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i have a laser tag tournament tonight (in 78 minutes, so i gotta leave for it soon) but i want to announce my awesome plan. i call it the "make annul, a fucking incredible all-star, ultimate commander of killing scum" plan. or, for short, the MAFIA SUCKS plan. basically, you elect me mayor, and i kill scum for you. do it for PATRIOTISM. also, because i have run for mayor every single time for like the past 10 games and have never won the election =( | ||
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On January 20 2013 19:44 Vivax wrote: Three people so far have expressed concerns about my activity: gonzaw, Axle and JieXian. {...} Who would be happy with a JieXian lynch? I would be! blatant OMGUS? FOS vivax | ||
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On January 20 2013 23:03 Oatsmaster wrote: Nice First post annul. Why/Why not will you be running for mayor? i suggest you read the thread more closely | ||
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On January 21 2013 05:38 Toadesstern wrote: Annul mind telling us some of your thoughts? You're one of the preferred guys to vote for me but you're not really giving me anything to go with... blatant OMGUS? FOS vivax[/QUOTE]not funny, but still useless post considering it's you. Other than that there's only your first post of the game to go by. [/QUOTE] well, as i said, i went to a laser tag tournament last night and then i went right to sleep. i have had maybe 90 minutes looking at this thread since the game started. however, pointing out bad play like vivax's line there is hardly "useless" no matter who says it. | ||
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On January 21 2013 11:11 yamato77 wrote: Does anyone feel compelled to respond to me at all when I ask why people think Vivax is town? probably cuz they are his red teammates | ||
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then, yamato calls him out (like i did), and even more recently, vivax now wants to lynch yamato. does this guy do anything other than OMGUSing? | ||
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he is slightly more on the red side of the spectrum for me right now. he accounts for like 12% of the game's posts right now, and he has put a lot of information on the table. if i am right and toad is red, it is certain that he has linked himself to other reds in the game based on his day 1 play. i would not be upset with a vivax day 1 kill, because i think he is red, and 1. it kills a red d1, and 2. it keeps toad on the table and if his play continues to reveal him as being red, then we get 2 days of him digging holes for his team instead of 1 day. | ||
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On January 21 2013 12:48 Djodref wrote: @ annul Do you really think Vivax or Toad could get lynched today ? I wouldn't lynch the most vocal players on D1, so I'm against it, but do you think you can convince enough people to lynch them ? i only really need to convince one person. perhaps whoever does win the election (protip: VOTE FOR ME!) will be swayed by my commentary. that's all i can hope for. | ||
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On January 15 2013 06:56 BloodyC0bbler wrote: This is a semi-open setup. Roles will be disclosed, but numbers will remain hidden. Read this section carefully, as it may be subject to change. does this mean that there will be at least one of every role, or is "zero" a possible "number that will remain hidden?" | ||
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On January 21 2013 13:38 Toadesstern wrote: Do you honestly think Vivax would be send out by his (supposedly) mafia team for a candacy as mayor? Do you honestly think Vivax would be so carefree as mafia to candidate for mayor and not post for the next *idk* bunch of hours? Don't you think Vivax would have been way to scared to candidate for mayor as mafia? Especially given his recent game as mafia that he, against all odds still won due to massive town modkills. Do you honestly think Vivax would be dropping a vote like that if he has multiple people in irc / QT / whatever to ask on who to vote? With that "reasoning" he provided? Sure it's bullshit, it's one of the most retarded posts I've seen in this game so far but do you really think he'd do that as mafia? | ||
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On January 21 2013 14:10 Toadesstern wrote: I don't know what that picture means. Would be nice to know wether that "wifom?" was directed at me, directed at annul or just an explanation of the picture because I have no idea what it is. yes, i am calling your statement wifom. that picture is from the movie "the princess bride;" specifically, the scene where the phrase "wine in front of me" comes from. youtube it. | ||
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On January 21 2013 14:11 AxleGreaser wrote: Anul, I am not well versed in meta of many players but... While alignments change from game to game is it actually plausible to you that: Vivax is: "really unskilled noob at mafia. " and that is the explanation for the posting that i have seen (although i am not sure it the same stuff you are reacting too as you did not say what that was it was left to my imagination...?) I am not sure i believe: that you think that a mafia player doing what Vivax has done is: not pro-town right now in any capacity It (several things I saw and commented on) did generate noise, when scum hunting activity was low. Indeed Oats seems to have misstepped as town in many eyes(inc mine) by interfering with it could you please clarify what you think was "either bright red or a really, really unskilled noob at mafia." also I dont understand how you cannot have read on Vivax's mafia skill level that would let you... for yourself distinguish those. it feels like an invitation for me to fall into a false confirmation bias from you presenting a knowingly false dichotomy. I could always be wrong about your skill level though. i have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, except for this part: "could you please clarify what you think was "either bright red or a really, really unskilled noob at mafia."" and for the answer to that part, you should read the post i make directly above my conclusion post. | ||
