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On February 27 2013 19:28 Vivax wrote:
...and then proceeds to say: Oh well, I'll stick to Prom/Vivax and fucks off.
I think he was telling OO to stick to Prom/Vivax, not that those were the only people Hassy was looking at.
On February 27 2013 10:18 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 10:18 Hassybaby wrote:
OO, you're gonna have to narrow that down a bit bud, because from my first read through, pretty much everyone's been a target, as well as a few people not even in the game
Lets have a chat about that though. Do you not think any of the current candidates are a strong read right now? Why not? Between Prom/Vivax or are you talking about any other candidates?
On February 27 2013 10:21 Hassybaby wrote:
Lets stick with Prom/Virax for now
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I don't think so, Oo didn't have me on his list.
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Besides, what's more suspicious is that he asks Oo to narrow down a 5-dude-list when there's layabout posting a 7-dude list and saying we shouldn't lynch Prom.
Oo was under pressure, layabout wasn't.
Hassy wants to lynch me and Prom, yet asks the guy with Prom in his list to narrow it down and ignores layabout.
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OO specifically asked if Hassy wanted him to discuss Prom/Vivax... I don't see how Hassy's post could be anything but an answer to OO's post which I quoted.
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It looks to me like he picked Oo out of opportunism, when there are multiple people pressuring Oo, then asking questions specifically to him gives him more credit despite not having done much at all.
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Oh I see what you meant now. I got that wrong.
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On February 27 2013 19:38 Vivax wrote:
Besides, what's more suspicious is that he asks Oo to narrow down a 5-dude-list when there's layabout posting a 7-dude list and saying we shouldn't lynch Prom.
Oo was under pressure, layabout wasn't.
Hassy wants to lynch me and Prom, yet asks the guy with Prom in his list to narrow it down and ignores layabout.
Given the timestamps I imagine Hassy made that post asking OO about his list before seeing Layabout's post. I doubt he saw them both and decided to only pressure OO.
The fact that Hassy didn't also ask Layabout about his list afterwards is odd though I agree.
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I still don't like what I see. Can't convince myself that Hassy had a real interest into getting something useful out of Oo given his uncommitting answer regarding me and the lack of followup.
On February 27 2013 10:21 ObviousOne wrote:
Prom's already in my list. Vivax is a wildcard for me. I can't read Vivax as well as I presume others can. I'm just one vote, if you guys think he's scum I'll try to dissuade the vote if I think he's town but I'm not committed either way as far as Vivax is concerned.
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"Hey Oo, narrow down that list"
"Wat, why?"
"You've been talking about too many people throughout the game, let's talk about the guys likely to get lynched"
"Oh I see is there anyone specific you want to talk about, like Vivax and Prom?"
"Yeah let's talk about Vivax and Prom"
"Prom is in my list. Dunno about Vivax."
"Kthxbai"
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On February 27 2013 01:32 The Milkman wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 01:28 Toadesstern wrote:On February 27 2013 01:26 The Milkman wrote:On February 27 2013 01:22 Toadesstern wrote:On February 27 2013 01:16 Vivax wrote:
It's obvious milkman is yamato.
Actually not sure if I want to lynch him. His head over heels blind frothing aggressiveness would mean he's likely town.
But his points are so stupid and his behaviour so anti-town that I really feel like. if he's yamato he is almost certainly town. Like the townies mofo that ever towned a town. And that's something in a game with iamp. Though I haven't checked him out to see if he's actually town this game. Was kind of busy owning mafia and playing dota inbetween. You should not base your read on who I might be, but rather who I am right now. The point of a smurf is to throw meta out of the way and that's what I want to achieve with me smurfing. I don't care about what you want to achieve with it. If meta helps me read you I'll use it no matter if you like it or not. Sad thing I don't know if Vivax is basing his assumption on something or just spouting nonsense. Okay, if you are so set on me being yamato77, then so be it. I guess I should be happy that someone thinks I am town, but the way you created your reasoning is not exactly one I'd like to be made.
hahahaha no dude I'm not yamato77. It's like the guy saying "No bro I didn't steal that car stereo and that wallet of yours really".
