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On January 28 2013 11:02 FiveTouch wrote:
debears, like I already stated, you don't really count masons as full blues like you would in for example C9++ setups, because of the existence of mafia masons.
Plus 20-5 is the usual balance, so with 17-5 town probably would have been given more blues. I kinda expect there to be at least another miller, too. Effectivel 17-5 vs 20-5 is one less mislynch mafia need, which is quite huge.
I guess so
What's your read on annul right now, considering his "bomb" on Chez and his play this game?
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No Mocsta, that question makes no sense cause bugs is already dead.
It is an absolutely useless question, which makes me wonder why you are defending it so hard.
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people trying to analyze this game from a "normal" standpoint are wrong. it's usually a 4 town to 1 mafia ratio. this is the "balance." 20 town, 5 mafia is the norm. however, we had 17 town, 5 mafia this game. this is the functional equivalent of starting the game on day 2 while mislynching the first day and having 2 KPs used on townies in the first night. to counteract this, we get more/better blues.
also, this is the first time ive ever seen hatters with only 1 bomb. we usually get 2. so the existence of two hatters is not so unlikely, especially since my power is halved what it usually is.
the only thing we know is that we have X number of claimed masons in the game and mafia is given X-Y masons to distribute. we have seen 2 mafia masons so far. with 6 (?) claimed masons, is it likely for it to be a 3/3 split? or is 4/2 town split the more likely scenario (given the already unorthodox way the game is structured?)
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Marshall Islands1474 Posts
thanks for repeating me annul, top job
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FT I want to ask you why you think Annul might be town at this stage.
I just don't see it.
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you know, i typed that post out before seeing yours. we just had the same idea at the same time. i didn't "repeat" you per se.
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ok annul, I'm just a little grumpy.
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On January 28 2013 11:08 Oatsmaster wrote:
No Mocsta, that question makes no sense cause bugs is already dead.
It is an absolutely useless question, which makes me wonder why you are defending it so hard.
it might be useless to u
that doesnt make it useless
we all have our own heuristics
and i havent defended it
u have asked for continual clarification without directing what u want clarified.
u ask shit questions, u get shit answers
its not my problem u dont like what im saying.. but that certainly does not make it useless
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No its objectively useless now that scum has 1 KP.
And this question and shitflinging has run its course.
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If we aren't lynching Annul/Vivax tomorrow, who are we lynching?
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We need to stop gaming the setup and look for mafia the normal way, I think.
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fuba i would think is bumped to the top of the list.
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you would be a good choice. you were heavily against the prplhz lynch day 1 for no in-game reason. you have been particularly aggressive the ENTIRE game to anyone and everyone. you have made very few quality contributions to the game and instead have decided to spend your entire play shouting objections and "challenging" players' moves from the back, instead of putting your own nuts on the line. all this is pretty much red style play.
but of course, these types of discussions are moot until we see the day 4 post.
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in b4 he retorts with an ultra-hostile, borderline ad hominem attack against me and tunnels me for the next full cycle
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On January 28 2013 11:29 FiveTouch wrote:
We need to stop gaming the setup and look for mafia the normal way, I think.
It's worth getting out of the way. If we happened to confirm/catch someone that'd be huge, wrist case we've just wasted an hour but we still have plenty of time today. As I said before I'm still really focused on vivax.
Vivax - who did you check night 2 and did they return red or green? You don't have to say the role unless it hit scum.
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Stutters. he said he checked bugs (who died that night)
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Already stated in thread, Stutters. I don't know why you haven't read the thread to be honest.
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On January 28 2013 11:32 annul wrote:
in b4 he retorts with an ultra-hostile, borderline ad hominem attack against me and tunnels me for the next full cycle
Some of your criticisms of my play are somewhat valid but none of it makes me mafia.
There's a reason I've never had a vote on me that wasn't from Vivax, and it's because anyone who has played with me before knows I play this way as town, and can see that I have contributed my thoughts to the game, despite being wrong.
So no, I'm not mafia, I'm not attacking you, and I'm not going to tunnel anyone.
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On January 28 2013 09:24 Mocsta wrote:Adam.. Im still waiting fora response Show nested quote +On January 27 2013 16:16 Mocsta wrote:
Adam.. just a general question to figure out your mind set now that you have settled in.
You called me town before, lets reverse the situation.
You say "Mocsta felt town, but now Im leaning scum"
I say to you "well Adam... we have nothing left to discuss"
what is your read on the situation? (This now has nothing to do with Annul, i want your insight)
I didn't bother to answer this the first time, mainly because the only answer is an inconclusive answer. But if you insist..
Either alignment could decide you were not worth talking to after you back-flip a read on them.
Id think mafia would be more likely to try to talk you out of your new read, town would be more likely to tell you to bug off and stop wasting their time, but either is entirely possible from both sides, dependent on the personality of the player.
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