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On January 21 2013 14:46 Toadesstern wrote: A clever man once told me townies end up saying : "I don't think that's a reasonable assumption at all" Mafias usually say: "That's totally wifom! (although it makes sense it's not confirmed!)" and it's not comming down to him being too stupid to be mafia like yamato said (although I've got to admit that's part of it) but rather his carefree posting and him not being scared at all, like gonzaw mentioned as well. a clever man once told me "do not use wifom arguments in mafia games" but alas i am not talking about people "being too stupid" or whatever, i am referring specifically to your comments saying basically "do you really think a mafia would do something like that?" which is literally textbook wifom | ||
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On January 21 2013 15:42 AxleGreaser wrote: Anul considering Vivaxs meta do you believe it is a truthful possibility that Vivax is "really unskilled noob at mafia." if that not the case why do you present it as an emotionally inflammatory alternative. Your other option is "vivax is either bright red" Is this is a false dichotomy, are they really in your eyes the only two options? You also say "not pro-town right now in any capacity" This Presume goes with "really unskilled noob at mafia." as you appear to be saying the only way for player to be so not pro-town is to be a really unskilled noob. If that is not false dichotomy, would you please explain how you regard so many players who flipped town in LVIII who were not "really unskilled noob at mafia." to appear "not pro-town right now in any capacity" in hindsight. i have no idea what his meta is. i do not place stock in "metas" unlike most people here. whether someone is an unskilled noob has nothing to do with someone's "meta" per se. as to your direct question, "do you believe it is a truthful possibility that Vivax is "really unskilled noob at mafia,"" the answer is obviously "yes" or i would not have said it. you ask me "Is this is a false dichotomy, are they really in your eyes the only two options?" and to this i say "these are my reads." i have made incorrect reads in the past, sure. so, there are really three options: 1. bright red; 2. he's a mega noob; 3. my reads are wrong today. i tend not to play this game assuming #3, though. "as you appear to be saying the only way for player to be so not pro-town is to be a really unskilled noob." -- no, you can be "not-pro-town" by being a mafia, too. hence why i phrased it this way: mafia or meganoob. i did not play in nor read 58 and even if i did, i do not place ANY value on metas whatsoever. i understand i am in the minority with this. | ||
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On January 21 2013 15:52 debears wrote: However, I think a Toad red flip would actually make vivax green why is this? | ||
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On January 21 2013 16:00 Toadesstern wrote: I think he is town and he's decent. Short enough? On January 20 2013 15:06 Toadesstern wrote: Sandro >>>>>>Annul/gonzaw/prplhz/chez/Toad >>>>>>>>> everyone else oh i see, so you think the declared candidates in that list (me, gonzaw, chez) are not town? | ||
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On January 22 2013 00:16 Vivax wrote: That's cause they suck and everyone knows it . if they are so bad, then attack them. that's what you do when people make shit arguments. that's what i did to yours, after all. but it seems like the rest of the game are afraid to put their nuts on the line. | ||
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On January 22 2013 00:45 Vivax wrote: Annul. I have questions. You crave for attention, I will fulfil your desires. [list] [*] You mention that I attack people out of OMGUS. Why don't you consider the counter-examples in your reasoning? I didn't attack everyone for suspecting me. You should know this best since you were one of them. [*] You think my cases are bad and that I'm scum. That implies two things: You have a town read on JX, and you have a town read on yamato. Is this correct? [*] You didn't push yamato as mayor candidate when he announced it even though I'm your top scumread and you probably think he's town. You don't express a preference for mayor candidates at all, so tell me: Why so disinterested in who gets the spot? Who are your favourite candidates? [*] I am just one possible scum out of five. Did you form any scumreads outside of me? first, i do not "crave for attention" nor did i request people ask me questions. i wanted my specific arguments addressed; of which, very, very few people have done so, and of those who have, fewer have done so satisfactorily. but, i am not one to shy away from direct questions, so here we go: 1. "yes, i OMGUSed someone, but then when people FOSed me for OMGUSing that one person, i did not subsequently OMGUS them for FOSing me... therefore, my original OMGUS is not so bad!" <--- if i need to explain why this is a bad line, i dont know what to tell you 2. not correct. i have an anti-town read on you. i have seen the day 1 bus used before, so i am NOT saying one way or the other about JX or yamato right now. 3. i did not push for yamato because i am running and i want to be mayor. also, i did not say i thought "yamato is probably town" so please do not put words in my mouth. 4. i am not disinterested in the spot nor have i been all game; i have been trying to get people to vote for me. my favorite candidate is myself. 5. i have ideas, but none that are worth expounding upon right now, for i am less sure of them than i am of you. | ||
