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On February 27 2013 10:14 ObviousOne wrote:
My short list
Prom - self explanatory, and why I'm voting VE or DocH for mayor
layabout - instigating arguments instead of just ignoring the shit that apparently doesn't matter anyway
Restraining Order - too restrained
JungleJorge - crazy fucking plan to trap Prom
Grush - Starsenses seems to be broken
Okay, having filtered ObviousOne, this is like literally his only "concrete" contribution the entire game. Nowhere else does he say who he thinks is suspicious or why if we're to believe this post:
On February 27 2013 10:27 ObviousOne wrote:
Hassy, if you consider everyone I've ever asked a question a target of mine you're going to have to explain THAT. I just want to learnify about some people.
He also said he wanted to kill Macho Man early in the game, but that was like early in the game and whatever.
So my impressions on his short list:
Prom - Duh. Of his short list this is the one read he's gone into detail on why he feels the way he does. Null
layabout - Could be emotionally charged, but the reasoning is bad. Null
Restraining Order - Lurker. Null
JJ - He summarizes his reasoning by just describing one thing JJ did. I don't get it. Scummy.
Grush - Again, no reasoning - just uses grush' tagline as his reasoning. Scummy.
What strikes me about this is that after two rereads BACK TO BACK, this is what he comes up with. A lurker list, and Prom.
There's a lot of questioning people in his filter - but none of that questioning really leads anywhere. When he shadowed me in Nom, I could literally see the gears working in his head when he messaged me. In this game I'm getting nothing like that.
He says he's bored with D1. Town are presumably about to lynch like almost certainly scum - I just wonder if he's so bored why he's not doing anything constructive with his time?
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Okay I'm on the record saying that this Milkman hate is not shared by me. He's clearly posting with a town agenda in mind and trying to find scum. I'm now going to filter anyone saying they're suspicious of him cause WTF there were like 2 or 3 in a row and he's like glowing in the dark to me.
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To the supporters of DrH (And any doubtful VE supporters, especially those who left me): You'll note that VE is currently leading in votes. Unless you consolidate away from DrH and onto me, VE who has been somewhat ambivalent in the past on the Prom lynch will be elected Mayor. I'll address the main criticisms of my candidacy here so that you can realize that I'm the best mayor after all.
1. Is BH really interested, will he in fact lynch Prom?
Now, I like VE as much as any other guy does. He's thoughtful and pushing the discussion in a good direction. IF you're not voting for him, it's not because you have a scumread on him-- it's because initially he wasn't committing to lynching Prom. At the moment I write this post, I believe that VE wants to lynch Prom. If he were elected right now, he'd drop the hammer on the man. But he's not consistently anti-Prom like DrH and I (though I remain open to new possible lynch candidates) who have not wavered in our support of a Prom lynch, even for a moment.
VE right now will lynch Prom. But what about VE in 6 hours? Or VE in 12 hours? If there's one thing we know about VE, it's that he's a strident and aggressive player as town, and changing who his target is, even if he doesn't want to do it right now, is exactly the kind of thing VE does. He probably believes himself when he affirms his willingness to lynch Prom at deadline-- but that's the now-VE, not the 12-hours-from-now VE. I trust present VE, but future VE loves shenannies. He loves them more than I do.
"But Blazinghand", you say, "you have done shenannies yourself!" And yes, these shennanies (such as in Mario Mini D1) have worked well. But examine my shennanies, and you see that in Mario I was pushing Hapa all day. Sometimes, I have games where I am suspicious of everyone, but sometimes I have games where I have a damn scumread and I push him all day, and I don't stop until he's 6 feet under. Yes, I've criticized people other than Prom. Yes, I like DrH and VE. But I'm the _only_ guy here who has the tunnel vision to pull this thing off, the crush Prom like the fly he is.
I will not waver. And that's more than can be said for the others, townie and talented they they are.
2. I'm not sure of Blazinghand's alignment. VE seems like a safer bet. Is it really townie for BH to be so abrasive? The other guys seem like they'll use the power better.
Look, you can look at Parrallel world, or Bureaucracy, or Idiot Cop Mafia, and it's SUPER clear what my scum meta is like. I'm an aggressive guy. I call them like I see them. I post a mixture of one-liners and text-walls and I MAKE SENSE. I make people uncomfortable. I push them out of their comfort zones. And I'll be damned if it doesn't WORK. Look, DrH is kinda a passive guy. He doesn't really want this. And VE? VE will often be all talky but he doesn't use his vote like a cudgel the way I do. Check out my play in Themed Game Mafia (link) where just on the strength of my vote I pushed down the scumteam (though was hit by a vengeful mechanic at the start of N1).
This is how I play. I'm in people's faces, and I don't apologize for it. Some guys, like Layabout, get butthurt (jk jk) but it's how I roll and how I haven't been mislynched as a townie in over a year. My scum play is asstastic (and yes I know saying that from myself isn't super convincing, but you get the idea) and EVERYONE knows when I'm scum. If you give DrH the double vote, sure, he'll be kinda useful, and VE might make some headway with it, but if you give me the double vote, I'll cut swathes through the scumteam like a spear of vinegar cutting through barrels of unspoiled wine.
