giving a shit about this game. Thank you for having the most awful reads and being a bunch of emotional omgusing asshats in denial Hopeless, you're a retard to the bone. How could you be so delusional about your own game? How you could you think you played like a townie? At some point you must have looked at yourself and said, holy noodle I'm an omgusing little twat who lurks and only come out when I'm called out, I should step up my game. RoL, you lurked the majority of the game only to come out with some quick thoughts on how we should kill a person out of the blue in the middle of a lynchdiscussion which you basically dropped and disappeared. Town cut you the slack you wanted and when you promised activity you delayed more then 24 hours and then came in posting how we should kill the only two townie looking players in the game. Ghor, compared to RoL and Hopeless you played like a champion and actually cared about the game. I couldn't shake a scumread on you because from day 1 you were tunnelling me and refusing to see anything I did as townie, dismissing absolutely everything that made anyone else see I was townie and kept tunnelling me. The initial impression I got from Ghor was that he was intelligent and I had a hard time even after learning who you were to believe Ghor would be such an idiot in that regard. I looked up other games from you and I was coming around on my read, only to find that you just hammered me before I got a chance to post. For absolutely no reason but that you got impatient. On April 05 2013 07:27 VisceraEyes wrote: risk do something for me. Filter Cheese. Hit All. Ctrl-F "Lazer". Read all the posts that he quotes Lazer. Tell me what you see. This post must have given you a heart attack CC/LM | ||
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Ghor
Russian Federation140 Posts
All of town didn't sound sure about hopeless and RoL, and it should actually be worth a look when people like LM and CC don't find these people scummy, or defend them as lynch bait where everyone else doesn't have a clue. Especially if you are one of those people and know you're town you should take a closer look at anyone defending you like that. Sorry to pull you out of your shell where you did everything right, but everything you say I was, was actually your own fault. You played like a dick at a time where I was choosing between you and CC, and I even asked you nicely to discuss with me, omgus: + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 21:00 Ghor wrote: Several hours before lynch: Shortly before lynch: Did you say why you would lynch RoL over Syl? Why hopeless is a better lynch than syl (you told us your lynch priorities, but didn't seem to act according to them)? Find it suspicious that people started a counter bandwagon over obvious scum hopeless? All I see is you going like this: "Syl could be scum cause of x, syl could be town cause of y, I will vote syl not cause of these reasons, but only to ensure a lynch, I will mention these reasons anyway cause people ask me to". Now obviously, you will say "But Ghor, did you prefer a no-lynch instead?". No, of course not, but it's about your behaviour before the lynch, and your apparent opportunism towards the sylencia lynch and fear of being wrong, and the stuff you just said now that says you should look townie for opposing the lynch when you really didn't oppose it, but only gave your opinions about. "But Ghor, I wasn't confident" I'm sure you weren't, cause it conflicts with your objectives to notoppose a townie lynch, and assuming hopeless is town by now, being one of the main pushers of a town lynch was probably a worse option, but you could not simply jump on the sylencia wagon without justification. So you'd simply give out controversial opinions about sylencia to not look inconsistent with your earlier hopeless' superstrong scumread (by giving points in favour of scumlencia and justify a vote on him), but also giving out townie points to be able to justify that you never pushed sylencia before. I was against the Sylencia lynch and I stated several times why I wasn't sure he was scum rather then bad townie. You didn't seem to find that townie but instead find my behavior highly suspicious. Seem like you do want towncred for it though. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah, I back a risk lynch in favour over a hopeless lynch now. Sorry buddy :o] ##Vote risk.nuke + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 21:48 risk.nuke wrote: LOL, When I'm doing something townie, how is pointing that out to the thread scummy? Where do your logic come from? ##vote: Ghor I said I wanted to lynch Hopeless > RoL > Sylencia. You're saying I didn't act according to that. What bullshit because I did. You're just saying I didn't in words without disproving it, but saying something doesn't make it so. I said I would switch to Sylencia to ensure a lynch. And so I did because there were no way in hell people were going to jump of sylencia and on hopeless with MINUTES to deadline. How is that opportunistic you little filth. Denial: + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2013 02:53 Ghor wrote: ##Unvote Risk, answer my points instead of telling me I'm full of shit. If you're town you have no reason to stop talking about CC if you find him weird, just cause I think you're scum. RoL, do you have any reads to offer instead of discussing lynch options at this point? On April 06 2013 02:55 Ghor wrote: In general, if I think you're scum, let me know what you thought in that situation I find scummy. Let me hear how you got to make decisions. Childish "Fuck you"-type of posts with reactionary omgus-vote won't help me get a better read on