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any time you post, just put a word cap on it. literally any time you decide to post, please include a tl;dr of every main idea you are writing about. every time you post you come in with this explosion of who the fuck knows what and i am not in the mood to sift through the crazy just to see if there is anything worthwhile. it is perfectly possible to be succinct and communicate multiple ideas in different words. | ||
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On January 22 2013 14:42 yamato77 wrote: I think Annul, especially, deserves a hard inspection tomorrow as his encouragement of my suspicions on Vivax and Toad could certainly be seen as fanning the flames, and he never really substantiated his read on Vivax in particular despite insisting that he be lynched. you realize i attacked vivax first right lol in fact i have your filter up and the first vivax attack you make is like 12 hours after i make mine. if anything, you deserve inspection for blatant lies to the game | ||
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1. why? 2. what made you stop thinking its vivax? | ||
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also, mafias get "some number" of masons in addition to any other roles they have. his mason post means absolutely nothing. also, we have absolutely no way to confirm that those are real logs, or that they haven't been doctored in any way, etc. its funny cuz toad uses his mason as "town cred" and he is sheriff which cannot be DT'd... and mafia can mason day 1 all the same... | ||
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On January 23 2013 06:13 austinmcc wrote: Do you believe scumtoad would start swinging more votes towards him by half-claiming mason like this:When the logic is kind of crappy given that there are mafia masons? Serious question. I don't actually have a great handle on what his reputation is, exactly, as scum. its wifom to decide "what scum___ would do" and besides, i do not use metagame analyses whatsoever in my reads. however, if i, personally, were a mafia mason, i would love to be sheriff, because this is a massive hit to the town if so. however, if i were mafia at all, i would have an infinitely better play. | ||
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On January 23 2013 06:31 yamato77 wrote: Oh, so I'm mafia? I want to hear this one. Please, go on. TYL there is a difference between attacking someone and flat-out calling them red. but yes, i AM attacking you. and you have already "heard this one" -- read my posts. it's pretty simple to do. | ||
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On January 23 2013 06:34 yamato77 wrote: Calls something WIFOM. Posts more WIFOM with a cherry on top. you have serious reading comprehension problems "what scum___ would do" vs "what I, PERSONALLY, would do" are not the same thing | ||
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you have serious reading comprehension problems "what scum___ would do" vs "what I, PERSONALLY, would do" are not the same thing | ||
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On January 23 2013 06:36 yamato77 wrote: bullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshit bullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshitbullshit On January 23 2013 05:58 annul wrote: you realize i attacked vivax first right lol in fact i have your filter up and the first vivax attack you make is like 12 hours after i make mine. if anything, you deserve inspection for blatant lies to the game On January 23 2013 06:00 annul wrote: i find it interesting though because i am still on vivax, and you seemed to be pretty harshly on him (in fact, blatantly calling him scum... not "i suspect" or "i have reads" but you were SURE of it) and now you want to go after the one who called him out first before you? 1. why? 2. what made you stop thinking its vivax? | ||
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On January 23 2013 06:36 DearestSnot wrote: what's the difference, that it's you vs someone else? LOL nice double standard asshat you will be person #2 i tell the mod to officially warn. next? | ||
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On January 23 2013 06:39 yamato77 wrote: If you even bothered to read the game you would know why I stopped tunneling Vivax, and also exactly why what I think you're doing is mafia motivated. Also, in that post of mine you quoted, I did not say I had suspicions of him first, simply that what you were doing was fanning the flames of my suspicions, which is still true based on the timing of your posts, regardless of whether you had those suspicions or not. how can i possibly be fanning the flames of YOUR suspicions? the phrasing of that is off. more like "you were fanning the flames of MY suspicions, but stopped for some reason." | ||
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On January 23 2013 06:45 yamato77 wrote: So you want me to believe you weren't talking about Toad AT ALL with that line there? I don't buy it. i am saying if i were a mafia mason i would love to be sheriff. that is what i said... you can tell because, gasp, that is what is written there. | ||
