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Sevryn
698 Posts
ahh no that was too the second question. if we assume that there are three scum I would probably say you cora are at the top of my list which would go 1. cora 2. warbaby 3.mocsta/sno 4.zera 5.TS who is confirmed town? that actually makes me wonder is there a scenario where TS isnt confirmed townie? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 16 2013 14:15 TestSubject893 wrote: So if this isn't a good explanation for the geript kill, what is? I'm feeling some confirmation bias from you here. You think Mocsta is town, so you are quick to write off evidence that might suggest the opposite. Why do you think I proposed the question to everyone if I knew the answer? I really don't. His biggest read was me. If I had killed him because he was on the right track, why would I be bringing attention to it? You need to step up your play. Being confirmed town doesn't mean you can sit here and tunnel. Whereas I put out a question to facilitate some discussion, you are just trying to point everything back to me. I never said I thought Mocsta was town, I said that I could not find any huge differences between his town and his scum play, and that I was trying to avoid him. You are trying to put us together, when in fact besides our votes for Glurio, most of my actions have been either from my behalf of the behalf of someone other than Mocsta. I propose a question to you: Who is trying harder to associate themselves with the other, me or Mocsta? | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
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Sylencia
Australia1057 Posts
On February 16 2013 13:59 Sevryn wrote: talking about it at all isnt really something thats good for down it can only help scum on Day 1 How is reasoning someone is potentially scum good for scum? On February 16 2013 14:16 Sevryn wrote: ahh no that was too the second question. if we assume that there are three scum I would probably say you cora are at the top of my list which would go 1. cora 2. warbaby 3.mocsta/sno 4.zera 5.TS who is confirmed town? that actually makes me wonder is there a scenario where TS isnt confirmed townie? If OO was scum, possibly could make a case where TS isn't confirmed, but it'd be the greatest shot in the dark if TS guessed OO did something, seeing as how he was SK and so scum have no info as to who that is. | ||
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Sevryn
698 Posts
On February 16 2013 15:03 Sylencia wrote: How is reasoning someone is potentially scum good for scum? If OO was scum, possibly could make a case where TS isn't confirmed, but it'd be the greatest shot in the dark if TS guessed OO did something, seeing as how he was SK and so scum have no info as to who that is. talking about blues is good for scum not who is scum | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 16 2013 15:05 Sevryn wrote: talking about blues is good for scum not who is scum I'm pretty sure making one post comparing the list of blues to justify WB's weird actions is not a detriment to town. He made it in one post and then moved on. If he had dwelled on the fact, sure. The way Syl handled the blue list was alright in my eyes. | ||
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Sn0_Man
Tebellong44238 Posts
My 2 cents. I'll be filter diving tomorrow, too lazy today. Actually tomorrow is weekend so I may be too lazy then as well. Sometime before next lynch is the goal  So much crap being tossed around in this thread, at this point I think that EVERYBODY should seriously consider just taking the time to read a filter or 2 seriously. If 2 people call each other scummy, well that doesn't make progress (he said/she said doesn't get us anywhere). The night actions tonight will hopefully be revealing. | ||
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zarepath
United States1626 Posts
I'll be spending what time I have today doing another filter dive and come out by the end of the night with my reads. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
On February 16 2013 15:02 cDgCorazon wrote: Why do you think I proposed the question to everyone if I knew the answer? I really don't. His biggest read was me. If I had killed him because he was on the right track, why would I be bringing attention to it? I don't expect you to have an answer, but I expect you to be willing to accept one proposed by others. As for the latter question here, I can WIFOM right back at you and say, you'd do it just so you could use it now as town cred. As you can see, the fact that you brought it up is an entirely null point, as it could be an honest play or a leveling move and there's no way to know. You need to step up your play. Being confirmed town doesn't mean you can sit here and tunnel. Whereas I put out a question to facilitate some discussion, you are just trying to point everything back to me. I don't know what you mean by step up my play. Are you accusing me of not trying? The majority of my experience playing mafia is in real life where