I'm sure this dude is yamato and he's being less active than when he's town on the long term. Lynch it!Lynch it!
On February 26 2013 19:52 The Milkman wrote:
Stop asking for day kills and trying to get the identities of smurfs, useless fluff and it only makes the thread big. I am sorry for not posting this in one post but I am getting really dismayed by the one liner festive over here. Effort people, were on like page thirty and we are not even half through the day. I understand Promethelax's plan, it fizzled but what are we going to do. I understand some smurfs suspicion of him planning a getaway with a rng argument. People are quite upfront about their opinions, that is one good thing... Besides all that negativity flowing through them...
"Oh man I understand what Prom wanted to do there, it was shit but what should we do about it, I know he's getting flak for it from some dudes we don't know for a good reason and that's good but being negative isn't good."
On February 26 2013 22:33 The Milkman wrote:
My initial read on Promethelax was such a disaster, I support his lynch wholeheartedly. His play does not sum up as a town one in my book. He should push analysis, help with shooting down bad plans, actually scum hunt and so on. What is his reaction to pressure? No reaction. He just seems to start posting one liners and filler. I understand Dr's reluctance to be elected mayor, he just wants to play for a little while for once. Viscera is playing cool too. Milksuckler got a little townier than at the start, he seemed cold. Now he seems to be in the mafia trance! Vivax is in my opinion playing terribly, trying to do meaningless stuff like smurf identities, spamming and overall fluff. Toad strikes me as suspicious because of his position and calling for day vig. He does not seem right based on meta - he is not the guy to be "somewhere" but the guy to be at the top of town's structure. Leading, working hard and scumhunting.
2:30 h later.
"No wait actually his plan was shit and he's scum, I would bus him.VE is town. Also Milksuckler, Vivax and Toad scum!"
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That's obviously a premature connection case, but it would just fit so well.
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Why this low activity, "Milkman"?
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On February 27 2013 18:25 The Milkman wrote:
Obvious, your list serves no purpose. Why are you accusing someone without good points? Two of your reasons are trolling. Listen, this is a big game. We do not need fluff posts in here. I mean, I would love to be so good to be sure someone is scum based on his name, but you know, I suck. Your posts still are short and without any substance whatsoever. When pressured you get in this weird spiked turtle mode and tell everyone to basically fuck off. Either defend yourself or just shrug it off. I do not think I played with someone like this, so please manner up if you care for normal town (and human) atmosphere. There is scum agenda in your posting history and obviously I dont like that.
Also I noticed that some people said they dont like something about me: please say what exactly because there is nothing I can actually talk about that in this regard. Now I will jump into some filters of people like Macho, layabout and wave.
This post looks artificial, too. In the first underlined part he starts with some general info on how to play the game and talks about fluff and people being scum based on the name and even says he sucks by himself, which doesn't make any sense whatsoever if he feels serious about what he's writing.
In the second it looks like some made up accusation, he's basically telling Oo how to play and how he doesn't like the way he plays. It's almost like he's justifying himself towards Oo for pushing him.
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I never called Toad or Milksuckler scum. I talked with Toad about this already and my remark on Milk was about him playing better and better in my eyes as the time moved on. About the timestamps: I was and am reading this thread at school, which means I have 10 minutes every 45 minutes to spend on reading and that is not always true. Same about you, I noticed that all you have done is spam the thread, which holds true to this moment, although you are focusing on something at last. I dont call anyone scum unless I call someone scum. If I raise a suspicion, I raise a suspicion, that is all. Kapish? Also, you should not base your read on me on your identity guess, for all you know I am Katina or youngminii.
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Oh, I forgot about some replacement lessons with the German learning group where I have 45 minutes. School is crazy, eh?