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On January 23 2013 06:47 yamato77 wrote: TIMING IS EVERYTHING. Your "suspicions" of Vivax were never substantiated beyond his "anti-town" play and his "OMGUS" of me. You came in when I was completely tunneled on Toad/Vivax and sided with me for weak reasons. i FOSed him 12 hours before you ever attacked him. how anyone can say with a straight face that i "came in when you were tunneled" is beyond me. | ||
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AFK until the day post. posting at night is almost never pro town anyway. | ||
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when the time comes, i may move that vote. | ||
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On January 23 2013 11:18 FiveTouch wrote: You're not going to explain yourself, are you? eventually. not now, though. | ||
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in over half of my games on TL, i have been the absolute tunnel on day 2. this happens when i go all in day 1, when i am moderately active day 1, and now apparently its the case even when i say almost nothing day 1. the smart play, then, is to lay down and "accept defeat" and force the players to actually do other shit than keep on attacking me. if i defend, it wastes time by giving people incentive to keep pushing me. so, i will not defend. in fact, i will not say much at all. if i feel like i can save myself when the time is running out, then i will. otherwise, i am not going to get worked up over it when the end result is ANOTHER day 2 lynch anyway. | ||
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On January 23 2013 12:23 FiveTouch wrote: Apart from the read on him, gonzaw as mafia would fill the missing hole of a serious mafia mayoral candidate on Day 1. (or toad. or even you.) | ||
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On January 23 2013 14:41 Oatsmaster wrote: Annul, I thought you didnt want to waste the 48 hours, so where is your contribution? i am not preventing the town from finding reds. have at it. when i have something to say, i will say it. | ||
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this = OMG SCUMSLIP OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG like are you serious | ||
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On January 23 2013 19:45 Vivax wrote: Since you didn't mention that you considered the possibility that the third kill was from a town vigi, don't even think about pulling that card now. o rly On January 23 2013 10:58 annul wrote: btw mafia has 2 KP, so the third death is either town vig/jack or mafia jack using their shoot power. said like 45 minutes before the post you are attacking me over: On January 23 2013 11:36 annul wrote: or, i should say, there is either 0 or 1 mafia jacks. there is not 2. | ||
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On January 23 2013 20:45 Toadesstern wrote: and he was against the prplhz lynch. [citation needed] | ||
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On January 23 2013 20:55 Toadesstern wrote: On top of that the guy I masoned today basicly called me confirmed townie as well for a damn good reason I'm not willing to share, at least not today. well this is interesting there is absolutely no way for anyone to confirm you as town, period. you are sheriff, so you cannot get DT'd. anything anyone says to "confirm" you is hearsay at best. | ||
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On January 23 2013 23:29 FiveTouch wrote: With annul, there's a fair chance he's mafia. He refuses to contribute other than to speculate pointlessly, and repeatedly, on setup, or to make useless asides. It's made worse by the fact I explained to him about his play and he doesn't care. Nonetheless, there's something that makes me feel quite uncomfortable about him. I don't know how to express is very well. In any case, if he continues to play in a mafia-oriented fashion, we should lynch him as part of our double-lynch tomorrow. who didnt see this coming please dont smurf next time, or if you do, tell me its you, so i can /out before the game. | ||
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On January 23 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote: Annul sorry this is important for a guy like me who doesnt have context. You and Palmar seem to have a history? Whats the cause for the /out? the context is palmar has yet to play a game with me where he did not push for my lynch. he has done so in games where i have been green, where i have been red, and where i have been blue. it doesn't matter -- there literally has not been a single game i have played with him in it where he did not push for my death. in fairness he is much less aggressive with it this game but i sense it is because he figures others are doing the work for him | ||
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since the target seems to be off my back today, it is smart for me to continue to say nothing until the time comes again. | ||
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you all realize that "mafia jack mason" is a perfectly valid reply to a DT check right? because as OP says, mafias get to choose their power roles AND a number of masons that go on top of any power roles they get. for however hard i tunneled vivax, a DT claim is one of the most powerful moves in the game, and it needs to be believed the day it comes out (if it isnt lylo). gonzaw is the only kill we make today. | ||
