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Obvious, your list serves no purpose. Why are you accusing someone without good points? Two of your reasons are trolling. Listen, this is a big game. We do not need fluff posts in here. I mean, I would love to be so good to be sure someone is scum based on his name, but you know, I suck. Your posts still are short and without any substance whatsoever. When pressured you get in this weird spiked turtle mode and tell everyone to basically fuck off. Either defend yourself or just shrug it off. I do not think I played with someone like this, so please manner up if you care for normal town (and human) atmosphere. There is scum agenda in your posting history and obviously I dont like that.
Also I noticed that some people said they dont like something about me: please say what exactly because there is nothing I can actually talk about that in this regard. Now I will jump into some filters of people like Macho, layabout and wave.
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On February 27 2013 16:17 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 16:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm really growing more and more impatient with Obvious. It feels like he doesn't care about this game at all. Are you saying you think he's town?
This post made my scumdar go off, this guy asked two questions about OO earlier but stopped pushing him despite posting the posts at the bottom earlier.
He's currently agreeing with VE on Toad, but he never pressures Oo despite having a scumread on him, he just keeps asking others about their opinion on him.
On February 26 2013 11:02 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 10:59 Promethelax wrote:On February 26 2013 10:54 Aquanim wrote:On February 26 2013 10:43 Promethelax wrote:
Talk to me about aqua. On February 26 2013 10:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Need more dataz. So far I'm not interested in lynching him if that's what you're asking - his read on OO seems genuine (and in my opinion decent). On February 26 2013 10:48 Promethelax wrote:
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Are you being serious or sarcastic about aqua? I'm not sure how VE's post could be construed as sarcastic... but in any case I get the feeling you have an opinion on me. Care to share it? Well I'd like to hear something from you first. Who is scum and why? My current strongest scum read is ObviousOne for the reasons stated earlier. His protestations of "I can't give reads early" combined with the reads he has in fact given with little-to-no reasoning feels like scum trying to contribute without actually committing himself. I don't have time to analyse everyone's play at the moment so that's all I have for now.
On February 27 2013 13:31 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 02:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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I think ObviousOne (for reasons already mentioned, read posts by Aquanim and the Milkman, I can go more in depth) is likely mafia. I also think vigilantes/detectives ought to look closely through the filter of WaveofShadow and jcarlsoniv with a copy of Ver's Town Guide in the next tab and see what you feel like doing tonight.
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Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.
Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax
Gg no re
If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?
Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.
If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time. @DoctorHelvetica, where did the scum reads on ObviousOne, WoS and jcarlsoniv go?
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On February 27 2013 18:30 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 16:17 Aquanim wrote:On February 27 2013 16:11 VisceraEyes wrote:
I'm really growing more and more impatient with Obvious. It feels like he doesn't care about this game at all. Are you saying you think he's town? This post made my scumdar go off, this guy asked two questions about OO earlier but stopped pushing him despite posting the posts at the bottom earlier. He's currently agreeing with VE on Toad, but he never pressures Oo despite having a scumread on him, he just keeps asking others about their opinion on him. Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 11:02 Aquanim wrote:On February 26 2013 10:59 Promethelax wrote:On February 26 2013 10:54 Aquanim wrote:On February 26 2013 10:43 Promethelax wrote:
Talk to me about aqua. On February 26 2013 10:48 VisceraEyes wrote:
Need more dataz. So far I'm not interested in lynching him if that's what you're asking - his read on OO seems genuine (and in my opinion decent). On February 26 2013 10:48 Promethelax wrote:
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Are you being serious or sarcastic about aqua? I'm not sure how VE's post could be construed as sarcastic... but in any case I get the feeling you have an opinion on me. Care to share it? Well I'd like to hear something from you first. Who is scum and why? My current strongest scum read is ObviousOne for the reasons stated earlier. His protestations of "I can't give reads early" combined with the reads he has in fact given with little-to-no reasoning feels like scum trying to contribute without actually committing himself. I don't have time to analyse everyone's play at the moment so that's all I have for now. Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 13:31 Aquanim wrote:On February 27 2013 02:18 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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I think ObviousOne (for reasons already mentioned, read posts by Aquanim and the Milkman, I can go more in depth) is likely mafia. I also think vigilantes/detectives ought to look closely through the filter of WaveofShadow and jcarlsoniv with a copy of Ver's Town Guide in the next tab and see what you feel like doing tonight.
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On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.
Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax
Gg no re
If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?
Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.
If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time. @DoctorHelvetica, where did the scum reads on ObviousOne, WoS and jcarlsoniv go?
