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On March 22 2013 00:17 TheRavensName wrote: This time when I tunnel your day 1 suspicious play.. you will die. Yay! Raven mad, wants to lynch me all the days. Watch we roll scum together. Let's double bus, you down? | ||
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I'd rather kill Ray right now. On March 22 2013 23:15 raynpelikoneet wrote: If they are covering each other, why would JarJar point out Raven's suspicious actions? - Raven "agrees with me" that JarJar is hostile. I have never implied i think JarJar is being hostile. Raven is basically saying On March 22 2013 21:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: It's pretty interesting you say this. How do you propose we actually get the game going if everyone acts like this? On March 22 2013 21:59 raynpelikoneet wrote: Why do you feel like you have to tell people you won't be lurking when nobody is even accusing you of lurking? Why so defensive? Afraid of something? You never implied JarJar was hostile...but you were voting him and calling him out on a bunch of shit. Apparently you had a reason to believe he is scum (hostile, yes?). Then,you proceed to sheep his quote on Raven. What were you trying to accomplish here? Because it certainly doesn't seem town-motivated to be questioning a 'scum read' and then switching bases completely when he picks up something moderately scummy in someone else. ##Vote: Ray So, bro, tell me, what IS your stance on JarJar? Did your read on him suddenly evaporate? | ||
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On March 22 2013 23:57 TheRavensName wrote: My favorite part is Frorgon gets to sheep a post in and doesn't get called for it, but V gets jumped 10 minutes after he shows up.. I posted my explination for wording and reasonings behind it. Pease find something else for me to do other then respond to the same points over and over again. Stop complaining. If you're town you'll find something to do. | ||
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All you've done so far is make some lurking comment and call out Raven this game. If you really think he is scummy provide some backup for it, instead of bolstering the case with a single comment and then disappearing. It pisses me off when people do that. So non-commital. | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:22 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rainbows: I called JarJar out because i found it odd he needed to tell everyone he isn't gonna lurk. I don't think that was a "bunch of shit". It also started the discussion. Why do you think calling out little stuff early on in the game is scummy? Because there is nothing but little stuff to start with. I thought the hostile meant his behaviour is hostile, not that the word hostile=scum. Why do you think Raven meant it that way? It's not sheeping if you agree with someone. I made the same observation he did and pointed it out (in addition i pointed out other stuff i found out scummy in Raven's post). Based on what JarJar has said i'm leaning town on him. He's being open and actually does shit that makes sense. What's your read on Raven? Calling out little stuff early game isn't scummy. It's the fact that you switched gears so fucking fast and were like "SHIT DUDE, This Raven guy right here, so scummy (:". Okay I'll give you the point hostile doesn't always = scummy, but generally it is. Oh so you're leaning town on Jar, interesting. | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:31 TheRavensName wrote: Sigh this is why I didn't want to make a case. If I had made it first it would have been descredited as me trying to save myself, and now I'm sheeping. Its exactly like the last game we played with accused people! YAY! Except those people flipped scum. . .? MLuneth omgus'd me so hard I lynched the him, made me happy. Raven, Your post is based on the fact that Ray called you out on some shit, and you defended said shit, but he still thinks you're scummy. I think it's an emotional vote. | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:33 TheRavensName wrote: PS: By Rayn's logic I'm not sheeping. I'm agreeing with you xD Except I don't entirely disagree with his points against you. The wish-washy statement was valid and true. You agree (sheep?) my point, and then just say that Ray is completely wrong in his reasoning and that makes him scum. Bad reasoning can come from either alignment, unfortunately. Raven, at this point i'm leaning slight town on you because I think your vote was cavalier and not based on solid reasoning other than what I presented. | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:44 TheRavensName wrote: Actually NW and Meatless both had it happen to them, and NW only survive cause Arctic made himself look really bad when he came back after getting his blank pass. No not really. Actually, in hindsightI used against you last game, "Your super aggressive and I dislike that and find it scummy." Its too early to go after lurkers, as I think the first day should contain a 24 hour grace period and