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On January 25 2013 02:04 debears wrote: Jack You can act as a Medic, Veteran, Mason, and Vigilante... but not all at once and not more than once. You may two of these four powers during the game: Protect, Mason, and Shoot. You may use the same power twice. Note that your Veteran life is not passive like that of a true Veteran's; you must choose when to activate it, and if it isn't used (as in, you aren't hit that night) it goes away. I don't think it's possible for a jack to vig and mason in the same night ffs read the OP | ||
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"I'd say we lynch the (possible) red check the other DT has once I mason him tomorrow." we know he mason sandroba cycle 1. sandroba was miller. no info he could have received from sandroba is relevant to him knowing about another DT. now, day 2, the only way toad can know of a DT is by masoning another mason (or a jack who used mason day 1). toad is not masoned with this DT today because as he says, "once i mason him tomorrow" means he cannot be with him today under the rules. assume toad is masoning another mason today. the only way that he can know about this DT is if the person toad is talking to today masoned the DT on day 1, that DT claimed to the person toad is talking to today, and then the person toad is talking to today told toad about that DT's identity. next, toad also says: "see the thing is I know a bunch of powerroles, including a DT." the only possible way for this to work is if by "a bunch" he actually means "one other" -- the second mason he is talking to today. he doesn't -- CAN'T -- know "a bunch" of power roles. there is no logical way for this to occur under the rules. so we come down to a few choices: A. toad is red. B. whoever toad is talking to today is red and feeding toad lies. C. whoever toad is talking to today is really, really bad at this game AND whoever talked on day 1 to the person toad is talking to today is also really, really bad at this game for claiming DT to a mason when mafia masons exist in the game. D. whoever toad is talking to today is really, really bad at this game AND whoever talked on day 1 to the person toad is talking to today lied about being DT for some reason. which is more likely? | ||
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how many power roles do you know that the rest of the game does not know? | ||
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second, i think i figured out what is going on. picture coming soon. | ||
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this is the max toad can "know." toad can "know" of five other roles (MAYBE six if on day 1 "mason B" masoned a "mason C" who day 1 masoned a power role... and so on and so on). however, what does toad KNOW? nothing. if "mason B" is actually mafia, all information from that part of the chain is bullshit, and mason A knows no better, and is innocently but incorrectly feeding toad bad intel. | ||
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On January 25 2013 02:50 Toadesstern wrote: first is wrong. Here's the explanation for the 6th time: He claimed in the fucking thread. What don't you understand about it? I'm not getting any information from anyone because the guy CLAIMED IN THE THREAD. THEN PROVIDE ME WITH A QUOTE OF THIS | ||
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so, did you pick up on a breadcrumb or a claim? | ||
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you say "the info i have is based on an in-thread claim" but you evade and completely refuse to say what you are talking about. if someone CLAIMED in thread, it makes no sense to hide this, since they claimed it. which must mean that by "claim" you really mean "they breadcrumbed and i found it." but if you just said THAT, it would be completely believable and nobody would question it because after all that IS the point of a breadcrumb anyway: subtlety under the radar. but you did not say this. instead you try to inflate your position in the supposed town circle and when i caught you in a logical hole, you flounder and flounder. you STILL will not tell me what it is you (think you) actually have (e.g. "what the day 2 mason target told you HE had.") | ||
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On January 25 2013 06:27 austinmcc wrote: annul, you looked more towny in my eyes for continuing to ask anyone masoned by Gonzaw to come forward. Then I look and your vote is on Gonzaw... i went to sleep after i asked that question. you can check #tlmafia logs for when i log on and log off. it is always consistent with when i stop and start paying attention to mafia games. at this point in the game i am still on page 114 catching up so perhaps this post will be irrelevant when i get caught up. | ||
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On January 25 2013 12:35 debears wrote: 5touch I have to talk to you about said mason and figure out whether he contacted you already or not and why he masoned me I will think of encryption encryption is illegal btw dont do it | ||
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also, if you jail BKE and he is mafia, then mafia get only 1 KP tonight. therefore, one medic on vivax would be enough: mafia cannot stack shots on him since they only have one shot. unless mafia RB works on your sheriff ability... i have no idea if it does. | ||
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3/4 are mafia calling it now | ||
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On January 25 2013 12:20 debears wrote: I have been masoned. Apparently 24 hours ago Thanks BC! who masoned debears? can anyone actually corroborate this? | ||
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who are your top three scum reads pl0x | ||