using cues in context and wording of what people say has treated me very well. Its not the same way most people play online, sure, but I its the way I think I can help town most. Do you think I'm just mailing it in because I'm confirmed town or what? This isn't the first time you've brought this up. I never said I thought Mocsta was town, I said that I could not find any huge differences between his town and his scum play, and that I was trying to avoid him. You are trying to put us together, when in fact besides our votes for Glurio, most of my actions have been either from my behalf of the behalf of someone other than Mocsta. The reason I posted that actually was to point out how silly it is to call confirmation bias on people's arguments so often. It seriously applies to half the things people say. You throwing it around willy-nilly is in my eyes detrimental to the town. I propose a question to you: Who is trying harder to associate themselves with the other, me or Mocsta? I don't have an answer to this question and frankly I don't care given the information or lack there of that we have right now. I don't think there's anything to be gained from a discussion of it right now either. | ||
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TestSubject893
United States774 Posts
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
Anyway, I'll do my best to review the thread and post reads before N2 is out. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 17 2013 06:45 warbaby wrote: I agree with testsubject and zarepath. I don't have a lot to contribute right now. Mandalor is lurking hardest at this point, hopefully he'll pop in soon. Anyway, I'll do my best to review the thread and post reads before N2 is out. I would also like to say that Sevryn said I was the top third scum, but just started lurking again when I asked him to provide some new information against me. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
Here sevryn says he thinks cora and I are the scummiest. This doesn't make sense IMO, because it means that means cora would have been bussing me hardcore from day 1. Sevryn says glurio was a lurker. IMO Glurio was not lurking D1 before he was lynched, not nearly as much as mandalor, sevryn, and sylencia. Zero effort post. Zero effort post. Nonsense post. The criteria for replacement is pretty straightforward. If you post but fail to vote, you may just be warned. But if you fail to post and vote you will be replaced. Says he's going to make a good post. The biggest post he's made so far is about another lurker (mandalor). Jeez. Zero effort post Claims he made a great case on glurio. Here is the case (oh and this effort-filled post). yay for making great posts Conclude whatever you want. I'll do sylencia and mandalor next. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
Seems to put in a bit of effort here. Explains why he's lurking, makes a good point about nullifying pressure votes by announcing they are pressure votes. Goes on for a few posts about me saying I'm town. Not sure why but at least he posted posts. Says he's tunneled me and then tunnels me more. ok.jpg Makes a vote on me after clearly putting some effort into analyzing my play. Sevryn did not do this when he voted for glurio IMO. Speculation may not be the greatest contribution but again, posting posts with lots of words is pretty cool! Claims to be roleblocked. I'm leaning towards "not fake" on this claim. Puts a little effort into this post. Maybe didn't put so much effort into this one. IMO sylencia is less scummy than sevryn. While sevryn's filter is now longer, it's full of a bunch of nonsense and very low effort posts. That said, sylencia is still really failing to contribute to hunting scum. I'm getting tired, I'm gonna take a break and then do Mandalor. Unless these posts are just spamming up the thread, in which case let me know and I'll stop. | ||
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Mocsta
Australia9388 Posts
I am not sure why you have the confidence to make these types of posts; before the final hour deadline to be honest. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
On February 17 2013 08:30 Mocsta wrote: *IF you were town* I am not sure why you have the confidence to make these types of posts; before the final hour deadline to be honest. I am perfectly happy working with hypotheticals that involve my own alignment. I don't think this is scummy in the least. I did the same thing as town in 36. | ||
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Corazon
United States3230 Posts
On February 11 2013 14:46 cDgCorazon wrote: 2. Continuing to play the victim from the mislynch in NMM 36. | ||
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warbaby
United States510 Posts
I'm not playing the victim, I'm pointing to the fact that I'm always happy to work with hypothetical scenarios that involve my own alignment, and consistently so. | ||
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Spain18186 Posts
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