you. It only makes you look like you react excessively emotional to the brought case. + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2013 05:17 risk.nuke wrote: Because I gave you a chance to prove that you give a shit about this game when you weren't under pressure. Which you didn't take. RoL promised activity. I have an upcoming exam to study to. I'm not going to waste time discussing with the same old people and decide which one of the active players I want to kill while I still can't get reads on the suspicious lurkers. And Hope you've not been posting for a lot longer then most of us. Your last post was 48 hours ago. On April 08 2013 07:46 risk.nuke wrote: I'm not bothering with you anymore Ghor. You're not so retarded that you could actually be town, just lay down and die. On April 07 2013 04:36 risk.nuke wrote: I see no point in posting before RoL and Hope gets back. I've been waiting for them to make a move of their own free will. How close we'd have been to lynching CC if risk didn't dick around in refusal. + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2013 05:28 Ghor wrote: I'd like to introduce you to an interesting view. I want to lynch CC and risk equally. Risk wants to lynch me and agreed on CC being suspicious. Prefers me for lynch and doesn't ever pressure CC. CC wants to lynch me and risk, but prefers me for lynch. He doesn't help in getting information out of risk. Remember CC's early pressure vote and how he said he had no idea how risk could get +2 votes without even commenting on what happened? @ Lazer Don't think VE is scum. On April 08 2013 09:04 Ghor wrote: I simply want him to respond to the points like a normal, calm dude before I decide that he's worth today's hammer. I'm curious to see if he's actually able to take back the scumread from me. He's being extremely abrasive and sounds pretty paranoid right now ("You don't want to know stuff from your top scumread"), so I'm not excluding he's just a pissed off townie who thinks he's being tackled by two scummers. I need him to talk civil before deciding. And now that the game is lost he suddenly was about to write posts? Bitch please. Risk behaved like an angry kid, no matter how nice you talked to him. After making a case against risk you're scum and retarded and he doesn't need to help you get a better read on him. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
 . Random thoughts' It may have been because I was scum but I really found russian Ghor hillarious :D. And I don't understand why everyone was so hard on him for his play early. I think he was easy to follow and clear with his logic. Town did indeed suffer from lurking. But I'd say the main reason you lost was because you were simply too off with your reads. I don't think the amount of posts in this game is a truly correct indication of our activity level because I feel that we had very little spam and no Marv with 17 pages of filter D1. So while there weren't that many posts with todays TL standards, there was stuff to analyze for sure. Reading obs QT, I saw some of you considering me to be scum but never really understood what exactly made you feel that way. Also saw that Hapa said our shot Axle was suboptimal, indicating VE was a better shot, because of heal leading to MYLO instead of LYLO D3 so not such big diference. I did know this but I'm not sure I agree, If someone gets healed then we are suddenly forced to go for 2 shots that mustn't get healed or we give town an extra day potentially. Seems like a huge risk to me. Also, you must factor in that VE being confirmed town to Ghor for one day is actually a quite big deal IMO. | ||
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On April 10 2013 19:29 Ghor wrote: First, something relevant: All of town didn't sound sure about hopeless and RoL, and it should actually be worth a look when people like LM and CC don't find these people scummy, or defend them as lynch bait where everyone else doesn't have a clue. Especially if you are one of those people and know you're town you should take a closer look at anyone defending you like that. Sorry to pull you out of your shell where you did everything right, but everything you say I was, was actually your own fault. You played like a dick at a time where I was choosing between you and CC, and I even asked you nicely to discuss with me, omgus: + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 21:00 Ghor wrote: Several hours before lynch: Shortly before lynch: Did you say why you would lynch RoL over Syl? Why hopeless is a better lynch than syl (you told us your lynch priorities, but didn't seem to act according to them)? Find it suspicious that people started a counter bandwagon over obvious scum hopeless? All I see is you going like this: "Syl could be scum cause of x, syl could be town cause of y, I will vote syl not cause of these reasons, but only to ensure a lynch, I will mention these reasons anyway cause people ask me to". Now obviously, you will say "But Ghor, did you prefer a no-lynch instead?". No, of course not, but it's about your behaviour before the lynch, and your apparent opportunism towards the sylencia lynch and fear of being wrong, and the stuff you just said now that says you should look townie for opposing the lynch when you really didn't oppose it, but only gave your opinions about. "But Ghor, I wasn't confident" I'm sure you weren't, cause it conflicts with your objectives to notoppose a townie lynch, and assuming hopeless is town by now, being one of the main pushers of a town lynch was probably a worse option, but you could not simply jump on the sylencia wagon without justification. So you'd simply give out controversial opinions about sylencia to not look inconsistent with your earlier hopeless' superstrong scumread (by giving points in favour of scumlencia and justify a vote on him), but also giving out townie points to be able to justify that you never pushed sylencia before. I was against the Sylencia lynch and I stated several times why I wasn't sure he was scum rather then bad townie. You didn't seem to find that townie but instead find my behavior highly suspicious. Seem like you do want towncred for it though. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________ So yeah, I back a risk lynch in favour over a hopeless lynch now. Sorry buddy :o] ##Vote risk.nuke + Show Spoiler + On April 05 2013 21:48 risk.nuke wrote: LOL, When I'm doing something townie, how is pointing that out to the thread scummy? Where do your logic come from? ##vote: Ghor I said I wanted to lynch Hopeless > RoL > Sylencia. You're saying I didn't act according to that. What bullshit because I did. You're just saying I didn't in words without disproving it, but saying something doesn't make it so. I said I would switch to Sylencia to ensure a lynch. And so I did because there were no way in hell people were going to jump of sylencia and on hopeless with MINUTES to deadline. How is that opportunistic you little filth. Denial: + Show Spoiler + On April 06 2013 02:53 Ghor wrote: ##Unvote Risk, answer my points instead of telling me I'm full of shit. If you're town you have no reason to stop talking about CC if you find him weird, just cause I think you're scum. RoL, do you have any reads to offer instead of discussing lynch options at this point? On April 06 2013 02:55 Ghor wrote: In general, if I think you're scum, let me know what you thought in that situation I find scummy. Let me hear how you got to make decisions. Childish "Fuck you"-type of posts with reactionary omgus-vote won't help me get a better read on you. It only makes you look like you react excessively emotional to the brought case. + Show Spoiler + On April 07 2013 05:17 risk.nuke wrote: Because I gave you a chance to prove that you give a shit about this game when you weren't under pressure. Which you didn't take. RoL promised activity. I have an upcoming exam to study to. I'm not going to waste time discussing with the same old people and decide which one of the active players I want to kill while I still can't get reads on the suspicious lurkers. And Hope you've not been posting for a lot longer then most of us. Your last post was 48 hours ago. On April 08 2013 07:46 risk.nuke wrote: I'm not bothering with you anymore Ghor. You're not so retarded that you could actually be town, just lay down and die. On April 07 2013 04:36 risk.nuke wrote: I see no point in posting before RoL and Hope gets back. I've been waiting for them to make a move of their own free will. How close we'd have been to lynching CC if risk didn't dick around in refusal. + Show Spoiler + On April 08 2013 05:28 Ghor wrote: I'd like to introduce you to an interesting view. I want to lynch CC and risk equally. Risk wants to lynch me and agreed on CC being suspicious. Prefers me for lynch and doesn't ever pressure CC. CC wants to lynch me and risk, but prefers me for lynch. He doesn't help in getting information out of risk. Remember CC's early pressure vote and how he said he had no idea how risk could get +2 votes without even commenting on what happened? @ Lazer Don't think VE is scum. On April 08 2013 09:04 Ghor wrote: I simply want him to respond to the points like a normal, calm dude before I decide that he's worth today's hammer. I'm curious to see if he's actually able to take back the scumread from me. He's being extremely abrasive and sounds pretty paranoid right now ("You don't want to know stuff from your top scumread"), so I'm not excluding he's just a pissed off townie who thinks he's being tackled by two scummers. I need him to talk civil before deciding. And now that the game is lost he suddenly was about to write posts? Bitch please. Risk behaved like an angry kid, no matter how nice you talked to him. After making a case against risk you're scum and retarded and he doesn't need to help you get a better read on him. Let me pull you out of your shell where I'm the idiot. It's not your word against mine, it's your word against everyone and saying I was a scummy dick in an attempt to make you feel/look better doesn't making it so. The cases against me WAS retarded you daft little fucker. I sat at this computer entire days ready to post. Do you know how fucking frustrating it is to put effort into a gamer and then your co-player doesn't or are retards? And then when the game is over the little fags have the nerve to try to pin it on me? I wasn't posting because I was going over you RoL and Hopeless trying to find which one of you was the retard and which two was scum. Then all of a sudden I get hammered by you YOU FUCKING RETARD. You can ask strong&big that I was around, I asked for the qt minutes after I got hammered. I was here. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On April 10 2013 19:56 Lazermonkey wrote: Town did indeed suffer from lurking. But I'd say the main reason you lost was because you were simply too off with your reads. Town were so off with their reads because of all the lurking, you see. | ||
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Lazermonkey
Sweden2176 Posts
On April 10 2013 21:02 marvellosity wrote: Yes, that is obviously part of the reason. But not the whole. Take the risk misslynch for example. I don't think you can blame that on lurking really.Town were so off with their reads because of all the lurking, you see. | ||
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