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On February 16 2013 08:55 cDgCorazon wrote:Show nested quote +On February 16 2013 08:39 TestSubject893 wrote:On February 16 2013 08:20 cDgCorazon wrote:
TS you need to tell me what you want me to answer from my reasoning behind voting Glurio. You're not giving me any room to defend myself. The reason I'm sounding like a broken record is because you won't give me any room to defend myself. Do you want me to keep requoting my justification post? I don't think so. Ask me specific questions about my vote. Saying you don't like it and then not asking me further questions is a scummy case.
I did not say anything about you being "untrustworthy", I said your case on me did not have any merit because of the association crap.
I don't understand your logic behind the difference between Warbaby and I is that I act calm under pressure and WB doesn't. Why would a town not act calm under pressure if they have nothing to hide? You have some backwards logic here.
Being all nervous under pressure= You have something to hide
Not being nervous under pressure= You either don't have something to hide or you are really good at keeping calm
It's a null point that invites a whole bunch of WIFOM.How many times do I have to say it? I don't care what your say your reasoning was, your actions were suspicious to me. There's nothing really to discuss. I have no questions; your actions spoke for themselves. Mocsta asked why I treated you and WB with different standards. The answer is that you two play differently. I was just answering his question. Why is it "damned if you do, damned if you don't"? That's the same stuff I did that took all of the momentum out of the WB case...
That's just how I see the facts. Its not like we're about to kill you. Being on the list of candidates D3 isn't going hurt you if you really are town.
At this point I think we've both had enough of this. Let's stop butting heads and drop it for now.
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By the way, ObviousOne, you've been a really good sport and a lot of fun this last day. It really is too bad we have to kill you today.
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<3 all is fair in love, war, and Mafia
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Oh my only question. Why did you choose me N1?
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The way you worded some of your post struck me as suspicious, but you didn't get a lot of scrutiny from the town making you a good person to carry out a kill if you were in fact mafia.
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Ding Dong time is up for OO.
GGs, thanks for playing so... amicably 
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"Hey guys", said Dr. Honeydew, "I have an idea!"
Everybody just sort of looked at him. With a PhD he commanded some respect, despite being completely insane. Beaker, in anticipation of the doc's idea hid behind a wardrobe. "Harry's dead. Why don't we just call it a day and go home? Too many people died already"
That idea actually made sense! So they opened the door and started out onto the street. All was well and they got their hopes up, but soon the muppets found that the wide world was not really what they were expecting... and people on the street gave them funny looks. When Thog walked out, panic broke out. Apparently normal people were not used to 10-foot tall blue monsters. Soon a crowd had gathered, with pitchforks.
The Muppets fled back inside and decided that humans were just really really strange. Nobody even noticed that Rizzo was missing.
ObviousOne as Rizzo the Rat was mobbed by a crowd of humans.
+ Show Spoiler [role pm] +You are Rizzo the Rat. Nobody on the show likes you much. Well, now this happened, they can all get shafted, you’re out for yourself. You win when you’re the last person alive, or nothing can stop this from happening. Once per night you may shoot someone. In addition, on D1, you may choose between two powers: one-shot investigation immunity or one-shot bulletproof. The former makes you immune to watchers/trackers until you are watched and/or tracked on a night. The latter allows you to survive one shot. If you don’t choose by the end of D1, the host will assign your power randomly. You are notified if your power is used.
It is now night! Please send your night actions to BOTH Dandel Ion and myself. You have 23 hours, until [unparsable timestamp format] tomorrow to do so.
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Alright now that we know OO is SK, I want to ask the town a question:
"Why did scum kill Geript?"
This has been puzzling me for the past 24 hours. Anyone else want to have a crack at it?
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Hmmm, that's a good question Corazon. I don't have an answer, and unfortunately for us this is the stereotypical scenario when we find ourselves stuck with WIFOM logic. Maybe someone can come up with something useful though.
And while we're addressing the town at large, I want to take this chance to remind the Jailkeeper that you can shield me from 1 KP tonight if you're out there~
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This was basically what I found.
Looking at the "General Guide to Mafia", it says that scum kills should take this priority.
1. Kill someone who is on the right track.
My bet is that Geript's biggest scumread was me. Of course I'm not scum, so he wasn't on the right track.
2. Kill someone who is a good scum hunter.
There are a many better scum hunters than Geript. For example, Mocsta, Sn0, Zare...
3. Go for a blue snipe.
Why didn't they just go after WB because he soft-claimed blue? If he did flip blue they could have used that information to get me lynched as well. No one would've said anything if I had flipped town after WB was lynched because I was tunneling WB so hard I had to be scum.
4. Kill off confirmed town.
Geript was not confirmed town.
Am I missing something here guys?
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Let me guess, you think they're just trying to set you up? 
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On February 16 2013 10:13 TestSubject893 wrote:Let me guess, you think they're just trying to set you up?
A better set-up would've been to kill WB and basically say I did it (or that I was tunneling a townie (if he had flipped town)).
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I think its most likely that they had a blue read on him and were just wrong.
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Geript voted for Mocsta and WoS. Perhaps the night shot on geript was defensive?
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Could be WB, but its all pretty WIFOM.
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Oh, he also voted for me, but I'm not sure if it was a joke since it was right at the start of the game.
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For reference, here's geript's case on Mocsta. Would this be enough to elicit a defensive kill?
Geript has a point. While geript's early vote on me was odd, but why did Mocsta immediately jump on board? His other points about Mocsta are basically part of what I was talking about last night. Mocsta was being really pushy and manipulative D1, which I extend to a meta case based on his scum play in XXXV.
Anyway, I'm not going to go on another Mocsta witch hunt, it would be tunneling. I just want to bring highlight this now that we have info from the OO flip.
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What's your opinion on this, Corazon?
On February 16 2013 10:29 warbaby wrote:For reference, here's geript's case on Mocsta. Would this be enough to elicit a defensive kill? Geript has a point. While geript's early vote on me was odd, but why did Mocsta immediately jump on board? His other points about Mocsta are basically part of what I was talking about last night. Mocsta was being really pushy and manipulative D1, which I extend to a meta case based on his scum play in XXXV. Anyway, I'm not going to go on another Mocsta witch hunt, it would be tunneling. I just want to bring highlight this now that we have info from the OO flip.
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