they have posted nothing to make themselves look bad. I already said that I think Jar is just like melast game and just kind of newbie and green, and hes shown that by running with the ball so far I'm giving him a null read. Really my only choices so far are Ray and Frorgon.Now that I think back to it and started re-looking over last game again Frorgron he lurked for the first chunk of day 1 last game anyways so I mean.. I'm just assuming he is at like work or something and only had time for that one post eventhough it bothers me (and I sad as much.) This leaves me with Ray and hes the case I attempted to strengthen. Well I had the giant ass case on scum and he basically said I was wrong, super defended himself, and that I was scum for it. Anyway, I'm a bit confused as to Ray's intentions in all of these shennanies. @Ray I don't think Raven is scum solely based on the evidence given. Talk to me. Do you really believe he is scum atm? What about guys with zero pressure on them such as Frogon and Virtu? So easy for scum to hide in a shitfest such as this. Hell, what dost thou thinkest of ME? | ||
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On March 23 2013 00:48 virtu wrote: So far the only person that's really caught my attention is ray, for how aggressive he's being, the speed of which he's exchanged his focus and vote. These are all points that have been brought up by others, but it's the only truly suspicious thing happening atm. @ray what do you hope to achieve by switching focus at the drop of a pin with your agressiveness? two or three more posts like that and you're going after half the thread. Do you think this is an effective way to find mafia? why? Holy crap you're scum. ##Unvote ##Vote: Virtu | ||
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On March 09 2013 00:04 Arctic Daishi wrote: Been reading up on recent happenings for about 15 minutes now. I tend to agree with Krafla, TheRavensName and OmniEulogy in that no-lynching is a bad idea. If we don't start gathering information now, then we'll be off to a disadvantage. I think if there's a possibility of lynching someone on the other side, then we should take it. This is my first game though, so I could very well be making the wrong move. I voted for Kafla, because a few other people suspected him as well, making him suspicious. AD post this last game, he was scum ^ On March 23 2013 00:48 virtu wrote: So far the only person that's really caught my attention is ray, for how aggressive he's being, the speed of which he's exchanged his focus and vote. These are all points that have been brought up by others, but it's the only truly suspicious thing happening atm. @ray what do you hope to achieve by switching focus at the drop of a pin with your agressiveness? two or three more posts like that and you're going after half the thread. Do you think this is an effective way to find mafia? why? See the parrallel? It's scum mentality. He literally doesn't bring any new information to the thread. Virtu, you pass it off as a 'cute' move and then call me the GF -- are you seriously role speculating right now? I can't even fathom a town considering this ---> it's literally attributing townie actions to make someone scummy. | ||
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Krafla TheRavensName JarJarDrinks Rainbows nobodywonder Frogron Fishgle raynpelikoneet virtu We're all thinking it, I'm just doing the legwork. /grumble grumble Also: Is that geript vote really on the votecount. . . And I need sleep. We need to consolidate votes by deadline or this is going to end up in a shitfest. Kill virtu with fire kthnx, bigger post inc in morning I want people who aren't voting to make a stance so I can analyze this lynch. Last minute shenanigans are not something to be desired. | ||
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On March 23 2013 20:29 raynpelikoneet wrote: Everyone who has not voted need to take a look at the cases presented so far and vote for one of them. Or present a case of their own. Otherwise we end up with a shitfest in the last hours of the phase and that's not good. Way to say exactly what I just said. Good use of reading mechanics. | ||
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On March 22 2013 23:33 virtu wrote: I'm a fan of posting constructively and of posting relevant content that helps with scumhunting, but I'd just like to point two things out, firstly that it's very early in the first day, and a bit of banter shouldn't be seen as dodging posting constructively. Secondly, a few of these votes are policy votes, joke votes or votes based on a previous game. Whilst these votes DO generate discussion, it does so between the person voting and the votee. It's difficult for an outsider to post directly on these votes until a response has been made by the person being voted for, and some discussion has been generated. Which is, for example, why my opening post contained a hello and a comment about flavour. However this is no excuse to lurk for half of the day, discussion should be generated ASAP. Another thing this post