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Seems like I have more time, so here is a quick note about Macho.
He has been doing this roleplaying thing - fine, he is easily readable through that so no problem.
At one point he started to shift towards Vivax lynch not Promethelax lynch. He seems to think that the biggest offence Prom did is leaving the thread. He attacks Vivax in the same post on the basis that he is trying to push people without concrete evidence. Then Vivax posts this bad post of his and Macho does a 180 and targets me.
Then, layabout defends me... I know he likes doing that as scum.
Lesson back will write more later
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On February 27 2013 22:02 The Milkman wrote:
Seems like I have more time, so here is a quick note about Macho.
He has been doing this roleplaying thing - fine, he is easily readable through that so no problem.
At one point he started to shift towards Vivax lynch not Promethelax lynch. He seems to think that the biggest offence Prom did is leaving the thread. He attacks Vivax in the same post on the basis that he is trying to push people without concrete evidence. Then Vivax posts this bad post of his and Macho does a 180 and targets me.
Then, layabout defends me... I know he likes doing that as scum.
Lesson back will write more later Firstly, is this a point about Macho... or a point about layabout?
Secondly, Im curious you find Macho "easily readable".
Let me share a post about iamperfection in his concurrent game.
On February 27 2013 From "This Town Ain't Big Enough"Iamperfection Town. He literally blurts out his reads as he sees them. This is vintage iamp town play. He's confident and not afraid to shove it in your face - linkDo not waste time considering him as scum. Now in that game; he gives direct scum read(s), fuck all justification. Typical iamp town core.
This game; I challenge you/anyone to tell me who his top scum read(s) are.
What I noticed was a lot of "+1" posts.
I won't bother asking to show fuck all justification, because the whole filter reads like that. At least that is common across the two filters.
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On February 27 2013 22:39 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 22:02 The Milkman wrote:
Seems like I have more time, so here is a quick note about Macho.
He has been doing this roleplaying thing - fine, he is easily readable through that so no problem.
At one point he started to shift towards Vivax lynch not Promethelax lynch. He seems to think that the biggest offence Prom did is leaving the thread. He attacks Vivax in the same post on the basis that he is trying to push people without concrete evidence. Then Vivax posts this bad post of his and Macho does a 180 and targets me.
Then, layabout defends me... I know he likes doing that as scum.
Lesson back will write more later Firstly, is this a point about Macho... or a point about layabout? Secondly, Im curious you find Macho "easily readable". Let me share a post about iamperfection in his concurrent game. Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 From "This Town Ain't Big Enough"Iamperfection Town. He literally blurts out his reads as he sees them. This is vintage iamp town play. He's confident and not afraid to shove it in your face - linkDo not waste time considering him as scum. Now in that game; he gives direct scum read(s), fuck all justification. Typical iamp town core. This game; I challenge you/anyone to tell me who his top scum read(s) are.What I noticed was a lot of "+1" posts. I won't bother asking to show fuck all justification, because the whole filter reads like that. At least that is common across the two filters.
Everything besides last line is about macho, then I started talking about layabout because he had defended me and Macho was talking with him about why he did so. I find Macho easy to read because besides him referring to himself in funny names and superbia his short posts are straight to the point.
On my way home so I can finally read that layabout filter.
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So okay, layabout is doing his usual null aggressive play, wants to kill Wade no matter the alignment and does not want to lynch promethelax for a reason that it is not his fault that there was no discussion on rng. Je defends me not on the principle of what I have done or not but defends me because he thinks there was not enough time yet to scumhunt or contribute heavily. I do not quite understand this point.
Layabout, are you saying that so far you could only do null blabber? An answer would be appreciated. I dont find you scummy, just reluctance to lynch promethelax, your defense of me and somehow putting Grush57 on lynch list while you did not agree with policy lynches at the very start of the game make me wonder what is the reasoning behind all of that.
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Of course note that he (you) was talking about d2 lynch with his list.
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