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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
Boson has a pathetic excuse for as to how Jay and I are scum together. And Yamato hasn't commented on this. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
Boson, Yamato, Mr. CC, and DP think you're scum. If I voted for you, like you're voting for me, you would die, and I would live. As scum, why wouldn't I be pushing for your lynch, especially when making sure you don't get lynched increases my own chance of getting lynched? It doesn't make any sense. Please reconsider your read on me. <3 | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 11 2013 08:57 Z-BosoN wrote: Dude, what is wrong about wanting feedback from a confirmed townie? I have my own opinions and wanting to discuss them and hear your thoughts is not "seeking approval". Read my scum filter in Hero, where I "seeked approval" from marv and see the difference of what I understand to be your point. Im going to read over these last few pages later when I get back, but as it seems, it looks a hell of a lot like Jay decided to bus. mr.Z was townie to him all game along, and suddenly it's his strongest scumread. I don't see yamato being scum really, so that's what's left. I will reevaluate tomorrow though, when I'm better informed. Heading off for reals now Thats utter bullshit. He has not been a town read to me for most of the game. Its just been this last part of the game. That i have begin to had a town read on him. DON'T TRY TO TWIST MY POSTS TO SET UP UP FOR A MISLYNCH. Here i call Zentor scummy for calling people confirmed town. And again for not caring who he wanted to lynch. On January 06 2013 12:09 jaybrundage wrote: Your wrong no one is a confirmed town. Don't start throwing the term around either. Thats honeslty pretty damn scummy. Plz who do you wanna lynch today not careing who gets lynch is also scummy Again me wanting to lynch Zenter cause he mislynched and didnt really care again no town read. On January 07 2013 10:48 jaybrundage wrote: Im most annoyed that Zentor didn't really care about who he was mislynching. Frustrating imo. We had unlimited amounts of time to get scum. But instead cause hes impatient he wants to push things along and lynch a townie. I almost wanna policy lynch him cause i hate his meta so much It was only around day 2 that I began to see Zentor as a town read. So dont spout crap. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 11 2013 09:18 MrZentor wrote: Also, jay, you know you're town. Boson, Yamato, Mr. CC, and DP think you're scum. If I voted for you, like you're voting for me, you would die, and I would live. As scum, why wouldn't I be pushing for your lynch, especially when making sure you don't get lynched increases my own chance of getting lynched? It doesn't make any sense. Please reconsider your read on me. <3 hmmmm. So you propose a Z-Boson, Yamato scum team eh... I dont know... You have done some realllllly scummy things. Yamato hasn't posted who he would vote for yet. And i dont think DP has either. Isn't it 4 to lynch tho tmw? | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On January 11 2013 09:29 jaybrundage wrote: hmmmm. So you propose a Z-Boson, Yamato scum team eh... I dont know... You have done some realllllly scummy things. Yamato hasn't posted who he would vote for yet. And i dont think DP has either. Isn't it 4 to lynch tho tmw? Your definition of what is scummy is wrong, like I said in mah post. <3 And yes, it's four to lynch. On January 10 2013 11:21 DarthPunk wrote: Fuck it. Yamato has to be town So I am calling 2 of ZB, Mr Z, Jay. From Yamato Jay/MrZ - I touched upon this earlier, it seems the most likely scum team to me given their play this game. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
Two of the four MrZ, Jay, Yamato, and Z-Boson are scum. If you are scum, you are going to vote for the two townspeople, because if you say you will vote for your scum buddy and another townsperson, and people want to lynch your scum buddy, you will be forced to bus him. If you don't vote for him, it will be obvious that you were scum just bluffing that you would vote for your scum buddy. Because the two scum would vote for the two townpeople, they would vote for the same people. Now look at who these people have last said they think is mafia. Boson thinks Jay/MrZ Yamato thinks Jay/MrZ Jay thinks MrZ/Boson MrZ knows Yamato/Z-Boson Note that Boson and Yamato are the only people accusing the same people, just like scum would do. (Although they haven't actually voted yet, by accusing these people, they are setting themselves up to vote for one of those people.) | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
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yamato77
11589 Posts