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On January 26 2013 02:39 DearestSnot wrote: Annul, what Toad said. It'd help immensely to know what we're thinking if you read our posts. okay, so you both have top 3 of: Chez, BKE mkfuba fivetouch? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + and this is what will happen to chezinu. + Show Spoiler + therefore, i suggest we vote BKE and someone else. let us not waste a day finding #5. save chez for later. | ||
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my bomb is on chez. if he gets lynched, i lose the bomb. therefore, it is better to spend our time trying to find the 5th mafia and leaving him up. he will not be contributing to KP (since BKE is sure to flip red... they will have 1 KP from now until the end of the game regardless) so his presence here is moot. however, hatter with an active bomb is a huge endgame advantage for us if it gets to that point. furthermore, i can move my bomb tonight onto someone random if we can't agree on a lynch for day 4 and we can pop chez tomorrow no problem. | ||
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On January 26 2013 10:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Dearestsnot the detective has been killed | ||
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i claimed so that we guarantee a won endgame. we are so ridiculously in the lead right now that we do not have to go all in and try to win right now. assume the 1% happens and we are wrong: with an active hatter and town mayor in the game, mafia cannot win at endgame with 2 living mafia. period. therefore, it is smart REGARDLESS of anything else in the game (assuming FT is town.....) to leave my bomb active and go after other people. we have like what 7 cycles to figure shit out? multiple DTs? don't be dumb and throw away victory percentages when it's not needed to do so. chezinu living right now is entirely irrelevant. mafia get 1 KP from now on until the end of the game anyway. also....... | ||
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On January 22 2013 01:17 annul wrote: axle, do me a favor any time you post, just put a word cap on it. literally any time you decide to post, please include a tl;dr of every main idea you are writing about. every time you post you come in with this explosion of who the fuck knows what and i am not in the mood to sift through the crazy just to see if there is anything worthwhile. it is perfectly possible to be succinct and communicate multiple ideas in different words. | ||
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does this mean that medics get notified IF AND ONLY IF 1. they chose a target AND 2. their target would have died AND 3. the medic's protection prevented that death? | ||
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On January 27 2013 07:47 Stutters695 wrote: Annul what happens to your bomb with a chez lynch? Never played with the bomber before. i lose my bomb for good, and i am essentially now a green | ||
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On January 27 2013 10:27 Stutters695 wrote: Annul forgive me if this has been asked and I missed it, but why did you keep your bomb on Chezinu through n2? He was a pretty clear top candidate as soon as the d2 flip happened. Wouldn't it have made sense to move it to one of the other scummy people who probably wouldn't be lynched? if i died, i wanted to take a mafia with me. | ||
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On January 27 2013 11:17 Vivax wrote: grush, Chez, Toad, gonzaw, the Chez guy I don't want to reveal yet and an "unknown" mason... well, outside of "grush, Chez, Toad, gonzaw" i can confirm a fifth. whether my fifth is your #5/6 i dunno. | ||
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mocsta is another mason. he is masoning me today. he masons me and tells me, among other things, that he thinks i am "60% likely" to be scum. so i laughed at him and told him i was done talking to him. the bottom line is this: we have something like 6 masons in the game so far? at least this is what people are claiming? we know of ONE mafia mason. it makes no sense for there to be 5 town masons in the game and only 1 mafia mason. therefore, at least one of the remaining three reds are also mason. we should look at all masons in the game because among them is bound to be another red player. | ||
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ANNUL: i do not think he is town. i am mad hatter and my bomb is on him. if he gets lynched, i lose the bomb. therefore, it is better to spend our time trying to find the 5th mafia and leaving him up. he will not be contributing to KP (since BKE is sure to flip red... they will have 1 KP from now until the end of the game regardless) so his presence here is moot. however, hatter with an active bomb is a huge endgame advantage for us if it gets to that point. furthermore, i can move my bomb tonight onto someone random if we can't agree on a lynch for day 4 and we can pop chez tomorrow no problem. MOCSTA: Wow interesting development. can u pls confirm the lack of activity at the start of the game? It felt like more than just lasertag MOCSTA (couple hours later): I am still waiting a response ANNUL: no, i actually tell the truth when i play this game. it was a laser tag tournament and then i went to sleep. MOCSTA: Hi sorry if u thought i implied u lied. I wasnt. Irl is irl. Im actually asking why u continuef to be absent post day1. If absent is too strong a word. Then take minimal contributor. As a vet i would have thought u would be up to speed quickly ANNUL: as you saw, at the start of day 2 they were still on my ass. i had to take defensive maneuvers to ensure i lived day 2. as you