I alone can bring this power to its full potential. Look at my play in Themed Game Mafia, now imagine that with a double vote.
Are you salivating now? Yes, yes you are. You want me, baby.
3. But BH / WF is a TOTAL MEANIE HEAD! He was _mean_ to me, and I want to elect someone who was all nice! Being mean is totally a scumtell!
No.
Don't buy this logic for a second. Maybe you're mad at me! Maybe you've been pressured by me, or felt I was part of a vast veteran conspiracy to lock you out. Maybe I called you dumb. But only scum fears the light, and I do not step down when I have something to say. Being mad at me is NOT a case against me.
Set those feelings aside.
Don't vote with your emotions. Vote with your mind. I alone will unerringly lynch Prom. I will use the doublevote aggressively as I always do. I am obviously town-- several veterans deduced this was me before I broke smurf because of how idionsyncratic my town play is.
You know I'm the right choice, more right than those two ever could be.
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tl;dr: i may be a dick but like i told that girl at the bar before i got a drink in the face, you totally want the dick.
vote wade fell
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On February 27 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 07:05 VayeshMoru wrote:On February 27 2013 07:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
We're both pretty obviously lynching Prom. I'm not sure what you're getting at. Thoughts on more than one you have. Thoughts plentiful the doctor does have. Whichever most fall in a parallel line shall be the course to the voting shine. Yeah okay. Well here's where I'm at. MilkSuckler, Toadesstern, PromethelaxClearly you've seen how Toad is trying to take credit for the Prom lynch. Milk did the same thing directly after WF's case. They have both been downright indignant about it. What do you make of that? For my part I take it as scummy. I'm town, and my thoughts when others agreed was "whew" not "That bastard is trying to take credit for what I DID!" The scrambling for acknowledgement of their contributions to the upcoming lynch reads as trying to soak up town cred to me.
question: Do you consider what you said about me a scumtrait considering you know me?
Because frankly you know I'm quite self centered and I don't mind not getting credit for stuff I'm doing but I do mind if other people get credit for it and I get insulted at at the same time. So I usually end up rubbing it in for said people to have some fun and to make them realize how stupid they are.
As mafia I'm way more careful with controling my own emotions and you know that. I'm way more looking at stuff like that while I just don't care for that kind of stuff as town because I assume everyone knows I'm town anyways (given the skype conversations with people outside the game it isn't a far fetched call at all).
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On February 27 2013 11:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Gotta love seeing the mafia panic as soon as I get any cred. I'm not even pushing my own election. If I'm pardoner i wont use the power. Noone is confirmed town unless you're scum and already know or they die and flip. If your suspicion is based on the fact that I'm not confirmed as town, then kill anyone.
Misrepresenting as hell to say all i did was pressure prom a little. I made the biggest case to get the wagon rolling and I nailed wos and vivax to the wall immediately when I got wary of their posts. Even if I'm wrong about prom, my aggression and focus will have the scum sweating.
Prom layabout jj geript testsubject vivax
Gg no re
If you don't trust me, don't vote for me. If you're suspicious of me have the balls to call me scum. If your goal is to discredit a player who is scumhunting aggressively then you're not helping, especially if you can't point out how my case is so flawed, or honestly represent my post history. Geript has admitted only that i make him nervous and i doubt the town feels the same way. Hmmm who might react that way then?
Prom dies today, everyone else gets pressure. I'll save my next case for when it matters because splitting the wagons now does no good.
If you're just coming in now to discredit active townies after being absent from all productive town discussion, kiss your scum ass goodbye and learn how to play next time.
you really need to add Grush to your list. Imo Grush is quite clearly not town this game. I'd probably even lynch him tomorrow.
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grush57 is one of the worst players i've ever seen and im in no state of mind to try to work out what the nuances are between his usual uselessness and his scum uselessness
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On February 27 2013 17:45 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 07:12 VisceraEyes wrote:On February 27 2013 07:05 VayeshMoru wrote:On February 27 2013 07:00 VisceraEyes wrote:
We're both pretty obviously lynching Prom. I'm not sure what you're getting at. Thoughts on more than one you have. Thoughts plentiful the doctor does have. Whichever most fall in a parallel line shall be the course to the voting shine. Yeah okay. Well here's where I'm at. MilkSuckler, Toadesstern, PromethelaxClearly you've seen how Toad is trying to take credit for the Prom lynch. Milk did the same thing directly after WF's case. They have both been downright indignant about it. What do you make of that? For my part I take it as scummy. I'm town, and my thoughts when others agreed was "whew" not "That bastard is trying to take credit for what I DID!" The scrambling for acknowledgement of their contributions to the upcoming lynch reads as trying to soak up town cred to me. question: Do you consider what you said about me a scumtrait considering you know me? Because frankly you know I'm quite self centered and I don't mind not getting credit for stuff I'm doing but I do mind if other people get credit for it and I get insulted at at the same time. So I usually end up rubbing it in for said people to have some fun and to make them realize how stupid they are. As mafia I'm way more careful with controling my own emotions and you know that. I'm way more looking at stuff like that while I just don't care for that kind of stuff as town because I assume everyone knows I'm town anyways (given the skype conversations with people outside the game it isn't a far fetched call at all).