Furthermore, the idea that I have been serious and not joking the entire game is obviously true. You caught me, I take mafia seriously. How this is indicative of me being scum I have yet to make the connection. I rarely joke, even as town, and am often highly emotionally strained and angry, especially in games where I am under suspicion such as my very first game on this forum, or in Parallel World Mafia. Being carefree may be a town tell, but not being carefree is almost assuredly not a scum tell. The rest of your case is pretty dumb. You're calling me scum for doing the exact things you're not, which is playing in town's best interest. How on earth is playing pro-town supposed to prove I'm scum? It's also highly convenient that this logic also exonerates you in that it implies the reverse, that people who are obviously not pro-town are somehow town. This is a subtle, smooth way to assert your own towniness while also shitting on me. Ultimately, though, your mind is obviously not on proving that I'm scum, but in implanting the idea that your behavior this game is acceptable, even though you've been anti-town for quite some time. Is it a coincidence that you've been on both wagons this game? Is it a coincidence that you have been on both of these wagons with very little justification for your votes? Why would a town player play like this? Why would a town player hold such valuable information such as the reasons for his reads for almost the entire game, only to post them when it becomes evident that not doing so will mean his head? You say a scum's objective is survival, well what objective do you think I see in this? You've been silent about this type of thing almost the whole game. Only when forced to do so have you been forthcoming with information. Isn't it in scum's best interest to withhold information from town? Isn't it easier to bullshit your reads when you don't post anything but "X is town/scum?" Isn't it easy to appear to be right with your reads if you give more town reads than scumreads? Isn't it easy to pick on people that confirmed townies have picked on? Honestly I don't see a scum team that doesn't include you. Jay/Z was likely but is becoming less probable. With the posting of this case though, you fail to explain your scum read on Z-Bo at all. It seems he's only scum because of some process of elimination. No, what you're doing here is considering who you think you can get mislynched tomorrow, because that wins you the game. You've never really tried to get Z-Bo lynched this entire game, you've focused on getting me lynched, a townie. It's sure easy to bus your partner if he's never had any votes on him, isn't it? The same could be said for Z-bo, in that you've never really been in any danger of getting lynched until now, and right now no one is getting lynched. Could definitely see Z/Z scum team as a possibility. It sounds silly on its face, like I said before, but it's all WIFOM at some point. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
And if you think a Z/Z scum team is probable, then can we agree to lynch him tomorrow? After all, he's a scum read to both of us. And it's not like your pretending to be okay with voting him, just so you keep tunneling me, right? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 11 2013 09:58 MrZentor wrote: You blame me for being on both wagons, but you hammered Xatalos. And if you think a Z/Z scum team is probable, then can we agree to lynch him tomorrow? After all, he's a scum read to both of us. And it's not like your pretending to be okay with voting him, just so you keep tunneling me, right? I would lynch either of you. | ||
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
I doubt you would lynch Z-Boson. And because you think we're both scum, what would be wrong with killing Z-Boson instead of me first? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 11 2013 10:04 MrZentor wrote: Okay, well I think you're bluffing. I doubt you would lynch Z-Boson. And because you think we're both scum, what would be wrong with killing Z-Boson instead of me first? Why should I believe that you're not bluffing? As I said, you can talk all the shit you want but your focus, even right now, is pushing town to lynch me. You're just using this as a way to try to "trap" me. You're better scum than I thought, Zentor. | ||
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Mr. Cheesecake
United States3756 Posts
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MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
On January 11 2013 10:07 yamato77 wrote: Why should I believe that you're not bluffing? As I said, you can talk all the shit you want but your focus, even right now, is pushing town to lynch me. You're just using this as a way to try to "trap" me. You're better scum than I thought, Zentor. Okay, so you think I might be bluffing, and I think you might be bluffing. So why don't we both agree to kill Z-Boson tomorrow? And we'll see once and for all who's bluffing. We'll see who's Boson's scum partner. | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On January 11 2013 10:09 MrZentor wrote: Okay, so you think I might be bluffing, and I think you might be bluffing. So why don't we both agree to kill Z-Boson tomorrow? And we'll see once and for all who's bluffing. We'll see who's Boson's scum partner. How is lynching Boson going to help anything? He flips town, and you win because it was jay/mrz scum team. He flips scum, and then we both are left thinking the other is scum and bussed, and it does nothing to prove anything. Like I said I have no problem lynching him but you're implying that you know the alignment of him/jay which is something that is not confirmed by any means. Your certainty about this matter is unsettling. | ||
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