I've been waiting to see if Obvious was inclined to do anything useful on his own. Only so much you can learn from pressure.
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I don't ask many questions either Vivax. Am I scum?
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What's your read of Prom aqua?
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On February 27 2013 18:35 VisceraEyes wrote:
I don't ask many questions either Vivax. Am I scum?
You think the way aqua has been handling his scumreads was ok?What's your read on him?
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On February 27 2013 18:39 Vivax wrote:
What's your read of Prom aqua?
Likely scum, mostly based on his failure to try to make much of anything happen with the RNG lynch gambit. A fair fraction of my wish to lynch him is based on sheeping people who know him much better than me though.
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Fuck this I've been staring at this thread for like 3 hours and I've been largely ignored except for people bitching about how I post. I'm done for tonight.
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Vivax, I'll be a little clearer about my current strategy. I could be more aggressive and push scumreads more, but the lynch is a bit of an empty threat at the moment given the general consensus on Prom being today's lynch. At the moment I'm mostly just asking questions to generate more information for analysis later.
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On February 26 2013 18:43 Aquanim wrote:nope what? Promethelax isn't town, Macho isn't scum, both, or something else entirely? While you're here could you walk me through the case on Prom?
On February 26 2013 19:09 Aquanim wrote:mkay, thanks. Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 18:52 Wade Fell wrote:
Nope JJ's post is absolutely terrible. "Oh hey guys i have this thing that will convince you but I'm not gonna say it cause I'm too busy eating babies, having risky sexual encounters, and perpetrating voter fraud in Eastern Europe" is not a legitimate thing you can say in Mafia. Are you saying you think JJ is scum? What does his post being terrible mean? And on Prom, do you think his posturing over RNG is necessarily a scum move? Suggesting a RNG lynch while knowing full well it's a terrible idea is a gambit I've seen before, and "gambit" was the first thing I thought when I saw it. Not sure whether people who did it previously were scum or not though. Still, I don't see how it couldn't be town-motivated, as a method to create discussion. His "case" on you is frankly pretty bad. That being said, I don't see how going back and reading the thread and noticing something you didn't before is scummy as such.
On February 26 2013 19:44 Aquanim wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 19:19 Wade Fell wrote:
If Prom was really trying to raise discussion with his rng as he claims, he'd have actually gotten into discussions with people. Any townie would naturally get arguing and get involved as people disagreed with him, especially one who was taking a position specifically for the purpose of starting discussions. A town Prom, if he did this, would have a bunch of posts, quote chains of him discussing RNG with haters, drumming up support, etc, and forcing scum to take stances. That's what a town player bringing up discussion looks like. Prom does NOT do this. Prom is scum. OK, I buy this. ##Vote: Wade FellI'm still in favour of a lynch on Obvious because I feel like he overreacted to my pressure on him and since my interaction with him all he has is a filter page's worth of useless fluff. In fact, all of Obvious's filter is useless fluff. There's more than one scum in the game though and I agree, Prom's failure to actually try to make anything happen with his RNG gambit does not evoke towny feelings.
You flipflopped pretty quickly on Prom's RNG gambit while subtly trying to switch attention to Oo throughout and afterwards. I don't see you mentioning Prom after this.
Prom's RNG behaviour went from a townie gambit to a scummy failure. I don't see what changed in between for you.
Could you mention other reasons for why you think he's scum?
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I'd also like to know what people think of Hassy's entrance.
