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yamato77
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
It isnt enough to convince anyone but thrawn that acro is scum | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On March 01 2013 03:56 yamato77 wrote: If people don't want me to duel Acro, they need to respond to my case in full. You just don't need to instant duel him. Let's not jump the gun here. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
The Townies Thrawn: was Keir's primary and pretty much only real scumspect. In return wanted Keir dead. I just don't see that happening, regardless of how bad his D1 was. iamperfection: just look at his filter. It also helps that his reads at night made perfect sense to me. Also, Keir is red and one of Iamp's prime suspects. He wants Keir dead from the very start of the duel. Yamato: after his pants-on-heads case against me and his stupid arrogant threat to call me out, I read his filter REALLY hoping that he was scum. However, it's just not there. Yes, he's arrogant and tunnely, but he is scumhunting his ass off and calling things as he sees them. Snarfs: I honestly wasn't expecting to paint Snarfs green, because he had been flying completely under my radar. However, while his filter is short, it's to the point. Everything he says seems like he is actively reading the thread and figuring stuff out. Was on the right side of the Keirathi lynch from the beginning, so more townie points for that. Oatsmaster: while I am not as strongly on the Oats is town wagon as yesterday, I see nothing in his filter that points me to scum, and I seriously doubt that Oats would take stabs at Marv, if he were scum. In general, he is more annoying than I have seen him be as scum. The problem I have is with his slightly wishy-washy stance on Keirathi/Adam. He was very stand-offish and seemed to be gauging thread response before picking a side. + Show Spoiler + On February 26 2013 19:33 Oatsmaster wrote: Forget the bad decision by adam, Is Keirathi or Adam scum? On February 26 2013 20:59 Oatsmaster wrote: Ok, I agree that Adam's meta is different from his scum games, and that this was a really stupid, but exciting thing to do, but isnt exactly alignment indicative. I also agree that him pointing out the meta differences HIMSELF and calling himself townie under not much pressure is scummy. So Adam is null, leaning town cause I think that this was kinda too obvious to do it as scum, what was the point? Keirathi. I havent exactly been enthused about his activity so far, its not really alignment indicative though. The few posts he has made make a lot of sense, and at this point I dont think he is scum. He pushed thrawn and adam, his comment about adam claiming that he was so townie makes sense and is a thing that I dont really think anyone else picked up on. Yes I 180ed on Keirathi. Why you ask? Because after a little break, and rereading his filter without being irritated by his disappearance, I like what I see. On February 27 2013 13:41 Oatsmaster wrote: Im fine with killing both at this point, Adam wants to pick a fight WITH EVERYBODY and cause chaos. Keirathi has been doing absolutly NOTHING. And I want to kill him for being a bad townie. Yes I dont think he will flip scum, but come on, this kind of play absolutely kills town. For now I will give him the benefit of the doubt: he was an unsure townie hoping other people's reads would reinforce his own ideas. However, he does claim to want to kill two town reads. The sentiment is understandable at this point, though. Regardless, I am still leaning town on Oats. Zarepath: I said most of it yesterday. Despite being mostly on the wrong side of the lynch and having some bad-looking patches in his filter, he seems genuinely interested in figuring the game out. Even though he had a town read on both Adam and Keirathi, he didn't sit still with it and just vote whatever, but tried to figure it out. Hapa: I had already prepared the whole story about why his vote could be a bus. I was not convinced by the rest of Hapa's play at all. And then he went and made a list post with scum reads agreeing almost 100% with my own. If he is bussing his entire team, I am happy to let him. Hilariously bad play D1, but I can see no harm in lynching down our combined list of scummers. Adam: rogue 3rd party, but definitely not scum. Listen to him, use him, but do not trust him. The Scums Scum is hiding here, but more evidence is required to discern them from the bad-looking townies. In order of scummyness (least to most). Alderan: Very outspoken and wears his opinions on his sleave. Thinks Adam is probably town, but no opinion on Keirathi until wayyy later. He doesn't even mention Keir except in passing while discussing how townie Adam is. Is extremely disruptive. Could theoretically be someone like Mocsta, who gets in shouting matches, however for now, seems okay. If Dieno flips town, then this guy has been hard on a town lynch and stand-offish and unwilling on bussing his scumbuddy. Reconsider after Dieno's flip. Cora: the early impression I got that he was actively trying to figure stuff out is kinda gone. He falls in the group of people who are wishy-washy on the lynch vote. He wants to kill Adam, but thinks both are probably town. However, I really disliked his answer to why he was voting alongside his strongest scumread. If you have a town read on both and a scumread