EPTI want to see it. You scumhunt on them, and while you're doing that, I'll make my case for you being mafia.
Town can decide between you and another scummy looking person instead of just killing you.
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yamato77
11589 Posts
I want to see it. You scumhunt on them, and while you're doing that, I'll make my case for you being mafia. Town can decide between you and another scummy looking person instead of just killing you. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:50 Acrofales wrote: Tell that to YAMATO, not to me. I AM NOT THE ONE YELLING ABOUT DUELING AT DAWN I am trying to come up with a less retarded solution for that scenario. All I'm saying is do not be the one to duel at dawn. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:51 yamato77 wrote: Fine, duel someone Acro. I want to see it. You scumhunt on them, and while you're doing that, I'll make my case for you being mafia. Town can decide between you and another scummy looking person instead of just killing you. Who you think Dieno? Hapa? iamp? | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18218 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18218 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:50 yamato77 wrote: No, you didn't. You argued with stuff I already refuted in my case. No. You just yelled louder. You shouted down any arguments that don't fit in your picture. You're in a tunnel. I've been there. It's pointless. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:54 Acrofales wrote: Yamato: how about this plan. You don't duel me at dawn. You duel me at high noon (my time) [unparsable timestamp format] IF I haven't dueled someone before that time. That way you get your wish: me in a duel AND we have some time to think. I'm going to be drunk by then, in all serious likelihood. I may or may not duel you, depending on how I feel about what you've done between now and then. If you think Dieno is mafia, I want more detailed analysis from you on the subject. I played a part in lynching him in Parallel when he was fairly useless as town, and barely scumhunted at all. I see very little difference between his play that game and this game. As I said before, Sylencia is very similar. Useless as town, very sheepish, not proactive. There needs to be more proof than "they're not contributing" for me to go all goo-goo eyed at them. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
read from you on someone | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
I may or may not duel you, depending on how I feel about what you've done between now and then. 'I may or may not act stupidly, depending on whether you piss me off.' Uhuh yamato. Alderan is posting fucking useless posts which are basically ^^ Stop it. Its a scum tell. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On March 01 2013 05:03 Oatsmaster wrote: 'I may or may not act stupidly, depending on whether you piss me off.' Uhuh yamato. Alderan is posting fucking useless posts which are basically ^^ Stop it. Its a scum tell. Bored at work. Nothing new to analyze. What do you want me to do? | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Make a case on someone. Please. Unless you are scum. Then I couldnt care less. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
You're basically the parrot on his shoulder. | ||
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Alderan
United States463 Posts
On March 01 2013 05:06 Oatsmaster wrote: Go tell other people why you think I am scum. Make a case on someone. Please. Unless you are scum. Then I couldnt care less. I didn't say you were scum did I.... I've made my case on Dieno, thats who I'd like to lynch. I'm not going to post my cases on others when they are not as strong as that one. I don't see you providing any high level analysis, but I've just gotten used to it from you. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain18218 Posts
On March 01 2013 04:58 yamato77 wrote: I'm going to be drunk by then, in all serious likelihood. I may or may not duel you, depending on how I feel about what you've done between now and then. If you think Dieno is mafia, I want more detailed analysis from you on the subject. I played a part in lynching him in Parallel when he was fairly useless as town, and barely scumhunted at all. I see very little difference between his play that game and this game. As I said before, Sylencia is very similar. Useless as town, very sheepish, not proactive. There needs to be more proof than "they're not contributing" for me to go all goo-goo eyed at them. If you look at my list of reads, I completely agree with you on Sylencia. He's scum by elimination more than anything else. However, he has not been active enough to distinguish between his lurky town and lurky scum play. Regarding Dieno, I don't agree. I observed PU and remember having a town read on Dieno. However, looking back now I see that his play is not the same. This game, he is extremely wishy washy. Compare this game (first entry post): On February 25 2013 09:29 Dienosore wrote: Oh snap, early start! Hurray! I just caught up with the thread. A few things: - Snarf/Marv's plan to use all of our time to get a majority before dueling seems like the best and most logical path of action. No complaints there. - Yamato, easy on the trigger amigo. I can see some merit to what you are saying, though. It might be very beneficial for the town to have someone like you who is willing to duel in order to prove alignment, as long as you follow the general town consensus. Could help to keep everyone honest... ...On the other hand, you might be mafia... in which case having you as a baseline enforcer would only result in towny deaths. Until you get cleared somehow, I think we should stick with the plan to just take our time. - Corazon: I don't know you, therefore I don't not like you! <3 Not sure why marv is putting doubt on you already, but I generally trust him. Is there something about you I should know? 1. Agrees with policy. 2. Disagrees with policy by agreeing with Yamato... except Yamato might be scum and then it's bad. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN? 3. Distrusts Cora for essentially no reason except to sheep Marv. + Show Spoiler [comparison] + First serious post in PU: On December 12 2012 11:50 Dienosore wrote: ---- but then Why the flip-floppery Foolish? I told you already my heart couldn't handle any more of it  Boom. Nailed Foolishness. He was scum too. Follow-up: On December 13 2012 12:37 Dienosore wrote: That is one of the reasons, yes. I've also factored in Marv's meta read on him and how Fool handled it. Also, he hasn't really denied being scum, just sort of has been deflecting the issue by arguing with folks. Also, my maps show that Fool has absolutely no support from anyone on either world. In fact, he even has some negative vibes from Sandro and Yomato, both of whom I consider to be playing fairly towny at this point. Now that I've tilted my hand, it's your turn to explain your reason for voting for him. This is not wishy washy. Here is the first reads from CT: On November 21 2012 17:34 Dienosore wrote: In an effort to gain your trust so that I can become the first leader, I have two solid scum reads that I feel need to be shared. Djodref: Supports sandroba, though he (weakly) nominated himself. Wants Clarity and Lamp on his team. Has asked a few times to different people what their reads are. Maybe mining for info? Said "I don't think it would be fair for the scum team not being able to kill the party members" Also, put out a hit on a town marv and town Hapa for being dangerous to the mafia. I'd say 80% sure he is scum goodkarma: Seems to be in favor of Sandroba for pres, even though he nominated himself for it. wants sandroba and promethelax on his team. Put emphasis on finding townies, not scummies, which could mean he is scum. Asked questions that feel as if they come from mafia perspective (dealing with towny death and kill immunity). Attacks back at Keirathi after he explains that we dont know HOW the scum kills by saying "scum must be able to remove it somehow" Uses distancing language "town" when talking about possible medics. I'm 70% sure he is scum. Seems to be town hunting. ![[image loading]](http://i49.tinypic.com/20zd73t.png) Not wishy washy. Wrong. But nobody else shared these opinions AT ALL at the time. Sticking his neck out in a non-wishy-washy way. Now that is establishing that Dieno's town play is not wishy washy, lets check out more of his play here: On February 25 2013 13:11 Dienosore wrote: Good to hear that you are willing to disarm, even if ever so slightly. Unfortunately, I am not the best scum hunter. I rely on my maps a lot, as you probably know, which usually require days of information and copious cross referencing before the incriminating connections really stand out. I'll try to whip up something before I go to bed tonight, though. Woah there, buddy. I don't want to risk my neck. If you no longer have a scumread on me, I will no longer have a scumread on you! This post has been discussed to death: On February 27 2013 11:33 Dienosore wrote: Late day at the office. Got back about an hour ago and caught up on the thread. I promised an investigation into the duelers, so here it is. Adam4167 + Show Spoiler + Timeline: - immediately busts into the thread with a vigilante disposition and challenges me to a duel. - begins to argue with marv - cuts me down - prods Corazon a few times, calls him uninteresting, then drops him - tells Zarepath he's given out reads on several players, when actually he has done very little other than accuse me of scum and clear Corazon. - clears Oats - supports Thrawn/Keir duel. - threatens Keir with a duel - clears Thrawn - defends his stance a bit more, then snaps a duel on Keir - general posturing, says his mafia meta is lurky and passive, calls Yamato delusional - reinforces that his play isnt mafia motivated a few times. - outright claims town Summary: I have to admit that I am a bit biased due to our previous interactions, but I can't shake the feeling that this guy is scum. He seems to be trying to cause as much chaos as possible, then once all the shit has been slung, reinforces over and over again that he is town. He also seems to be exclusively picking on the Keirathi + Show Spoiler + Timeline: - disagrees with Thrawn's stance to just 'let things happen as they will' - says Thrawn is currently his biggest scumread - puts suspicion on Adam due to his rogue bravado - tries to advance our dueling policy - says he is willing to duel Thrawn - argues a bit more with Adam about dueling policy - gets called out by Adam - general defending Summary: As I said earlier, I was completely surprised by Adam snapping on Keir. I've gone through Keir's filter a few times since the duel was called, but I still can't find anything that sticks out as obviously scum motivated. Other than a bit of back and forth banter mostly discussing dueling policy, he has kept a relatively low profile. The only real aggression shown has been directed towards a scummy looking Thrawn. It's true his activity has been a little slow, but not so much that I'd see any reason to raise any alarms. Overall, I'd say he has been playing it overly safe, if anything. So with that, I feel compelled to cast my vote now. Considering how the game started, I don't think it's going to surprise anyone. ##Vote: Adam4167 It is incredibly careful. Nothing like the happy "I will call out the biggest veteran in the game in my first real post" from PU, or the happy carefree Dieno from CT. Wishy-washy + careful = scum. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
You may be right on Dieno I reread his igrok filter from Parallel, and it seems he is far from useless there. We shall see. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Have to make a decision quick. To duel Acro, or not to duel Acro? WIFOM that shot. | ||
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
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gonzaw
Uruguay4911 Posts
Day 2 ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/WfktX6d.jpg) iamperfection, the Vanilla Townie has bitten the dust. + Show Spoiler [Role PM] + As a Vanilla Townie, you have no powers except for your voice, your ability to duel, and your vote. You win with the town. You have 24 hours to initiate a duel. If no duels are called by that time the day will end in a no-lynch. | ||
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Oatsmaster
United States16628 Posts
Anyway. Dont fucking duel now. | ||
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