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On February 27 2013 18:47 Vivax wrote:Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 18:43 Aquanim wrote:On February 26 2013 18:33 Wade Fell wrote:
nope nope what? Promethelax isn't town, Macho isn't scum, both, or something else entirely? While you're here could you walk me through the case on Prom? Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 19:09 Aquanim wrote:mkay, thanks. On February 26 2013 18:52 Wade Fell wrote:
Nope JJ's post is absolutely terrible. "Oh hey guys i have this thing that will convince you but I'm not gonna say it cause I'm too busy eating babies, having risky sexual encounters, and perpetrating voter fraud in Eastern Europe" is not a legitimate thing you can say in Mafia. Are you saying you think JJ is scum? What does his post being terrible mean? And on Prom, do you think his posturing over RNG is necessarily a scum move? Suggesting a RNG lynch while knowing full well it's a terrible idea is a gambit I've seen before, and "gambit" was the first thing I thought when I saw it. Not sure whether people who did it previously were scum or not though. Still, I don't see how it couldn't be town-motivated, as a method to create discussion. His "case" on you is frankly pretty bad. That being said, I don't see how going back and reading the thread and noticing something you didn't before is scummy as such. Show nested quote +On February 26 2013 19:44 Aquanim wrote:On February 26 2013 19:19 Wade Fell wrote:
If Prom was really trying to raise discussion with his rng as he claims, he'd have actually gotten into discussions with people. Any townie would naturally get arguing and get involved as people disagreed with him, especially one who was taking a position specifically for the purpose of starting discussions. A town Prom, if he did this, would have a bunch of posts, quote chains of him discussing RNG with haters, drumming up support, etc, and forcing scum to take stances. That's what a town player bringing up discussion looks like. Prom does NOT do this. Prom is scum. OK, I buy this. ##Vote: Wade FellI'm still in favour of a lynch on Obvious because I feel like he overreacted to my pressure on him and since my interaction with him all he has is a filter page's worth of useless fluff. In fact, all of Obvious's filter is useless fluff. There's more than one scum in the game though and I agree, Prom's failure to actually try to make anything happen with his RNG gambit does not evoke towny feelings. You flipflopped pretty quickly on Prom's RNG gambit while subtly trying to switch attention to Oo throughout and afterwards. I don't see you mentioning Prom after this. Prom's RNG behaviour went from a townie gambit to a scummy failure. I don't see what changed in between for you. Could you mention other reasons for why you think he's scum?
I didn't see any further purpose to mentioning Prom after that. I was convinced by the case and it's hardly like the Prom lynch has been discussed a whole lot since.
I originally thought that people were thinking Prom scummy for the RNG gambit in as of itself, which I didn't agree with. When his lack of actual effort in trying to make the gambit successful was highlighted I went back and read it myself and agreed. As for other reasons... go back and read the case Wade quoted at me, though the lack of effort into the gambit was the only part I'm firmly convinced has no likely town explanation.
And yeah, I still think OO's scum and if his play doesn't convince me otherwise by tomorrow I'll push for his lynch.
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I'm leaning town on Aqua.
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That's all then. Could you take a look at Hassy and tell me if you see anything scummy?
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On February 27 2013 19:03 Vivax wrote:
That's all then. Could you take a look at Hassy and tell me if you see anything scummy?
Whats going on vivid axe?
I am used to you outright calling people scum, and trying to get them to crumble.
Now you are being polite but assertive... you get hit on the head or something?
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On February 27 2013 12:10 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 12:08 Hassybaby wrote:
Ok, it's 3am here and I have to leave for the airport in half an hour, so I'll read up again in about 10 hours Is it just me or does this read like he's been here reading all along and was signing off in spite of having said like nothing in hours? :/
On February 27 2013 12:12 VisceraEyes wrote:
Just making sure. Dat's scummy!
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On February 27 2013 19:08 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 12:10 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 27 2013 12:08 Hassybaby wrote:
Ok, it's 3am here and I have to leave for the airport in half an hour, so I'll read up again in about 10 hours Is it just me or does this read like he's been here reading all along and was signing off in spite of having said like nothing in hours? :/
LOL-Cakes.
Whats the chances Vivid Axe was already aware of this?
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On February 27 2013 19:03 Vivax wrote:
That's all then. Could you take a look at Hassy and tell me if you see anything scummy?
There's not much to look at :/
For someone running for Pardoner (in his first post) Hassy hasn't put any effort since into looking town... which one would think would be a prerequisite, given that pretty much the only point of the role for town is to keep it out of scum's hands.
His throwaway bid for Pardoner, without any followup in terms of campaigning, is slightly scummy - I can well imagine a scum trying for the role, then ignoring it and slipping away when his bid doesn't gain any traction.
Besides that all he's done is talk a little with OO which is null for me without anything further in his filter to correlate with it. Obviously I'm hoping for more content when he's less busy.
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On February 27 2013 19:07 MilkSuckler wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 19:03 Vivax wrote:
That's all then. Could you take a look at Hassy and tell me if you see anything scummy? Whats going on vivid axe? I am used to you outright calling people scum, and trying to get them to crumble. Now you are being polite but assertive... you get hit on the head or something?
Wtf do you want as answer to that?
How about you go rub your neighbour's lemon tree and stop asking dumb questions?
On February 27 2013 19:08 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 12:10 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 27 2013 12:08 Hassybaby wrote:
Ok, it's 3am here and I have to leave for the airport in half an hour, so I'll read up again in about 10 hours Is it just me or does this read like he's been here reading all along and was signing off in spite of having said like nothing in hours? :/
I rather hoped you would notice how he asks Oo to narrow down his list for a reason that looks made up and then proceeds to say: Oh well, I'll stick to Prom/Vivax and fucks off.
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