does that I don't like is semi-imply that it's OK to...don't know how to put it but it's OK to post less, semi-lurk or be unsure of contributing just because it's day 1 and historically tough to weed mafia out. This is infact the opposite, if anything day1 should be as discussion-filled as possible BECAUSE it's harder to find mafia d1, more effort, posts and discussion are needed. As town, you should NEVER be afraid to post. Speak your mind, as long as you keep your thoughts constructive and concise so you aren't misconstrued as trying to cause chaos in the thread you'll be fine. Sidenote: I know the two halves of this post kind of contradict each other - but both are valid points so i'm going to post them together anyway. This is virtu's first real post. I ask myself: what is he trying to accomplish here? Instead of commenting on the happenings in the thread, it is simply speaking in generalities. Town should be doing this, we should be generating discussion this way. Guys, obviously I'm pro-town if I'm suggesting we do these pro-town things but not actually do them. How does this post further towns agenda of finding scum? It doesn't. It's a pretty generic post that serves no real purpose on than for people to go "Ahh! Yes! This fine TLer right here, he is advocating pro-town things!" Here's the post that really caught my attention: On March 23 2013 00:48 virtu wrote: So far the only person that's really caught my attention is ray, for how aggressive he's being, the speed of which he's exchanged his focus and vote. These are all points that have been brought up by others, but it's the only truly suspicious thing happening atm. @ray what do you hope to achieve by switching focus at the drop of a pin with your agressiveness? two or three more posts like that and you're going after half the thread. Do you think this is an effective way to find mafia? why? At this point in time, I had just made a post on Ray and voted him. Virtu steps in a page later and simply casts his 'suspicion' upon him. Why is this post scummy? Because virtu is not attempting to find scum on his own. . . he is content at using my post on Ray in order to justify his 'read'. Town want to search all possible avenues, but apparently the only thing that has caught his attention is something I earlier put in bold. There was plenty of other things scummy in the thread at the time that nobody mentioned (see: frogron question). Why is virtu not trying to find scum himself? And he hasn't all game long. I won't comment on the Godfather incident. On March 23 2013 01:40 virtu wrote: It is too early to go after lurkers but not too early to notice they aren't really posting, which they should start doing asap. Outside opinions on the back and forth between you and raven, and rainbow's colourful (pun intended) contributions would be nice. What the hell is this post trying to say? So we should not go after lurkers (easy target) but we should definitely notice they aren't doing shit! So yeah guys, be suspect of lurkers right now. Pretty paramount that we notice those lurkers aren't posting, because, you know, that gets us places. virtu's defence On March 23 2013 02:50 virtu wrote: If you take the GF thing seriously, you're stupid. I'm clearly responding to your utterly ridiculous attempt at calling me scum with an equally ridiculous response. Simple as that. Also, your comparison is terrible, I'm ADMITTING i'm not adding anything to the thread in my own post because I know I'm not, and I have nothing to add at that moment in time. Still, I post it because it's better to post whether I agree/disagree with things others have said than to not post at all, even if it is one way scum hide amongst townies. In AD's post he accidentally adds in the fact that he's sheeping others, in a post trying to look like he's adding to the thread. they're completely different posts. Basically flails his arms at me and calls me stupid, which made me giggle on the inside. Firstly, the comparison between his post and AD's post is concrete, dispute that all you want. Was a scummy post yo. In reference to the bolded, wtf? So you should post to agree / disagree and act all scummy as hell? IF THIS IS YOUR PHILOSOPHY ON PLAYING TOWN, PLEASE LEAVE SIR. virtu refuses to find scum on his own. AT ALL! I also thought his response to the Fishgle post was interesting. But that's for another day. Synopsis: - virtu posts paragraphs that do nothing to further towns agenda. - virtu doesn't hunt scum all game, and refuses to. - virtu openly sheeps with zero original thinking, but we should be suspect of lurkers. virtu best lynch right now, gonna be flippin' scum all over this bitch. | ||
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On March 23 2013 21:52 raynpelikoneet wrote: Rainbows: Do you have anything to comment on virtu's defence on his case? What are your thoughts on Frorgon and Fishgle? See above. Frorgon seems to be on the wagon of great justice, so he seems alright to me. Fishgle hasn't done anything besides be bad at this game so far. | ||
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