can see, it worked. now it is day 3, my power is online, and i am active once more. =] MOCSTA: Y do u want a list of masons ANNUL: there have been a bunch of masons claimed, and at least one of them is a mafia mason. it makes no sense for there to be SIX (or more!) masons and mafia to only have one of them. MOCSTA: K.. i have information on masons.. vivax doesnt. give me your list first pls ANNUL: i have no list. you are the first mason i can confirm. toad is almost certainly mason as well. grush claimed mason. and gonzaw was a mason. so i have four claimed/confirmed masons i am aware of. MOCSTA: I am still developing trust between us. I dont like when ppl claim as u have in general. It makes me uneasy. To hand an olive branch. I will share that i masonrd Chez day1 and ft day2. I know more masons than this though... ANNUL: what percentage chance (0% = guaranteed town, 100% = guaranteed mafia) do you think i am mafia? MOCSTA: Before the hatter i wsd 40%...now 50 to 60.... Next q ANNUL: then we have no further need to converse. MOCSTA: Interesting approach. Very Similar to chezinu. Noted. 50 doesnt exist anymore. MOCSTA: Oohh mr mafia man, im so bored, why dost you not enchant me with your mad hattery wisdom? (end of logs) | ||
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i would not be surprised if you were vivax's red check, but alas, nothing said here today matters whatsoever because in the end, the fifth and final red will be revealed anyway... barring a LUCKY framer n2. | ||
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and what "knowledge" is this? he had no "knowledge" of you night 1 because nobody can have "knowledge" of anyone night 1. any DT checks etc would not be returned until dawn of day 2 anyway. so, what are you implying? hax? did he find BC/kurumi's spreadsheet? or maybe your arguments are fabrications? | ||
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##vote BKE + mocsta | ||
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i made my move not for midgame power but for endgame domination. if it gets to endgame, having someone mafia CANNOT kill at night is a fucking huge advantage. but for this to be true, my bomb needs to remain active. | ||
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vivax checked mocsta? that is his red check? i am going to sleep VERY soon so like is this the vote? BKE and moc? | ||
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can you quote that for me please, i must have missed that | ||
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On January 28 2013 10:35 yamato77 wrote: I know of 4 masons ... all modconfirmed town. [citation needed] | ||
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for all the doubters, i have been breadcrumbing my role from day 1 before anyone was even suspicious of me. | ||
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On January 28 2013 10:47 yamato77 wrote: They're not modconfirmed, I suppose, but they are all very likely town. You, on the other hand, are very likely mafia. [citation needed] | ||
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toad you jailed BKE yesterday right? | ||
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+ Show Spoiler + over the span of two nights | ||
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On January 28 2013 11:01 debears wrote: Annul Why would you say that BKE's bomb didn't go off after being lynched? because apparently he claimed he never had a bomb on someone | ||
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also, this is the first time ive ever seen hatters with only 1 bomb. we usually get 2. so the existence of two hatters is not so unlikely, especially since my power is halved what it usually is. the only thing we know is that we have X number of claimed masons in the game and mafia is given X-Y masons to distribute. we have seen 2 mafia masons so far. with 6 (?) claimed masons, is it likely for it to be a 3/3 split? or is 4/2 town split the more likely scenario (given the already unorthodox way the game is structured?) | ||
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but of course, these types of discussions are moot until we see the day 4 post. | ||
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On January 28 2013 16:07 Toadesstern wrote: See that's why we lynched both and not BKE + the 5th read... It was possible to screw up and we did screw up. This way mafia is still at 1 KP permanently because we can only screw up once :p Anyways that meanas mafia doublestacked Bugs. That also means there's 2 people we have to look out for. I don't like Annuls question about mad hatters and wether their bomb would explode when lynched to be honest. Not that I know the answer, but I would know the answer because I would have asked the host about that way earlier if I were a madhatter. Should have voted for doublelynch so we can go after 2 people. That way we again would have made sure that we at least hit one guy... ALSO: I'm probably not going to tell you what to do with your medic protection tonight. i was never in danger of getting lynched. it was never relevant to me. | ||
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On January 29 2013 00:14 FiveTouch wrote: annul, who do you think is mafia right now? i am not sure. my gut tells me yamato, but on balance, i doubt the mason split is 3/3. i think its much more likely that it is 4/2 town and so the claimed masons are probably all towns. i think oats is town. i think you are town. the only remaining targets then are stutters, fuba, adam/clarity, axle, austin, and debears. right? it's probably someone in that list there. | ||