on your fellow voter, why not switch to the other townie (unless he thought Sylencia was bussing)? Now that that other guy has flipped red, it looks pretty bad. Sylencia: would have been surefire scum, but I can't shake the feeling that he's just lurky town caught on the wrong end of the lynch. He needs to be forced into the spotlight, and I think he'll show red. However, it is very hard to discern his playstyle this game from his play last game, where he was town. IMPORTANT: Sylencia and Cora are not scum together. There is no way they have set up this double bus, given Sylencia's activity level and the early death of Keirathi. Dieno: now that I am over my love for cute fluffy players and maps with squiggly lines, it is clear that Dieno has not contributed anything this game. In both CT and PU he had reads. They may not have made the greatest amount of sense, but they were clear reads. This game? Nah, most wishy washy stuff ever. Kill him tomorrow. Proposed duel: Sylencia vs. Dieno | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
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Acrofales
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On March 01 2013 03:56 yamato77 wrote: If people don't want me to duel Acro, they need to respond to my case in full. Mind stopping the tunnel for a second and looking at other people? You had a scumread on Hapa, what happened to it? What do you think of the lurkers and Cora? | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:17 Acrofales wrote: Mind stopping the tunnel for a second and looking at other people? You had a scumread on Hapa, what happened to it? What do you think of the lurkers and Cora? Just using basic logic here, if he is adamant in his belief that you're scum, you telling him to talk about someone else probably isn't going to be terribly effective. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:26 zarepath wrote: Maybe we should slow down on the night town reads | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
I have a proposal: I will duel Dieno. I prefer a Dieno-Sylencia duel, but given Yamato's position, I am very afraid of the duel between me and one of my stronger town reads. It would be mindnumbingly stupid and waste a day on what is almost guaranteed to be a mislynch. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:39 zarepath wrote: Before you go off and do that, I really want to see Sylencia and Dieno's thoughts about dueling each other. Surely one of them think the other is scummy, right? Sylencia is sleeping and if I understood Dieno right, he is also afk. If Yamato really intends to duel me at the start of the day, the only chance I can think of to not waste this day in a retarded derpfest is by being the fastest gun in the west. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:45 Alderan wrote: If Acro rush duels Dieno we kill him. Agreed? So you prefer a Yamato-Acro duel over an Acro-Dieno duel? | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
Consider: YOU are sure about Dieno, but others aren't as sure. I feel more sure about there being at least 1 scum among Syl/Dieno than I do about either of them being scum, and everyone forcing them to argue against each other provides FAR more information than YOU going against Dieno. If you quick-draw on Dieno, we lynch him and he flips bad townie, mafia gets another kill off and we're left wondering if Syl was scum or not and whether we should look into the double-lynchers or the Keir voters for the bus. If we pit Dieno and Syl, we likely get all day to wait before one of them finally duels each other (giving us plenty of time to react to the night kill and speculate and build cases, etc.), and then we get a pretty good idea about BOTH of their alignments in the duel. No offense, but you and Yamato are not very high on my priority list for who we need more information on. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18074 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:49 zarepath wrote: In this game, I consider being the fastest gun in the west to also be the stupidest gun in the west. Consider: YOU are sure about Dieno, but others aren't as sure. I feel more sure about there being at least 1 scum among Syl/Dieno than I do about either of them being scum, and everyone forcing them to argue against each other provides FAR more information than YOU going against Dieno. If you quick-draw on Dieno, we lynch him and he flips bad townie, mafia gets another kill off and we're left wondering if Syl was scum or not and whether we should look into the double-lynchers or the Keir voters for the bus. If we pit Dieno and Syl, we likely get all day to wait before one of them finally duels each other (giving us plenty of time to react to the night kill and speculate and build cases, etc.), and then we get a pretty good idea about BOTH of their alignments in the duel. No offense, but you and Yamato are not very high on my priority list for who we need more information on. Tell that to YAMATO, not to me. I AM NOT THE ONE YELLING ABOUT DUELING AT DAWN I am trying to come up with a less retarded solution for that scenario. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:02 Oatsmaster wrote: We did. It isnt enough to convince anyone but thrawn that acro is scum No, you didn't. You argued with stuff I already refuted in my case. | ||
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