I know that self-referencing your meta is about as useful as a dick-sucking machine with an off-switch.
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On February 27 2013 17:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
grush57 is one of the worst players i've ever seen and im in no state of mind to try to work out what the nuances are between his usual uselessness and his scum uselessness
he's more actively useless and more in your face when town. He usually tries to push some kind of bullshit screaming at people, yelling and kicking at the same time.
Pretty sure he's not town.
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On February 27 2013 17:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
grush57 is one of the worst players i've ever seen and im in no state of mind to try to work out what the nuances are between his usual uselessness and his scum uselessness
This would be a terrible sentence, but it's about grush57 so it's absolutely correct.
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On February 27 2013 17:58 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 17:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
grush57 is one of the worst players i've ever seen and im in no state of mind to try to work out what the nuances are between his usual uselessness and his scum uselessness he's more actively useless and more in your face when town. He usually tries to push some kind of bullshit screaming at people, yelling and kicking at the same time. Pretty sure he's not town.
oh god you learned his meta
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On February 27 2013 17:58 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 17:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
grush57 is one of the worst players i've ever seen and im in no state of mind to try to work out what the nuances are between his usual uselessness and his scum uselessness he's more actively useless and more in your face when town. He usually tries to push some kind of bullshit screaming at people, yelling and kicking at the same time. Pretty sure he's not town.
He's also usually a lynch candidate to spur what you're referencing and failing that there's no difference to any game he's ever played ever.
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Well, same reason I've never even attempted to analyze a player like Kenpachi. There's always one guy in a game that is familiar/good with meta reads (which I am not) and that's usually the only guy who can nail a grush or a kenpachi, I literally just skip his posts. I haven't read a single word grush has written in this game.
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On February 27 2013 17:59 Wade Fell wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 17:58 Toadesstern wrote:On February 27 2013 17:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
grush57 is one of the worst players i've ever seen and im in no state of mind to try to work out what the nuances are between his usual uselessness and his scum uselessness he's more actively useless and more in your face when town. He usually tries to push some kind of bullshit screaming at people, yelling and kicking at the same time. Pretty sure he's not town. oh god you learned his meta
when town he's a 10th of iamP, 10th of Yamato and that than combined with someone else like Vivax / Kenpachi
when mafia he's just the latter part.
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On February 27 2013 18:00 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 27 2013 17:58 Toadesstern wrote:On February 27 2013 17:54 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
grush57 is one of the worst players i've ever seen and im in no state of mind to try to work out what the nuances are between his usual uselessness and his scum uselessness he's more actively useless and more in your face when town. He usually tries to push some kind of bullshit screaming at people, yelling and kicking at the same time. Pretty sure he's not town. He's also usually a lynch candidate to spur what you're referencing and failing that there's no difference to any game he's ever played ever.
whatever. I most likely nailed mafia 2 hours into the game. I'm pretty sure I'm giving you the second one right now and you're mad because I'm voting Dr.H isntead of you. Get over yourself and stop being a whiny little girl.
See you around deadline. Not going to keep on dealing with you.
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You have no idea what you're talking about - you're clearly not even reading the thread because I said I PREFER if DocH is the mayor at this point. Why should I give a shit who you think is Mafia WHEN YOU'RE CLEARLY NOT EVEN READING THE FUCKING THREAD?
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And I'm leading in votes - that statement doesn't even make sense I think you're scum and I'm leading in votes, why the fuck would I care if you're voting for me?
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You know what this is bullshit. DocH you need to tell me right fucking now why Toadesstern isn't scum to you.
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On February 27 2013 18:06 VisceraEyes wrote:
You have no idea what you're talking about - you're clearly not even reading the thread because I said I PREFER if DocH is the mayor at this point. Why should I give a shit who you think is Mafia WHEN YOU'RE CLEARLY NOT EVEN READING THE FUCKING THREAD?
I am reading the thread. You kept on bitching about how I am discrediting you when I was the only guy in the game who VOTED you at that point in time saying you're a way better alternative than BH.
I ended up saying I feel more comfident in DrH not pulling some bullshit on us at the deadline because he's way more focused than you are and keep yelling at me that I'm discrediting you, which is an outright lie.
So yeah, I assumed you were mad at me for voting DrH because nothing you said around that time made any kind of sense. Yes now I'm discrediting you, just like you are discrediting me for the past 24 hours. Anyways, like I said I won't keep up dealing with you anymore, just wanted to get this out at least once to make sure there's not some kind of retard telling me I just ended up abandonning the thread...
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