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On January 29 2013 01:40 FiveTouch wrote: Why would you claim? Fuck me. This tells us and gives us nothing. | ||
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On January 29 2013 10:21 FiveTouch wrote: This desperately needs answering, by the way. On January 27 2013 11:03 annul wrote: if i died, i wanted to take a mafia with me. | ||
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On January 29 2013 19:29 Oatsmaster wrote: why? he only has three jails. if he used it last night, we know he has no jail left. Are you kidding me. Giving scum info=bad. Toad, how big of a mason cycle are you in? how is this giving scum info its in the OP | ||
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On January 29 2013 21:03 FiveTouch wrote: Why on earth would you die? How would you die? Why would you put your bomb on someone who is going to die already? how i'd die: through NKs why i'd die: who knows wtf the mafia is doing? explanation for the bombing (for the third time): On January 29 2013 18:49 annul wrote: and i thought i could convince the town that the logic was sound to get off of chez (assuming BKE was red... which we ALL did, nearly unanimously). my persuasive skills are bad apparently. | ||
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On January 29 2013 22:54 FiveTouch wrote: So effectively your argument is that in the miniscule eventuality you get killed on Night 2, you were going to blow up a mafia that was certainly going to die anyway the next day. Right? do you have an inability to read or something? for the FOURTH time, On January 29 2013 18:49 annul wrote: i thought i could convince the town {...} to get off of chez. | ||
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i did not use my role in a bad way. my role usage is perfectly fine. if i have ANY bad marks on my play, it's not recognizing that the BKE got lynched without a single defender... it was way too easy and i should have picked up on the fact that he had not even one player at his back for the lynch, and thus may not be mafia. but this bad mark is on the entire town, not just me. assuming BKE was mafia, like 100% of the players here did (i may have missed a defender, but i doubt it), then there is literally no reason at all to have killed chez yesterday. none. mafia KP remains at 1 and chez does not hold any town powers, he isn't trusted, he's essentially already dead, just with a voice and one vote. that's it. | ||
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there is only one hole in my argument in getting the lynch off of chez and that is the assumption of BKE being red. the implication of "LOL SEE BKE WAS NOT RED THEREFORE YOUR CHEZ PLAN SUCKED LOL YOU'RE MAFIA!!!!!!!!!!" had to be countered, and the way i did it was as you saw. | ||
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On January 30 2013 03:12 FiveTouch wrote: Mocsta also flipped green. he flipped blue | ||
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i still like yamato for reasons i indicated the last time i called him out | ||
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i am revoting axle | ||
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"You also must choose the Godfather, Roleblocker, Jack, and/or Framer from among yourselves." you must choose THE godfather ... among yourselves. grammatically this should ensure only one of each role. very poorly written OP ;\ | ||
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Subject: You have been masoned Date: 1/26/13 10:34 Annul, I have masoned you, normally I wait for BC to confirm before PM'n, but I have to leave for the next 8-12hrs. You said save Chez for tomorrow. Can you please share your thoughts on why you think he is town? (I have been sticking up for him too) What do you make of him immediately accusing Bugs of checking him when framed as well.. | ||
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On February 01 2013 10:19 Stutters695 wrote: If Toad jked annul doesn't that prove he can't be scum? hahahah YES, YES it does. fuck you toad, you are wrong. awesome point stutters | ||
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On February 01 2013 10:38 mkfuba07 wrote: Oh shit I was right!!!! If that were the case why would he say he's going to jail you and then nk someone? It just proved your innocence <.< maybe he slipped? | ||
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On February 01 2013 21:51 FiveTouch wrote: You mean he'd have gotten a RB notification? Indeed. i have no role to use to be blocked. what notification would i receive? none, obviously. | ||
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i also will vote adam because of day 1 shenanigans re: election votes etc. one of these two are red. | ||
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toad has been sheeping you and/or setting up ridiculous WIFOM plays all game long see: the "breadcrumb" no-jail on me. | ||
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so i figured that the failure message would get PMed to me ONLY if i tried to use my ability (which i cant, since i have no bomb) but i guess there is another message too for being jailed outright. oh well. | ||
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On February 02 2013 00:24 Oatsmaster wrote: Circumstances like having your scum buddies lynched almost perfectly? no, like not wanting to play and almost intentionally ruining the game as a result of constant personal insults | ||
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On February 02 2013 00:24 FiveTouch wrote: you've attacked no mafia at all all game fucking bullshit i bombed chez, i attacked axle | ||
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